highaltitude.log.20220226

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[01:16] <VK5QI> !dial HORUS-V2
[01:17] <SpacenearUS> 03VK5QI: Latest dials for 03Horus Binary v2 - HORUS-V2 10(ef66): 03434.199 MHz, 434.2 MHz, 434.201233 MHz, 434.200834 MHz, 434.201245 MHz, 434.200855 MHz, 434.200928 MHz, 434.200839 MHz, 434.201234 MHz, 434.200854 MHz, 434.200849 MHz
[02:02] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03WB0URW-15 after 0317 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WB0URW-15
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[06:33] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KD2FOU-11 after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD2FOU-11
[06:50] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03NOB9 after 0315 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=NOB9
[07:56] <SpacenearUS> New position from 034FSKTEST after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=4FSKTEST
[08:45] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03W3UAV-12 after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W3UAV-12
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[09:13] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DL7AD-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DL7AD-11
[09:22] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SP9DEV-12 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP9DEV-12
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[09:44] <OZ1SKY_Brian> hi
[09:46] <PE2BZ> Gm Brian
[09:46] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Hi Ben
[09:47] <PE2BZ> Nice weather today to do some antenna works :-) Nothing damaged last weekend except 4 solar panels 19 * 42 mm ;-)
[09:48] <OZ1SKY_Brian> yeah nice here too, stuck here with that damn cv19, so not much energy to do antenna work
[09:48] <OZ1SKY_Brian> strom passed way south of here, so nothing to fix
[09:49] <PE2BZ> Sorry to hear about the cv19, good to hear nothing to fix :-)
[09:50] <PE2BZ> Trying to flash an RS41 with the ng firmware, but somehow I am ¨out of luck¨
[09:50] <OZ1SKY_Brian> what does the ng do ?
[09:51] <PE2BZ> Horus V2, and the ability to add an BMP280 for temperature and pressure data
[09:51] <PE2BZ> amongst other things ;-)
[09:52] <OZ1SKY_Brian> sri if i forgot, but is it not possible to use the rs41 own temp and pressure sensor ?
[09:52] <PE2BZ> Not at this moment, no.
[09:52] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ok then it makes sense :-)
[09:53] <OZ1SKY_Brian> is that what Mark been testing today?
[09:54] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Horus-V2
[09:54] <PE2BZ> Yes, you´ve got that right :-) You see, slowly you get better :-)
[09:54] <OZ1SKY_Brian> i see temp and pressure
[09:54] <OZ1SKY_Brian> :-)
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[09:54] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SP9DEV-13 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP9DEV-13
[09:55] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SP9DEV-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP9DEV-11
[10:04] <VK5QI> OZ1SKY_Brian: yeah, humidity didnt work for some reason
[10:04] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Hi Mark, still nice, allmost there :-)
[10:04] <VK5QI> and yes, onboard sensors are still a mystery
[10:04] <VK5QI> hence adding the BMP280
[10:05] <VK5QI> it was also nice to finally do a launch with the v2 mode :-)
[10:05] <OZ1SKY_Brian> is there something new to the modulation or else?, 4fsk still ?
[10:07] <VK5QI> yeah, just a longer packet
[10:07] <VK5QI> you get 9 whole bytes to put custom stuff into :P
[10:08] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ok nice so still the good SNR
[10:08] <VK5QI> and the payload ID field is now 2 bytes instead of 1, so much less chance of running out
[10:08] <VK5QI> yeah
[10:08] <VK5QI> on-air time is a little longer, its now 3.3 seconds
[10:08] <VK5QI> but that's not really a big deal
[10:09] <OZ1SKY_Brian> so you can deside if you want to run v1 or v2, maybe v1 to save batt if the sensor is not needed?
[10:09] <VK5QI> to a point, but we will eventually run out of v1 IDs, especially if every polish ham wants one
[10:10] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ah ok i see :-)
[10:10] <VK5QI> in terms of battery life its not a big deal. as for the extra bytes, one of the defaults in the RS41ng firmware is that the on-GPS ascent rate is included
[10:10] <OZ1SKY_Brian> its become too popular :-)
[10:10] <VK5QI> which i found kind of interesting to watch
[10:11] <VK5QI> and eventually mayube someone will figure out the original sensors
[10:11] <OZ1SKY_Brian> im not sure i know what the on-gps is, other than normal ascent rate?
[10:11] <VK5QI> i mean, the gps can determine the ascent rate
[10:12] <OZ1SKY_Brian> you mean the rs41 calculate the ascent rate and not habhub or ?
[10:12] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ah ok
[10:12] <VK5QI> yes
[10:12] <VK5QI> just something to put into the custom bytes :-)
[10:12] <VK5QI> and yeah, if they are not used, they will just be 0
[10:12] <OZ1SKY_Brian> yeah :-)
[10:13] <OZ1SKY_Brian> btw the japan satellite, ive not seen any launch date yet?
