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[00:53] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03N4XWC-1 after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1
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[06:42] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SV3CIX-12 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SV3CIX-12
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[07:05] <ly2en> it would be super nice if habhub supported big grid squares
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[07:06] <ly2en> (while we're still at WSPR for telemetry)
[07:07] <SA6BSS-Mike> it should be relative easy to mod the script to upload grid , set a fixed altitude
[07:07] <SA6BSS-Mike> the sm0ulc cript
[07:10] <VK5QI> im sure people have upload positions that are just at the centre of the 4-character grid square before
[07:10] <SA6BSS-Mike> I think BSS41 went down yesterday, lets see if it calls in today
[07:11] <ly2en> VK5QI: those need to be sometimes correcter later on
[07:11] <SA6BSS-Mike> I do belive there even is another script out there...
[07:11] <SA6BSS-Mike> aprs script https://github.com/ve3gtc/aprsWsprBridge
[07:18] <ly2en> oh no here we go beautifulsoup again
[07:18] <ly2en> :)
[07:21] <VK5QI> scrape all the html :P
[07:22] <ly2en> \o/
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[09:33] <SA6BSS-Mike> wooo, its alive :)
[09:34] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BSS41 after 0316 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BSS41
[09:34] <SA6BSS-Mike> magic of lots of free lift :)
[09:37] <SA6BSS-Mike> great greyline propogation, firing up alot of VK station
[09:41] <PE2BZ> GM, so, the way to go is, annonce over here your payload is alive, which makes it report within one minute ? That did not work for my 17 year old son who was late for school today ;-)
[09:41] <VK5QI> SA6BSS-Mike: yeah im betting i'd be able to hear it
[09:41] <VK5QI> im hearing europ eon 15m here
[09:42] <SA6BSS-Mike> PE2BZ: LOL
[09:43] <SA6BSS-Mike> I was mostly in time for the buss, but I remeber one time I was runing to the buss with the socks in my hand :)
[09:44] <PE2BZ> Mine met a classmate from the town we live, with car and drivers license. Which gave him about 2 hours free time extra each day. Taken after 22:00 so never in bed at regular time... Still guessing he will learn from this :-)
[09:45] <SA6BSS-Mike> probably not :) fun before school!
[09:45] <VK5QI> ok, getting heard in europe
[09:45] <VK5QI> working SP3HDU on FT8 15m
[09:45] <SA6BSS-Mike> cool
[09:51] <VK5QI> SA6BSS-Mike: what band is your transmitter on?
[09:53] <PE2BZ> 20 mtr (assuming the balloon)
[09:54] <VK5QI> ok, will listen for a bit
[09:56] <VK5QI> how often does it tx?
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[09:59] <SA6BSS-Mike> quite often, 2-4 times evey 10 min seq
[09:59] <VK5QI> k, havent heard it yet
[10:00] <VK5QI> but might just be a combingion of propagation and noise
[10:00] <SA6BSS-Mike> its not out of danger yet, its getting lower again warning
[10:01] <SA6BSS-Mike> VK5KJP heard it
[10:01] <SA6BSS-Mike> stil 18517 ! :)
[10:01] <SA6BSS-Mike> j
[10:01] <SA6BSS-Mike> km
[10:02] <SA6BSS-Mike> VK5KJP seems to be in the same area ayou
[10:04] <VK5QI> VK5KJP is probably listening on the same remote SDR ive just started listening on :-)
[10:05] <SA6BSS-Mike> rr
[10:05] <SA6BSS-Mike> grr , its decending, wel, it ahve a full day of sunshine, lets hope it can climbe back up
[10:06] <VK5QI> there we go, just got a decode
[10:06] <SA6BSS-Mike> I see you!!!!
[10:06] <SA6BSS-Mike> what antenna is used?
[10:07] <SA6BSS-Mike> 18541 km!
[10:07] <VK5QI> conical monopole
[10:07] <SA6BSS-Mike> google....
[10:07] <VK5QI> its a bit of a custom design
[10:08] <SA6BSS-Mike> broadband 20m or broadband all hf?
[10:09] <VK5QI> https://www.areg.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/IMG_20200510_113953-1536x1152.jpg
[10:09] <VK5QI> broadband all HF, though SWR goes sky high below 7 MHz
[10:09] <VK5QI> though it still receives pretty well down there
[10:09] <SA6BSS-Mike> rr
[10:09] <VK5QI> https://i1.wp.com/www.areg.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/h0QAekt-scaled.jpg?ssl=1
[10:10] <SA6BSS-Mike> better have some good lp filter sitting next to a radio linc tower !
