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[04:31] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03NOB9 after 0315 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=NOB9
[04:59] <VK5QI> PE2BZ: https://github.com/projecthorus/horusbinary_radiolib
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[07:45] <PE2BZ> VK5QI, thanks, Good morning / afternoon.
[07:45] <PE2BZ> 09:45:35 [INFO] Habitat - Uploaded sentence: $$4FSKTEST,22,12:34:56,0.00000,0.00000,0,0,0,0,0.00*C83C
[07:45] <PE2BZ> 09:45:38 [ERROR] Decode Failed: Invalid field type - divide_by_10
[07:45] <PE2BZ> 09:45:43 [ERROR] Horus UDP - Zero Latitude/Longitude, not sending.
[07:45] <PE2BZ> 09:45:44 [INFO] Habitat - Uploaded sentence: $$4FSKTEST,23,12:34:56,0.00000,0.00000,0,0,0,0,0.00*EE96
[07:45] <PE2BZ> 09:45:47 [ERROR] Decode Failed: Invalid field type - divide_by_10
[07:46] <PE2BZ> Should decode on 0.2.1 right ?
[07:47] <VK5QI> huh
[07:47] <VK5QI> that shouldnt have broken earlier versions
[07:48] <PE2BZ> I only changed the QRG in the source.
[07:48] <VK5QI> i mean, thats a v1 packet
[07:48] <VK5QI> it shouldnt be using the custom field stuff (where that divide_by_10 error is coming from)
[07:49] <VK5QI> oh wait
[07:49] <PE2BZ> I restart the arduino, it starts with the V1 packet, which gets decoded, after that it transmits the V2 packet, right ?
[07:49] <VK5QI> what version are you runnning
[07:50] <PE2BZ> For RX 0.2.1
[07:50] <VK5QI> grab the latest horus-gui :-)
[07:50] <VK5QI> pheeeeeeeeew i thought i broke something there
[07:50] <VK5QI> 0.2.3 will fix the decode of the v2 packets
[07:50] <VK5QI> i added some new data conversions in
[07:53] <PE2BZ> Much better :-)
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[07:57] <VK5QI> nice
[07:57] <VK5QI> whats the firmware you were using?
[07:58] <PE2BZ> The one from 06:59:09 your link, on a maduino board which just happens to use the same I/O wiring :-)
[07:59] <VK5QI> nah, i mean whats the one in the air
[07:59] <VK5QI> and what tracker board are you using
[07:59] <VK5QI> ideally i need something similar to test
[08:00] <VK5QI> because it shouldnt be difficult to integrate this into that firmwre now
[08:02] <PE2BZ> At the moment flying is this: https://github.com/RoelKroes/TBTracker
[08:03] <PE2BZ> lora and rtty.
[08:05] <SA6BSS-Mike> lora 4fsk and aprs would be nice :) here is the 10278 aprs setup https://github.com/DO4AS/jufo-project-radiosonde
[08:05] <SA6BSS-Mike> I have *1278
[08:05] <SA6BSS-Mike> I have pcb setup for both barebone 1278 and module 1278
[08:07] <SA6BSS-Mike> I would be hapy to send a fully working aprs pcb to you if that would be of any interest of inserting 4fsk on it, I for sure dont have the coding skills :)
[08:07] <SA6BSS-Mike> my git with latest fe and pcb https://github.com/micked99
[08:07] <SA6BSS-Mike> *fw
[08:08] <SA6BSS-Mike> I suppose it could do Lora, Aprs, 4Fsk and rtty all in one board
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[08:10] <VK5QI> just tear off the bandaid with APRS :P
[08:11] <VK5QI> (and lora)
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[08:11] <VK5QI> you're not as restricted on telemetry formats with horus binary now, so you can add your extra sensors and stuff
[08:12] <SA6BSS-Mike> lets see if I can get another testflight in the air tomorrow, weather pending
[08:13] <SA6BSS-Mike> this time with an ldo soldered as I suspect last flight died due to overvolatge, those 1278 might be more sensetive then other ic I used before
[08:14] <SA6BSS-Mike> PE2BZ: did you fly any other aprs 1278 board then the first built on the arduino board?
[08:17] <VK5QI> one thing that i am worried about is the poor frequency stability of the lora chips
[08:17] <PE2BZ> VK5QI, we ¨need¨ those modes for floaters, wouldn´t know where to look for our trackers after a day or 4 :-)
[08:17] <VK5QI> PE2BZ: yeah but its APRS on 70cm
[08:17] <SA6BSS-Mike> no 2m
[08:17] <VK5QI> is there really that big an APRS network on 70cm?
[08:17] <VK5QI> ohhhh
[08:17] <SA6BSS-Mike> its aprs on 144
[08:17] <VK5QI> wait, the lora modems will do 2m?
[08:17] <PE2BZ> No, but as Mike says :-)
[08:17] <SA6BSS-Mike> with geofence freq moving
[08:17] <VK5QI> ok, fair enough
[08:17] <SA6BSS-Mike> yes
[08:17] <PE2BZ> The 1278 starts at 135 MHz
[08:17] <VK5QI> hrmmmmm
[08:18] <VK5QI> cant do both 2m and 70cm on the one payload though?
