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[03:08] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SA6BSS-8 after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SA6BSS-8
[03:32] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03K5WH-88 after 0313 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=K5WH-88
[06:06] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PA3DJR-27 after 0315 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PA3DJR-27
[06:32] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VK5EI_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VK5EI_chase
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[10:15] <ly2en> NOTAM for thursday approved
[11:07] <SpacenearUS> New position from 034FSKTEST-V2 after 034 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=4FSKTEST-V2
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[11:39] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VK5EI_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VK5EI_chase
[12:16] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VK5CBM-9_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VK5CBM-9_chase
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[13:02] <SpacenearUS> New position from 034FSKTEST after 0317 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=4FSKTEST
[13:28] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PE2BZ-4FSK - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PE2BZ-4FSK
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[14:09] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03K5WH-88 after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=K5WH-88
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[14:33] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KO4DTP-6 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KO4DTP-6
[14:52] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KO4DTP-7 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KO4DTP-7
[15:15] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03LauHPS_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=LauHPS_chase
[15:23] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SSTAR0480 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SSTAR0480
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[16:35] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03N6CVO-15 after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N6CVO-15
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[16:54] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Stratobox3_0-TBeam-test - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Stratobox3_0-TBeam-test
[17:00] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Stratobox3_0-TBeam-test2 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Stratobox3_0-TBeam-test2
[17:03] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Stratobox3_0-TBeam-test3 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Stratobox3_0-TBeam-test3
[17:13] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Stratobox3_0-TBeam-test4 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Stratobox3_0-TBeam-test4
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[17:40] <PE2BZ> la4yua, I am here too :-)
[17:40] <la4yua> ahh good
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[17:41] <la4yua> .. have just been google most of the day to figger out what and how
[17:41] <PE2BZ> wx balloons don´t appear to transmit on 144.800 Mhz , some aprs balloons do, like SA6BSS-7 and SA6BSS-8 which where over Scandinavia last day(s)
[17:42] <PE2BZ> wx balloons between 400 and 406 Mhz are indeed more common.
[17:42] <la4yua> i received a germany balone on aprs 144.. i heard it like 3 hours.. before i found out what it was.. my aprs radio didnt decode it :(
[17:43] <la4yua> forgotten the call by now
[17:43] <la4yua> Dxxxxx -11
[17:43] <la4yua> it was not packet 1200
[17:43] <PE2BZ> DO3GU-5
[17:43] <la4yua> 11 last suff
[17:44] <la4yua> it moved up the coust of norway 3 days ago
[17:44] <PE2BZ> yes, but it was packet 1200, but with a LoRa radio module as TX, which was about 6 kHz up. So I tuned the websdr to 144.808 Mhz and it decoded nicely.
[17:46] <la4yua> AHH
[17:46] <la4yua> tnx
[17:47] <la4yua> onely one up here which decode it.. la5a station..  now i now :)
[17:47] <PE2BZ> The lora modules are not tcxo controlled so they drift with temperature. Mine are set up in the fridge at -18 degrees :-)
[17:47] <la4yua> sadly we are not allowed in norway to do this
[17:48] <PE2BZ> https://sondehub.org/#!mt=Mapnik&mz=5&qm=3h&mc=65.51296,9.31641
[17:48] <PE2BZ> You know this page ?
[17:48] <PE2BZ> mouseclick on Orland and you see launch time and frequency
[17:48] <la4yua> yeah.. i'm plottet there
[17:49] <PE2BZ> Near Oslo ?
[17:49] <la4yua> orland?
[17:50] <PE2BZ> a launch location on the map near Tr0ndelag
[17:51] <la4yua> found it :)
[17:51] <PE2BZ> by which rules / laws are you not allowed to fly HAB ?
[17:52] <la4yua> ham lisens.. forbidd to send out non man op transmitters
[17:52] <PE2BZ> We have two laws over here. One that allows, and one that forbids balloon launch. I choose the one which fitted me best.
[17:52] <la4yua> hehe
[17:52] <PE2BZ> Also in ISM frequency bands ?
[17:53] <PE2BZ> we (in the NEtherlands) are allowed airborn so I use any band I can find.
[17:53] <la4yua> that i'm not sure.. but in 144 mhz and 430 mhz we are forbidden
[17:53] <la4yua> others we have a alot of papers to fill.. and if it crash into a plain we have to pay for it
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[17:54] <PE2BZ> But the law which forbids says all balloon launches for festivities are forbidden, only balloons for which you can control the altitude are allowed. I can control the altitude by choice of balloon size and rate of ascent / filling.
[17:55] <la4yua> i'm not 100% Sure... have you sent up any?
[17:56] <PE2BZ> https://tracker.habhub.org/#!mt=roadmap&mz=7&qm=1_hour&mc=51.30642,4.52649&f=PE2BZ-4FSK&q=!RS_*;
[17:56] <PE2BZ> This afternoon , and still flying.
[17:56] <PE2BZ> And 13 april, callsign pa3djr on wspr, 10,15,20 and 30 meter band
[17:57] <PE2BZ> and BZ-LORA-6 which should appear near Italy next friday again.
[17:57] <la4yua> Cool :) have you found any on ground?
[17:57] <PE2BZ> I did :-) RS41 from the Bilt, 3 times, and RS92 from the bilt, one time
[17:58] <la4yua> i found lora aprs to dy when i was in google hehe.. not much into this.. normaly most active on 2m meteor scatter and mb
[17:58] <la4yua> ahh cool.. do you have to send them in?
[17:58] <la4yua> or can you keep them?