[10:10] <VK5QI> there's nothing running on that tower now except for a wifi ISP
[10:10] <SA6BSS-Mike> cant beat that, vertical on a hiltop out in nowhere
[10:10] <VK5QI> which is how we get our internet
[10:10] <SA6BSS-Mike> cool
[10:11] <VK5QI> the site is fairly low noise, has some local powerline arcing issues
[10:12] <VK5QI> there's some public kiwisdrs up there too https://www.areg.org.au/areg-remote-hf-receiver-kiwisdr
[10:12] <VK5QI> the rest of it is AREG members only ;-)
[10:12] <SA6BSS-Mike> :)
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[11:53] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03MAGNU-V2 after 035 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=MAGNU-V2
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[12:56] <PE2BZ> Hi, can someone tell the frequency for Magnu-V2 ? Payload doc mentions 434.412 MHz
[13:16] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03N4XWC-1 after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1
[14:14] <dbrooke> PE2BZ: I'm now rxing it on that freq
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[14:27] <dbrooke> ah, you have it on the SDR
[14:32] <PE2BZ> Thanks info anyway :-) Send it to me :-)
[14:32] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Dk7xx_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Dk7xx_chase
[14:33] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KD2FOU-11 after 0315 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD2FOU-11
[14:38] <dbrooke> the predicted turn towards you is around 10k to 12k altitude but I've no idea if it's expected to float lower than that
[15:11] <PE2BZ> The previous MAGNU disappeared from the map at around 21 km altitude. So this one might not come to Hook of Holland ;-)
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[16:06] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SA6BSS-9 after 039 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SA6BSS-9
[16:08] <PE2BZ> 9 days for the big jump :-)
[16:09] <SA6BSS-Mike> yeah :) I saw it came online 2 spots late last night on aprs.fi but with the delay on habhub they where never reported
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[16:36] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03sp9mr_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=sp9mr_chase
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[16:55] <Guest55> Hi, anyone had any positive experience in obtaining insurance for high altitude ballooning? Willing to share?
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[17:00] <daveake> Sure ... for non-commercial flights the BMFA member insurance covers balloon flights.
[17:01] <daveake> For commercial then you need to speak to a specialist broker e.g. Quartz
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[17:37] <Guest55> Thanks, my question was regarding launching balloons for commercial purposes. I've not tried Quartz, but have tried lots of others who either say outright no, or comment that they used to offer this type of insurance, but not any more. I'll try Quartz and let you know how I get on. Thanks.
[17:46] <LeoBodnar> so does commercial flight insurance cover different type of loss? or is it just different because it's due to profit nature?
[17:46] <LeoBodnar> i.e. they know you can pay more
[17:47] <LeoBodnar> I assume there are cases when you want to insure the operator losing payload they were flying for someone else
[18:12] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Glis011_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Glis011_chase
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[19:16] <ly2en> okay so to me, ballooning is now the best bang for the buck in the ham radio hobby
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[19:17] <ly2en> anyone done any cansats or something similar, going upwards ?
[19:18] <ly2en> (as the topic implies - "rockets, gliders...")
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[19:37] <LeoBodnar> "you bloody bet!" - said a google Loon guy to a comment that ballooning is not rocket science
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[19:45] <LeoBodnar> MAGNU-V2 - is she a floater, eh?
[19:47] Nick change: pe2bz_ -> PE2BZ
[19:50] <LeoBodnar> oh it's 4GFSK thing? I guess dl-fldigi is not good for it?
[19:50] <PE2BZ> indeed
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[19:55] <LeoBodnar> doesn't work on a Mac?
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[19:57] <LeoBodnar> both 0.1 and 0.2 crash without a log, oh well
[19:59] <PE2BZ> The windows versions ?
[19:59] <PE2BZ> https://rfhead.net/horus/horusgui/
[19:59] <PE2BZ> 0.2.3 win works as a charm over here
[20:00] <LeoBodnar> I don't have analogue input on my Windows laptop, nvm
[20:00] <LeoBodnar> maybe another day
[20:01] <ly2en> LeoBodnar: so going 30km up with a He-filled latex, popping it just to launch a cansat - would not be the worst idea ? Any blueprint that I could "copy with pride" ?
[20:02] <LeoBodnar> do you mean a rockoon?