[10:13] <OZ1SKY_Brian> the moon lander
[10:13] <VK5QI> i thought it was going on artemis?
[10:14] <VK5QI> or maybe i was confused
[10:14] <OZ1SKY_Brian> well it is
[10:14] <OZ1SKY_Brian> but have you seen a launch date yet?
[10:14] <VK5QI> which means launch date is always 3 months away, right?
[10:14] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ah yes lol
[10:14] <VK5QI> kind of like how fusion power is always 30 years away
[10:14] <OZ1SKY_Brian> yeah :-)
[10:15] <OZ1SKY_Brian> should be possible to pick up shortly after launch with a smaller setup i would think?
[10:15] <VK5QI> assuming its transmitting after launch
[10:15] <OZ1SKY_Brian> yeah
[10:15] <VK5QI> it might not even be deployed by then
[10:15] <OZ1SKY_Brian> i picked up the china moon orbiter
[10:15] <VK5QI> anyway, i need to get one of the polish group to do a launch with the v2 mode so that everyone over there updates
[10:16] <VK5QI> because there's people there on v0.1 still
[10:16] <OZ1SKY_Brian> 0,2,3 here i should update
[10:18] <OZ1SKY_Brian> 0,3,4 DL
[10:18] <VK5QI> :-)
[10:19] <OZ1SKY_Brian> done and ready if something should pass
[10:19] <VK5QI> not sure the polish guys turn up on here often?
[10:19] <VK5QI> not sure where they coordinate all their launches
[10:19] <VK5QI> because they seem to do quirte a few
[10:20] <OZ1SKY_Brian> im not sure, its very rare a polish launch goes this way, so i dont have any contact to your frinds in Poland
[10:20] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Mostly see launches from UK,NL and DL up here and sometimes from Sweden
[10:21] <OZ1SKY_Brian> mostly wind is wester to eastern
[10:21] <OZ1SKY_Brian> western
[10:22] <OZ1SKY_Brian> btw good to see some MRZ´s on sondehub, should maybe bring on some more trackers over there
[10:22] <OZ1SKY_Brian> but didnt expect M10 from kazakhstan
[10:23] <VK5QI> yeah a bit odd
[10:25] <PE2BZ> VK5QI, Hi Mark, can I request a V2 ID by IRC ?
[10:25] <VK5QI> haha
[10:25] <VK5QI> sure
[10:25] <VK5QI> what call
[10:25] <OZ1SKY_Brian> PE2BZ NO only mailorder! :-)
[10:25] <VK5QI> PE2BZ-V2 ?
[10:26] <PE2BZ> Would be nice :-)
[10:26] <VK5QI> id 265
[10:26] <PE2BZ> Thanks for the quick support :-)
[10:26] <VK5QI> no problems :-)
[10:26] <PE2BZ> Are you in need of a kerberos ?
[10:27] <PE2BZ> by any chance ?
[10:27] <VK5QI> if you are on v0.3.4 on decoding then it will automatically assume you are using the default custom fields from RS41ng, unless otherwise set
[10:27] <VK5QI> i mean, i have a kerberos
[10:27] <VK5QI> one of the channels has a gain issue
[10:27] <VK5QI> waiting on a kraken
[10:28] <PE2BZ> I did read something on Twiter. I have one too, but I don´t use it because of the Pi´s not getting around with 4 USB dongles over here.
[10:28] <PE2BZ> !whereis my-BMP-280
[10:28] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: I haven't got a clue
[10:28] <VK5QI> haha
[10:29] <VK5QI> not sure why mine wasnt working with humidity, oh3bhx is looking into it
[10:29] <VK5QI> but hey, pressure and temperature worked, which was kind of what i was after
[10:31] <VK5QI> but yeah, RS41ng firmware is much cleaner than mine, though it is missing a few little features that i like in RS41HUP (like the 'pip' between transmissions)
[10:31] <OZ1SKY_Brian> yeah that is nice to tune in on
[10:32] <VK5QI> it also uses a bit more power as its running at a higher CPU Speed
[10:32] <VK5QI> but on the other hand, i really cannot be arsed implementing horus v2 in RS41HUP
[10:32] <VK5QI> got too much other stuff to
[10:32] <VK5QI> to do*
[10:32] <SA6BSS-Mike1> maby ad a second freq setting whch would make the board tx on two freq making it easier to find a web sdr and listen for it
[10:33] <SA6BSS-Mike1> or for qrm perspective , better chance one of the freqs are free
[10:33] <VK5QI> well one of the updates with horus-gui v0.3, and in the horusdemodlib updates, is that it will report frequency
[10:33] <VK5QI> !dial HORUS-V2
[10:33] <SpacenearUS> 03VK5QI: Latest dials for 03Horus Binary v2 - HORUS-V2 10(ef66): 03434.20089 MHz, 434.200892 MHz, 434.200902 MHz, 434.200899 MHz, 434.200908 MHz
[10:33] <VK5QI> so at least you'll know what frequency its on
[10:33] <OZ1SKY_Brian> that is nice
[10:35] <SA6BSS-Mike1> dual freq would be a nice setting feature, maby onece every 10 tx on the alternate freq, seeing many looking for web sdrs in vain as the balloon goes away
[10:36] <VK5QI> that'll be a feature rest for RS41ng then
[10:36] <VK5QI> request*
[10:36] <SA6BSS-Mike1> roger
[10:37] <OZ1SKY_Brian> like a homing frequency
[10:37] <PE2BZ> VK5QI, payload doc for V2 is the same number of fields regardless if BMP280 is active ?
