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[00:03] <VK5QI> SA6BSS-Mike: ahh
[00:03] <VK5QI> i guess i could just program my car to have a balloon symbol :P
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[06:11] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IS0HME-2 after 036 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IS0HME-2
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[06:26] <SA6BSS-Mike> PE2BZ: Good luck on the flight ! what balloon did you use? looks like a washed Grabo/cattex
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[06:35] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PE2BZ-4 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PE2BZ-4
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[07:47] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03W5KUB-112 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W5KUB-112
[07:53] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SP6QKM-4FSK - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP6QKM-4FSK
[08:13] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SP6TKN-4FSK - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP6TKN-4FSK
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[08:32] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP6QKM-12 after 03a month silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP6QKM-12
[08:40] <PE2BZ> Gm Mike, ¨regular¨ chinese single foil this time. 3 g extra weight, testing a clip which did not loose any lift over night after prefilling the balloon.
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[09:04] <Guest36> Hey
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[09:40] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SA6BSS-8 after 039 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SA6BSS-8
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[11:08] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03WA0PAC-4H-1 after 0313 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WA0PAC-4H-1
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[12:57] <SpacenearUS> New position from 034FSKTEST-V2 after 0316 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=4FSKTEST-V2
[13:10] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03HORUS-V2 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HORUS-V2
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[13:20] <cmeister2> (newb here): just out of interest - how much would it cost to send a balloon to the edge of space with cameras? I'm looking into doing something like that for a video and I'd like to get an idea of costs.
[13:25] <PE2BZ> Guestimated 200 Euro all in. But you have to be your own receiver station and able to recover the camera I guess.
[13:25] <PE2BZ> ¨edge of space¨ is anything between 22 and 27 km for me.
[13:25] <SA6BSS-Mike> 200 I would say for gas + balloon
[13:26] <SA6BSS-Mike> buy a pi in the sky tracker , waht does they cost, 200?
[13:26] <SA6BSS-Mike> or recover a rs41 for free
[13:26] <SA6BSS-Mike> and reuse
[13:27] <SA6BSS-Mike> + cameras , and rx setup - radio antenna
[13:27] <PE2BZ> Assumed he don´t want to transmit the images during flight. 6 pack of 200 g Hwoyee about 40 UK pound,
[13:27] <PE2BZ> just ordered 0.8 m3 HE for 65 Euro.
[13:28] <SA6BSS-Mike> roger
[13:28] <PE2BZ> adding parachute (re-used) and RS-41, some 10 Euro for Lithium batteries for camera / tracker
[13:28] <SA6BSS-Mike> it comes down to the yotal weigh, what ballon to use and how much gas will it need
[13:29] <PE2BZ> Mike, can I have your numbers for PSI and free lift for the Yokohama balloon ? Now prestretching :-)
[13:29] <SA6BSS-Mike> http://www.randomengineering.co.uk/Random_Aerospace/Welcome.html here you get balloons if your in Europe
[13:30] <SA6BSS-Mike> yep...
[13:31] <SA6BSS-Mike> Stefan did 0,300 then hairdryer, then up to 0,350 for maybe 10 min and deflate
[13:32] <SA6BSS-Mike> I have just got them up to 0,400 shortly and deflated
[13:32] <SA6BSS-Mike> they fly so long so its long between tests :)
[13:33] <PE2BZ> I did read on ( UKHAS ?) someone prestretched for 0.5 PSI, which I found a very large number.
[13:33] <PE2BZ> Hairdryer ? It´s 30 degrees up here....
[13:33] <SA6BSS-Mike> yeah , and some bursted at 0,350
[13:34] <cmeister2> no images during flight, just onboard recorded video. are there people about who do this as a paid-for service? i.e. pay for the cost of helium + time + equipment cost
[13:34] <SA6BSS-Mike> hehe, they are temperature sensetive , moistur aslo it seems
[13:34] <PE2BZ> and free lift ? You mentioned last time to get a bit higher, but I can´t find the history.
[13:34] <SA6BSS-Mike> yep , use 8.5 gram fl
[13:34] <PE2BZ> cmeister2, where are you from ?
[13:34] <cmeister2> UK
[13:34] <SA6BSS-Mike> cmeister2: where are you from?
[13:35] <PE2BZ> Cough cough. there is cough cough a commerical company over there.
[13:35] <SA6BSS-Mike> waht was the name of the group that laungherd comerseally?
[13:35] <PE2BZ> Take a look at sent into space
[13:35] <PE2BZ> SITS
[13:35] <SA6BSS-Mike> Yes
[13:35] <SA6BSS-Mike> thats irt
[13:35] <SA6BSS-Mike> it
[13:36] <cmeister2> ah, nice, thanks
[13:36] <PE2BZ> Let me know what they charge you :-)
[13:36] <cmeister2> hah
[13:37] <PE2BZ> But they did send watches, beer and so on upto the sky
[13:38] <PE2BZ> Another possibility is NASA ;-)
[13:38] <PE2BZ> How much does it cost to send something to space?
[13:38] <PE2BZ> Today, it costs $10,000 to put a pound of payload in Earth orbit. NASA's goal is to reduce the cost of getting to space to hundreds of dollars per pound within 25 years and tens of dollars per pound within 40 years.
[13:38] <PE2BZ> Which does not even appear to be that expensive...
[13:41] <cmeister2> if they write back I'll let you know what they're charging. I'd like to be closer to the £200 mark than $10000 :D
[13:41] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KC3GMG-1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KC3GMG-1
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[13:59] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DG2FS-1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DG2FS-1
[14:30] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03AB5SS-91 after 0318 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=AB5SS-91
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[16:53] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD2QII-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD2QII-11
[17:09] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SN75ZOT-V2 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SN75ZOT-V2
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[18:31] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP6TKN-4FSK after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP6TKN-4FSK
[18:33] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP6HD-4FSK after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP6HD-4FSK
[18:39] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BSS43 after 0312 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BSS43
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[20:22] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03AETHER - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=AETHER
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[20:53] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP6HD-12 after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP6HD-12
[20:59] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03NOB14 after 0314 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=NOB14
[20:59] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SP6TKN-12 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP6TKN-12
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[22:13] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03LY2BAW-4FSK - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=LY2BAW-4FSK
[22:38] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03VK3ZWI-18 after 0314 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VK3ZWI-18
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