highaltitude.log.20220429

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[02:15] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03W3FGP-11 after 033 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W3FGP-11
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[06:30] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BZ-LORA-6 after 0313 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BZ-LORA-6
[06:38] <VK5QI> SA6BSS-Mike: so... what happens if we have a WSPR receiver that is off-frequency a bit?
[06:43] <SA6BSS-Mike> Hans have a numer of gps disciplined wspr rx as reference
[06:44] <SA6BSS-Mike> not his own, he scnas wspr database and have a algoritm figuring out the coorrect freq
[06:45] <VK5QI> even still
[06:45] <VK5QI> not the best idea imo
[06:46] <SA6BSS-Mike> I think its absolutely great !
[06:46] <VK5QI> unless everyone conforms to that protocol, its going to break
[06:46] <VK5QI> who controls the slots?
[06:46] <VK5QI> etc
[06:46] <VK5QI> what happens if the transmitter drifts?
[06:46] <SA6BSS-Mike> well, there is 200ch so, only a handfull will fly at any time
[06:46] <SA6BSS-Mike> sorry 600ch
[06:46] <VK5QI> he slaims 600
[06:46] <VK5QI> claims
[06:48] <VK5QI> is what he's doing compatible with what WB8EK is doing?
[06:48] <VK5QI> others?
[06:48] <VK5QI> WB8ELK*
[06:48] <SA6BSS-Mike> elk isnt using any Q 0 1 calls ?
[06:49] <VK5QI> see, didnt know this
[06:49] <VK5QI> oh well, not really something i expect ill need to deal with
[06:49] <SA6BSS-Mike> indeed :)
[06:49] <VK5QI> no way in hell i'm writing a WSPR parser
[06:50] <VK5QI> someone else can do that if they want the data to end up on amateur.sondehub.org
[06:50] <SA6BSS-Mike> also I think elk have a qrp-lab cmpatible fw as well
[06:50] <VK5QI> i offered that to qrp-labs, since their tracking pages are a bit... ehh
[06:50] <VK5QI> (lol google maps for development use only)
[06:50] <SA6BSS-Mike> nice, didny know about that, I have seen some discutions ....
[06:51] <VK5QI> its somethign we are starting up based off the architecture of the sondehub db
[06:51] <SA6BSS-Mike> not hree, map is fine
[06:51] <VK5QI> its fine up to X page loads
[06:51] <VK5QI> then it hits the same issue tracker.habhub.org has
[06:51] <VK5QI> we... don't use google maps
[06:53] <VK5QI> but yeah, what we *don't* have on amateur.sondehub.org is a UKHAS string parser (at least, not yet). this means that telemetry has to be upload as a JSON object, so the uploader already has to know how to break out the telemetry fields. however this isnt an issue for WSPR, since that already happens
[06:53] <SA6BSS-Mike> I would assume that Hans would be interested in integrate his tracking only habhu and/or this site, but I think he kind of have his hands full at the moment
[06:53] <VK5QI> well i raised a ticket on his site with the info he needs, since i didnt see an email
[06:54] <VK5QI> if the end up on APRS then they'll end up on the map anyway (we have an APRS importer that doesn't have heaps of latency :-) ) however i'm not going to even attempt to try and parse telemetry out of an APRS comment field
[06:54] <VK5QI> thats just a huge can of incompatible worms
[06:54] <SA6BSS-Mike> you can try "Hans Summers" <hans.summers@gmail.com>
[06:55] <SA6BSS-Mike> :)
[06:55] <VK5QI> for WSPR, better that something central scrapes the data from wsprnet, figures it out, and uploads the telemetry
[06:57] <VK5QI> then we can just skip the APRS step...
[06:57] <SA6BSS-Mike> on this I agree , its quite fragmented at the moment
[07:00] <VK5QI> but yeah, i'm not writing that bit... i can provide API usage examples however
[07:00] <VK5QI> and its a very very simple API to use...
