highaltitude.log.20211112

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[05:05] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03LY1BWB-13 after 0320 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=LY1BWB-13
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[07:42] <ly2en> not yet happy about the reported speed
[07:43] <ly2en> OK 201 $$LY1BWB-13,0,07:24,42.14583,57.95833,12440,34,10.69,4.56,1,1*51
[07:43] <ly2en> this is what goes to habhub - should I change the template ?
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[07:50] <ly2en> i will rewrite the hab-wspr script to not to webscrape but rather to take the data from the wspr database directly using postgres... web scraping is a messsssss
[07:54] <bertrik> even better would be some kind of (REST?) API, but harder to negotiate I guess
[07:55] <bertrik> or some kind of "push" interface where you get the data as soon as it becomes available
[07:55] <ly2en> well the rest api is another layer in the whole lasagna. but the database rarely goes down, where a rest service can be bumpy
[07:56] <ly2en> but IIRC there is a REST service on the wsprnet somewhere
[07:59] <bertrik> I found this https://github.com/garymcm/wsprnet_api just 16 days old
[08:00] <bertrik> *last updated 16 day ago
[08:08] <ly2en> I think direct postgres should be fine. Just need to write the script in a way it does not ever load the wsprnet db more than needed
[08:21] <ly2en> https://www.wsprnet.org/drupal/wsprnet/spots/json gives 403, probably need to set the Content-type: application/json in the request
[08:22] <ly2en> ah no, you need to LOGIN!
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[08:27] <Guest720> Somebody.?
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[09:08] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03B-69 after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=B-69
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[09:10] <SM0ULC-David> a better access than scraping would be great.....
[10:03] <Oddstr13> craag: looks like UKHASnet ingress is down
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[10:10] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KD2FOU-11 after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD2FOU-11
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[10:14] <Guest63> Hello all. As part of my work, I would like to launch from the north of Scotland mainland radiosondes for meteorological measurement. I was wondering if you knew of any company offering such service commercially.
[10:14] <Guest63> Hello all. As part of my work, I would like to launch from the north of Scotland mainland radiosondes for meteorological measurement. I was wondering if you knew of any company offering such service commercially please.
[10:15] <Guest63> thank you in advance for any help you may have
[10:38] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BSS41 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BSS41
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[11:40] <SA6BSS-Mike> isnt sits doing those kinds of comercial flights in UK as Guest63 asking about
[11:41] <SA6BSS-Mike> Sits SITS dont know what webpage they have
[11:42] <Guest63> @sa
[11:42] <Guest63> SA6BSS-Mike, thank you for your reply. I just googled SITS, but could not find anything relevant
[11:43] <SA6BSS-Mike> maby if you hang in here someone else will awner , most people is at work now
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[12:03] <VK5QI> SITS = Sent-Into-Space
[12:05] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03N4XWC-1 after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1
[12:14] <ly2en> SM0ULC-David: my primary monitoring now is ... psql CLI client
[12:15] <ly2en> https://pasteboard.co/Mi7OHcBiUhVi.png
[12:15] <ly2en> :)
[12:16] <ly2en> that's directly from logs2.wsprdaemon.org
[13:09] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03M0XER-9 after 0312 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=M0XER-9
[13:36] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD0HIP-7 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD0HIP-7
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[15:01] <ly2en> LOL my pair of chinese balloons scheduled to liftoff next week... DEFLATED
[15:01] <ly2en> what the hell
[15:01] <ly2en> I kept them in the wardrobe closet
[15:02] <ly2en> checked on them now - they're on the ground
[15:02] <PE2BZ> the real chinese 36 inch or BoBo type balloons ?
[15:02] <ly2en> the 36" chinese, a pair of them
[15:02] <PE2BZ> How did you seal the inlet ?
[15:02] <ly2en> https://pasteboard.co/aON2FBUY7Aq0.png
[15:02] <ly2en> with the pro sealer
[15:03] <ly2en> three times each
[15:03] <ly2en> and they both are equally deflated
[15:05] <PE2BZ> Strange. not reusable ? Try to fill them with air and keep them a bit under pressure ? (c) Freddy Mercury ;-)
[15:07] <ly2en> they are not reusable unless I find another way in for helium and reseal
[15:08] <ly2en> the inlets are three times hot-sealed already
[15:08] <PE2BZ> Not enough length if you cut the sealed part ?
[15:08] <ly2en> nah probably not.. will see
[15:08] <ly2en> maybe 20mm left
[15:08] <ly2en> technically possible hehe
[15:09] <ly2en> but well, they cost 2usd each anyway
[15:10] <ly2en> and I still have like 6 of them folded
[15:10] <ly2en> it's just that... a hasty procedure would have costed the flight
[15:11] <PE2BZ> I would not fill them with HE in advance of the flight. I did read if you need to fill them in advance you should store them in a trashcan bag which you also fill with HE.
[15:16] <ly2en> I know that just storing them like that would be not the best idea but at least now I have a 100 inexpensive experience points
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[15:29] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BZ-RTTY-5 after 033 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BZ-RTTY-5
[15:29] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BZ-LORA-5 after 033 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BZ-LORA-5
[15:38] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP9UOB-P41 after 0316 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP9UOB-P41
[15:40] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03B-69 after 037 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=B-69
[16:04] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP9UOB-12 after 0316 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP9UOB-12
[17:02] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KG5TED-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KG5TED-11
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[17:39] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SQ3GJS - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SQ3GJS
[17:43] <MikeTango> PE2BZ: does that solve the diffusion problem?
[17:44] <SA6BSS-Mike> I would still fill the balloon(s) 1-2h max before flight
[17:44] <SA6BSS-Mike> they drop about 1 gram fl each 24h
[17:48] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03NOB10 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=NOB10
[18:20] <PE2BZ> MikeTango, if you have as much pressure in the trash bag (or even a bit more) as in the balloon, yes
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[20:16] <MikeTango> so, you put a balloon around the balloon.
[20:26] <LeoBodnar> partial pressure of He is 5 times of what it will be at altitude on top of 70C difference in temperature
[20:27] <LeoBodnar> idk how gas/skin temperatures affects diffusion rate but if it's classic chemical x2 per 7C then it's 2^10 or 1000 times
[20:27] Action: LeoBodnar has no idea what he's talking about
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[21:07] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03VORTEX1 after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VORTEX1
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[23:26] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03N4XWC-1 after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1
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[23:38] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VK3FUR-15_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VK3FUR-15_chase
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