[17:59] <PE2BZ> The Ozon sondes are rewarded on return, the RS41 radiosondes are not reused by them so we do that ourself, the one flying now (actually hanging on the parachute, burst one minute ago) is a reprogrammed RS41
[18:01] <la4yua> ahh i see.. how much cost one ballon to send up?  in all you need
[18:01] <PE2BZ> I recovered one RS41 which was 2 meter from the waterline, and recovered one which was only 3 mm away from the water. which was frozen :-)
[18:01] <la4yua> i'm to far north to find any hehe
[18:01] <la4yua> my name iss Uno btw
[18:02] <PE2BZ> That completely depends. The first balloon I did successfully 1.5 lap around the world was a 5 Euro foil balloon, about 5 Euro helium, and 30 Euro tracker payload, wspr tracker with solar panels.
[18:02] <PE2BZ> Hi Uno, my name is Ben
[18:03] <PE2BZ> So we now have an Arduino in chat with a Telecom provider :-)
[18:04] <la4yua> cool.. our link of the map where your baloon is.. why do i not see my station there?
[18:04] <la4yua> wrong receiver?
[18:05] <PE2BZ> We also tried to set the High Altitude record for the Netherland, 38900 meter, 1.6 kg baloon, total cost 500 Euro including HE.
[18:05] <PE2BZ> You are not uploading anything with either HorusGui or DL-FLDIGi, those programs show radio receivers for HAB on the map
[18:05] <la4yua> oww-- what happend? came down?
[18:06] <la4yua> DL-FLDIG not for linux?
[18:06] <la4yua> horus gui is?
[18:06] <SA6BSS-Mike1> https://ukhas.org.uk/projects:dl-fldigi
[18:07] <PE2BZ> sure, most latex do come down after burst ;-) but you need 1.6 m3 HE to get only the balloon at float, so 2 m3 at least to get the balloon up with a payload, and the balloon was about 160 Euro.
[18:07] <PE2BZ> Good evening Mike
[18:07] <SA6BSS-Mike1> Hi Ben
[18:07] <SA6BSS-Mike1> what balloon did you use?
[18:07] <la4yua> Tnx for the link :)
[18:08] <SA6BSS-Mike1> 👍
[18:08] <la4yua> google is like a scrap yard.. hopeless from time to time to find what we looking for
[18:08] <PE2BZ> for the 4fsk ? a cheap red one, bought 10 pieces , 100 gram, 65 Euro shipping included. A bit dated, have to handle the neck a bit carefull but fun to watch them take off
[18:09] <SA6BSS-Mike1> horus gui is a decoder for the "new" 4fsk modulation mostly used in the reprogrammed vaisal ws sonder like the rs41
[18:09] <PE2BZ> https://photos.app.goo.gl/8s6hV3gTRx35gGVc8
[18:09] <PE2BZ> to get an idea what is coming down now.
[18:10] <la4yua> cool.. so you have alot of them at home?
[18:11] <PE2BZ> I have the pro I work 2 km from my home, with quite a large parking area at 27 m ASL, and some storage space around the climate control rooms.
[18:12] <PE2BZ> I have mostly foil balloons for floater experiments at home, and mostly latex at work
[18:12] <la4yua> is there any sent up whit a repeater onbord?
[18:12] <PE2BZ> SOmetimes happens, usually in Holland at the balloon hunt weekend.
[18:12] <PE2BZ> https://aprs.fi/#!mt=roadmap&z=8&call=a%2FPA3DJR-27&timerange=86400&tail=86400
[18:13] <PE2BZ> this is reported on APRS map, it´s at about 11.4 km altitude, but transmitting wspr when in daylight. Launched on the 14th of April
[18:14] <la4yua> close to me hehe
[18:15] <PE2BZ> I might fly an LoRa SSDV camera Pi next thursday if I find an easy way to set the focus to infinity. The HE cilinder is still not empty but has to be changed.
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[18:16] <la4yua> cool-- sends slow scan tv?
[18:19] <PE2BZ> yes but the digital version, in LoRa mode 3 image packets.
[18:20] <SA6BSS-Mike1> we call it ssdv but mutch like SS TV
[18:20] <SA6BSS-Mike1> https://ssdv.habhub.org/
[18:20] <la4yua> ah i see.. cool stuff
[18:20] <PE2BZ> Uno if you have much time to spend visit my NAS album http://habfoto.dyndns.org/
[18:21] <la4yua> i have all day and all night :) i have alook :)
[18:21] <PE2BZ> has a lot of payload images, and camera images in HD (from recovered Pi´s) or SD (from not receovered Pi´s :-(
[18:21] <PE2BZ> I have 700 MBit Fiber :-)
[18:23] <la4yua> i'm on airborn 440 mhz hehe..  that's cool pictures conqraats
[18:24] <la4yua> dunno how it is in finland to send up.. i'm close to the border
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[18:29] <PE2BZ> Close to Sweden or close to Finland ?
[18:29] <la4yua> finland
[18:30] <la4yua> have the russian border 4 km away and finland 60 km
[18:31] <PE2BZ> That´s close to the edge of the world ;-)
[18:32] <la4yua> north pole is closer hehe.. i'm on aprs.fi  loc is spot on
[18:33] <la4yua> kinda cool to do ms from here.. since i'm alone so everyone gets a now locater to log
[18:34] <la4yua> buildning me a 6x 14 el az el this summer 1 kw out
[18:37] <la4yua> ben.. how much do i have to pay you for send up one whit my call on? thinking if you have most stuff at home..
[18:39] <PE2BZ> Uno, you mean an RS41 tracker programmed with RTTY , some CW and possible 4fsk ?
[18:39] <PE2BZ> Or your call on a balloon up in the air ?
[18:40] <la4yua> my call on the baloon
[18:41] <la4yua> a litle one ofc
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[20:31] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BSS43 after 038 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BSS43
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