[10:37] <VK5QI> yeah
[10:37] <VK5QI> use Horus Binary v2 - HORUS-V2 as an example
[10:38] <VK5QI> and no... there is no 'GPS Error' field in the telemetry... it's ground speed!
[10:38] <OZ1SKY_Brian> PE2BZ if no bmp200 you have free bits for dirty jokes :-)
[10:39] <VK5QI> plenty of space to send repeats of 30335
[10:39] <VK5QI> wait, 30035
[10:42] <VK5QI> back later..
[10:42] <PE2BZ> rr enjoy !
[10:42] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PE2BZ-V2 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PE2BZ-V2
[10:42] <OZ1SKY_Brian> later mark
[10:42] <VK5QI> aha
[10:43] <VK5QI> hmm why is it sending with dud altitude
[10:43] <VK5QI> weird
[10:44] <VK5QI> i thought i lock that out, guess not :/
[10:44] <VK5QI> problem is, at what point do you set an altitude threshold...
[10:44] <SA6BSS-Mike1> Bens at lower then sea level ?
[10:44] <PE2BZ> It might know where it is in minutes
[10:44] <VK5QI> it should clip it at 0
[10:45] <SA6BSS-Mike1> rr
[10:45] <PE2BZ> SA6BSS-Mike1, actually, I am :-)
[10:45] <SA6BSS-Mike1> :)
[10:45] <PE2BZ> Now time for some serious business, back later !
[10:45] <PE2BZ> !dial pe2bz-v2
[10:45] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[10:45] <VK5QI> annoying though, need to look into that
[10:46] <VK5QI> oh yeah, i think that dial thing only works with a flight dog
[10:46] <VK5QI> doc*
[10:46] <VK5QI> not sure why
[10:46] <PE2BZ> You just proved that ;-)
[10:46] <VK5QI> !dial PE2BZ-V2
[10:46] <SpacenearUS> 03VK5QI: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[10:46] <VK5QI> ok i definitely need to get OH3whatzizname to check up on the position stuff
[10:53] <PE2BZ> <VK5QI> not sure why mine wasnt working with humidity, oh3bhx is looking into it
[10:54] <PE2BZ> The BMP280 can only measure temperature and air pressure, while the BME280 can measure humidity in addition to temperature and air pressure. Because of this difference, BMP280 is much cheaper than BME280.
[10:55] <VK5QI> ahahahahahahah
[10:55] <VK5QI> derp.
[10:56] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BSS42 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BSS42
[11:03] <SA6BSS-Mike1> testing a wspr flight using the Yokohama balloon
[11:03] Nick change: SA6BSS-Mike1 -> SA6BSS-Mike
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[12:02] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03HA1NX-14 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HA1NX-14
[12:03] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03HA1NX-13 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HA1NX-13
[12:03] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03HA1NX-12 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HA1NX-12
[12:12] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03N4XWC-1 after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1
[12:24] <Chrischan_2> SA6BSS-Mike pls FrequenzHi Mike, what frequency is your balloon broadcasting on?
[12:24] <SA6BSS-Mike> wspr 20m
[12:25] <Chrischan_2> Thank you, I wish you a long flight
[12:26] <SA6BSS-Mike> tnx, testing a new balloon, looking promising, hope for a couple of laps on this one
[12:30] <Chrischan_2> It will work, you've already been very successful in the past :) Unfortunately I don't (yet) have any reception technology for such low frequencies.
[12:30] <SA6BSS-Mike> ok 👍
[12:33] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03K6RPT-11 after 0319 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=K6RPT-11
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[13:41] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03K6RPT-13 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=K6RPT-13
[14:06] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03DH3SUP-4FSK after 036 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DH3SUP-4FSK
[15:04] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03K6RPT-14 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=K6RPT-14
[15:07] <OZ1SKY_Brian> !dial dh3sup-4fsk
[15:07] <SpacenearUS> 03OZ1SKY_Brian: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
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[15:25] <OZ1SKY_Brian> can someone confirm 433.050 for dh3sup-4fsk?