[20:03] <ly2en> yeah and I will use this term from now on. thanks :)
[20:03] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SP10POW-4FSK - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP10POW-4FSK
[20:04] <DL1XH> Hi :-)
[20:04] <DL1XH> What is the QRG in use for Magnu-V2?
[20:04] <PE2BZ> 434.411 MHz
[20:04] <PE2BZ> Gutenabend :-)
[20:05] <DL1XH> Goedenavond :-)
[20:05] <PE2BZ> Nice flight from you for us
[20:06] <DL1XH> yeah, tnx for receiving
[20:07] <PE2BZ> No problem, running Magnu, DL1XH, old iMet sondes on 402.5 MHz from Reims (Fr)
[20:08] <DL1XH> aaah interesting
[20:18] <DL1XH> tnx for the info I just got Magnu-V2 to be decoded
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[20:40] <DL1XH> Hi Brian, long time no see :-)
[20:41] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Hi Bernd, yes long time, good to see you. Just came back from Frankfurt
[20:42] <OZ1SKY_Brian> by just i mean sunday
[20:42] <DL1XH> Oh...lucky you being back home now, right?
[20:43] <OZ1SKY_Brian> yes got home sunday
[20:44] <DL1XH> Have been in Arhus end of October, but did not want to bother you ;-)
[20:44] <OZ1SKY_Brian> why lucky, did something happen there?
[20:44] <OZ1SKY_Brian> i frankfurt?
[20:44] <OZ1SKY_Brian> in
[20:44] <DL1XH> not really ... I am just worried about the increasing numbers of infections
[20:45] <OZ1SKY_Brian> oh your welcome to stop by, just i know in advance
[20:46] <DL1XH> It was a Sunday morning, we have had an overnight in the marina
[20:46] <OZ1SKY_Brian> oh yes, we had no problems though, we where all accepted as 2G
[20:46] <DL1XH> BTW: Chrischan AA1 was in Grenaa at the same time
[20:47] <DL1XH> If my battery is going to last, then I have something for you... :-)
[20:47] <OZ1SKY_Brian> marina and Grenaa, are you both sailing?
[20:48] <DL1XH> sailing - no not me...we were having a round trip with the camper
[20:49] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ah ok understod :-)
[20:50] <VK5QI> LeoBodnar: what version of horus-gui did you try, and on what platform?
[21:35] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03VORTEX1 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VORTEX1
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[21:49] <LeoBodnar> tried v0.1.16 and v0.2.3 on 10.11.6
[21:56] <VK5QI> hrm
[21:56] <VK5QI> 10.11 eh
[21:56] <VK5QI> i built it on 10.13
[21:57] <VK5QI> if you open a terminal and go into /horus-gui.app/Contents/MacOS and run ./horus-gui it should at least capture any errors
[21:57] <VK5QI> i thought you were going to say you were trying to run it on a M1 mac, which won't work either (yet)
[22:05] <LeoBodnar> well I have M1 thanks for warning me :)
[22:05] <LeoBodnar> will it run on Windows 11 for ARM?
[22:06] <VK5QI> uhh nope
[22:06] <VK5QI> well, not hte builds
[22:06] <VK5QI> the builds*
[22:06] <VK5QI> im getting a M1 macbook pro in a few weeks
[22:08] <VK5QI> you're asking me for support on architectures i don't have access to :P
[22:09] <LeoBodnar> heh no worries, I'll get dedicated throwaway windows
[22:09] <VK5QI> if you feel brave you can compile it up from source
[22:09] <VK5QI> there's also a 'command-line' decoder for use on something like rpi with a RTLSDR rx
[22:10] <LeoBodnar> what, just stream audio via a pipe?
[22:10] <VK5QI> oh, sorry, i meant use a SDR RX
[22:10] <LeoBodnar> ah yeah
[22:10] <LeoBodnar> via UDP?
[22:11] <VK5QI> https://github.com/projecthorus/horusdemodlib/wiki/1.2--Raspberry-Pi-'Headless'-RX-Guide
[22:11] <VK5QI> nah, i mean all on one machine
[22:11] <LeoBodnar> rgr
[22:17] <VK5QI> but yeah, i ened to figure out a way to do automatedbuilds of this stuff, because once i switch to a M1 macbook its going to be harder to build for intel
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[23:15] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SQ3KNL - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SQ3KNL
[23:16] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03N4XWC-1 after 039 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1
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