[07:00] <VK5QI> (needs some documentation work mind you, but its very early days)
[07:05] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SA6BSS-43 after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SA6BSS-43
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[07:35] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03K5WH-88 after 0315 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=K5WH-88
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[08:12] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SP6ZWR-4FSK - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP6ZWR-4FSK
[08:13] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SQ6NLN-4FSK - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SQ6NLN-4FSK
[08:22] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SQ6NLN_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SQ6NLN_chase
[08:31] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SP6ZWR-12 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP6ZWR-12
[08:31] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SQ6NLN-12 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SQ6NLN-12
[09:26] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BSS43 after 0313 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BSS43
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[10:44] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03HORUS-V2 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HORUS-V2
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[11:22] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03VE3OCL-29 after 036 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VE3OCL-29
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[13:19] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KG5TED-17 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KG5TED-17
[13:20] <ly2en> SA6BSS-Mike: unpacked today, the balloon looks smaller than expected, what is the approx free lift for that size? 5-6 grams ?
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[14:08] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PA3DJR-27 after 0315 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PA3DJR-27
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[14:22] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP9UOB-P41 after 0312 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP9UOB-P41
[14:28] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP9UOB-12 after 0312 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP9UOB-12
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[15:15] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KF0GOR-13 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KF0GOR-13
[15:54] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KW9D-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KW9D-11
[16:29] <SA6BSS-Mike> ly2en: look here https://sagballoons.com/sp/4b-32/
[16:30] <SA6BSS-Mike> 6-7 gram of free lift is fine
[16:30] <SA6BSS-Mike> im using 8.5 on the last flights
[16:30] <SA6BSS-Mike> make sure to prestretch to at least 0,350
[16:30] <SA6BSS-Mike> psi
[16:31] <SA6BSS-Mike> use the watercolumn, if you dont have a psi gauge
[16:32] <ly2en> SA6BSS-Mike: schools have watercolumns :)
[16:32] <SA6BSS-Mike> https://hextobinary.com/unit/pressure/from/watercolcm/to/psi
[16:32] <ly2en> btw how much total load is the system? 80mA ?
[16:32] <ly2en> i'm doing a current test with resistors
[16:33] <SA6BSS-Mike> if you switch the gps and radio not more then max 35Ma at any time
[16:33] <ly2en> ok so i will load 75 ohms to see what happens at 3V
[16:33] <ly2en> to see if that gets me to 40mA
[16:35] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03N6CVO-15 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N6CVO-15
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[16:43] <ly2en> well, i need a better halo light I guess :)
[16:43] <ly2en> but with 75ohm i get up to 35mA
[16:43] <ly2en> so that's almost exactly how much is needed
[16:43] <SA6BSS-Mike> yeah, or long sunny days :)
[16:43] <ly2en> rr
[16:44] <ly2en> so theoretically it should power up now
[17:37] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KO4DTP-12 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KO4DTP-12
[18:10] <ly2en> ok so it WORKS from 3V - carefully soldered and the 150w halo as the sun
[18:10] <ly2en> now I can launch with confidence
[18:15] <PE2BZ> Launch the halo ;-) ?
[18:20] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DC2EH-12 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DC2EH-12
[18:21] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KO4DTP-13 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KO4DTP-13
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[18:49] <SpacenearUS> New position from 034FSKTEST-V2 after 036 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=4FSKTEST-V2
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[19:20] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03NOB9 after 0316 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=NOB9
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[19:25] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KO4DTP-14 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KO4DTP-14
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[19:28] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03GAS-8 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=GAS-8
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[20:22] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KO4DTP-15 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KO4DTP-15
[20:23] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KN4TPG-3 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KN4TPG-3
[20:23] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03W4RYF-9 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W4RYF-9
[20:33] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BALLON-13 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BALLON-13
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[21:27] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DL1XH-4FSK - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DL1XH-4FSK
[22:06] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03DO3GU-6 after 034 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DO3GU-6
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[23:01] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03VK5BRL-V2 after 036 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VK5BRL-V2
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