[15:28] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IDA-4FSK after 036 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IDA-4FSK
[15:32] <OZ1SKY_Brian> 433.050 confirmed
[15:32] <OZ1SKY_Brian> decode at -0.9deg wow nice
[15:33] <OZ1SKY_Brian> !dial dh3sup-4fsk
[15:33] <SpacenearUS> 03OZ1SKY_Brian: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[15:38] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03sammy-ttnv3 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=sammy-ttnv3
[15:46] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DC2EH-6 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DC2EH-6
[16:15] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03K6RPT-12 after 033 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=K6RPT-12
[16:21] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03W6SUN - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W6SUN
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[18:00] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03DG4NOB-13 after 033 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DG4NOB-13
[18:32] <OZ1SKY_Brian> IDA-4FSK have drifted abit down, reading 433.048.5 here now
[18:37] <OZ1SKY_Brian> got to be abit of tropo, still fine decode at -0,7deg
[18:37] <OZ1SKY_Brian> 18F20012242DBC4C504208262541802D50D1D184DD75 (4.5 dB SNR)
[18:43] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD0AWK-14 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD0AWK-14
[18:52] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD0AWK-1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD0AWK-1
[19:35] <PE2BZ> OZ1SKY_Brian, nice! They are a bit to far apart to decode 2 at one receiver.
[19:39] <OZ1SKY_Brian> hi ben easy on a sdr
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[19:44] <DK6OV> Hi
[19:45] <PE2BZ> Gutenabend :-)
[19:45] <bertrik> hi
[19:45] <OZ1SKY_Brian> moin :-)
[19:46] <DK6OV> With a bandwidth of 4 KHz, the reception is just possible.
[19:46] <OZ1SKY_Brian> yes worked fine here too
[19:46] <PE2BZ> I have no 4 kHz on my Icom ;-)
[19:47] <OZ1SKY_Brian> you have a sdr dont you? :-)
[19:47] <PE2BZ> I do :-) Multiple ;-)
[19:47] <OZ1SKY_Brian> use them :-)
[19:47] <PE2BZ> But I have a local RS41 on test over here, with BME280 running
[19:48] <PE2BZ> And I have covered the receiving part at PA3DJR ´s websdr :-)
[19:48] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ahh ok
[19:48] <DK6OV> But DH3SUP-4FSK is now getting very week.
[19:51] <DK6OV> Nothing more to see from Sh3SUB-4FSK now. I don't know why. It is not as far from me.
[19:52] <DK6OV> DH3SUB of corse.
[19:54] <PE2BZ> 20:53:50 [INFO] Habitat - Uploaded sentence: $$IDA-4FSK,340,19:53:46,51.02259,9.62640,11986,103,210,-49,2.55*15DA
[19:54] <PE2BZ> 20:54:00 [INFO] Habitat - Uploaded sentence: $$DH3SUP-4FSK,345,19:53:55,50.53025,9.09187,8276,90,208,-36,2.65*9FF7
[19:54] <PE2BZ> Ok, that works indeed :-)
[19:55] <OZ1SKY_Brian> nice :-)
[19:55] <PE2BZ> DK6OV, strange DH3SUP is that weak, blind spot ?
[19:56] <PE2BZ> My rs41ng is currently running below 2.2 V. Let´s wait when it finishes....
[19:58] <DK6OV> Let's see what happen with the receiving of IDA. I's running the same path.
[20:01] <PE2BZ> 3000 m altitude difference, what does that do in elevation from your QTH ?
[20:02] <DK6OV> That are now 2.9° elevation to IDA
[20:02] <PE2BZ> For me Ida is + 0,2 and SUP is - 0.3
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[20:58] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03K1amo_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=K1amo_chase
[21:03] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03MAXHD-4FSK-mobil_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=MAXHD-4FSK-mobil_chase
[21:09] <michaela-lgbt> I've been playing around with using SondeHub for tracking amateur radio balloons and the dashboards we can create. We support API and APRS feeds (with horusdemodlib already supported) https://imgur.com/a/UXJe5hS
[21:13] <michaela-lgbt> IDA-4FSK as well https://imgur.com/a/76q3gno
[22:11] <VK5QI> PE2BZ: there'll probably be some updates to hopefully fix the dodgy altitude issue
[22:12] <VK5QI> the altitude wasnt being clipped at 0, it woudl wrap
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[23:22] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03WB0URW-15 after 0315 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WB0URW-15
[23:23] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 034FSKTEST-V2 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=4FSKTEST-V2
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