[08:18] <PE2BZ> Up to 1296 MHz tested
[08:18] <VK5QI> i mean, you'd have harmonic issues
[08:19] <SA6BSS-Mike> yes, use a lp filter for maby 300mhz and have it tx on the 144Mhz antennas 3rd harmonic, some dropoff in power but enough would radiate
[08:19] <VK5QI> well, horus binary would be fine on 2m anyway
[08:21] <SA6BSS-Mike> offer stand, just ping me and Il be happy to send you a working board, no strings attched :)
[08:22] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03F5APQ_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=F5APQ_chase
[08:22] <VK5QI> i can provide the strings :P
[08:22] <SA6BSS-Mike> true :)
[08:22] <SA6BSS-Mike> new pcb have both xo and tcxo support
[08:22] Action: PE2BZ thinks in images. Pppplease stop ;-)
[08:22] <VK5QI> PE2BZ: no tharts rope
[08:22] <VK5QI> not strings
[08:24] <PE2BZ> About the LoRa chip, Mine, without tcxo, are off between + and - 1 kHz at room temperature vs 10 km altitude. So for the auto catching of the horus gui that should be fine
[08:25] <SA6BSS-Mike> yes, I saw the frankenLora setup decoded fine on its trip
[08:25] <VK5QI> PE2BZ: what about drift in on startup?
[08:26] <VK5QI> im guessing it might need a few seconds of 'warmup'
[08:27] <PE2BZ> RFM98w, yesterday in the window opening, reporting 21 to 40 degrees (full sun at that moment) still within 1 kHz. For dlfldigi it needs work to keep up, for LoRa all worked fine.
[08:27] <SA6BSS-Mike> only seen the aprs strings but as stable as anything, it tx syncstring for maby 0,3sec before the data is transmited
[08:28] <PE2BZ> And tbh, I do not notice any TX drift in the Horus V1 and V2 packets , they are, ermmm, shorter :-)
[08:28] <VK5QI> the demod will handle *some* drift during a packet
[08:28] <VK5QI> but its not really tuned for it
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[08:43] <PE2BZ> Did I really just fried my second 328p in 2 days because of 14 V AC on the tip of my solder iron....
[08:43] <bertrik> aw ... :(
[08:44] <bertrik> right now, I'm trying to get the Helium LoRaWAN to work
[08:45] <bertrik> it's a LoRaWAN network like TheThingsNetwork but it has some funny crypto make-money-fast scheme behind it, so there are already quite a few gateways/hotspots for it
[08:52] <VK5QI> :/
[08:54] <PE2BZ> I am grounded now :-) Retry, 3 x 328p in stock.
[08:55] <PE2BZ> Maybe I should just disconnect the USBASP connector before wiring , not only switch the power jumper off
[08:58] <PE2BZ> bertrik, do you thinkg the switch to V3 is a big improvement ? I can´t even filter the gateway output on a certain payload address anymore :-(
[09:00] <bertrik> it was a bit of a hassle, not really an improvement
[09:00] <bertrik> what do you mean by filtering the gateway output?
[09:01] <bertrik> that it says "packet_broker" instead of a gateway name?
[09:05] <PE2BZ> No, in the V2 console I could see my gateway, and at the top line I could enteer a 26 0B address and only packets starting with that showed up (to see if you decode TTN HAB payloads or to see only your own packets)
[09:06] <bertrik> oh, I never noticed that such a thing was even possible
[09:16] <PE2BZ> I am missing something. Or overlooking something.
[09:16] <PE2BZ> C:\Users\pe2bz\Downloads\avrdude-64>avrdude -c usbasp -p m328p
[09:16] <PE2BZ> avrdude: error: program enable: target doesn't answer. 1
[09:16] <PE2BZ> avrdude: initialization failed, rc=-1
[09:17] <PE2BZ> Same programmer to nano ISP header all OK.
[09:17] <PE2BZ> both on 5 and on 3 volt
[09:17] <PE2BZ> let me find some coffee....
[09:38] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03F4KKD-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=F4KKD-11
[09:53] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SQ6NLN-4FSK after 0318 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SQ6NLN-4FSK
[09:55] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP6ZWR-4FSK after 0318 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP6ZWR-4FSK
[10:03] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SQ6NLN-12 after 0318 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SQ6NLN-12
[10:09] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP6ZWR-12 after 0318 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP6ZWR-12
[10:51] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SP8NCG_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP8NCG_chase
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[11:15] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03N4XWC-1 after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1
[11:37] <Prutz> Damn... this night/morning I was literally couple meters away from a sonde. It landed in a crop field and didn't want to destroy the crop and piss off the farmer. Now I saw on RadioSondy someone got it after an hour when I was there.
[11:39] <PE2BZ> Try to contact the farmer, they usually appreciate the fact that the electronics and metals are not being in the end product.
[11:40] <Prutz> Yeah I know... but didn't want to ring some random door bells at 4am :P
[11:40] <Prutz> Otherwise I would do this.
[11:42] <PE2BZ> That makes sense ;-)
[12:08] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03OK1OMG-2_Marvin - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=OK1OMG-2_Marvin
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[12:29] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03OK1OMG-12 after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=OK1OMG-12
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[12:56] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03LU1ESY-28 after 039 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=LU1ESY-28
[13:27] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DB1NTO-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DB1NTO-11
[13:47] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD5GOM-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD5GOM-11
[13:47] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03NOB8 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=NOB8
[13:52] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KB1KVR after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KB1KVR
[14:05] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DELTA9-R - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DELTA9-R
[14:06] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DELTA9-L - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DELTA9-L
[14:53] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03TTS39 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=TTS39
[14:55] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03TTS1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=TTS1
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[16:09] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SQ6NEI-4FSK after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SQ6NEI-4FSK
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[17:01] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SQ6NEI-12 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SQ6NEI-12
[17:04] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PC4L-01 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PC4L-01
[17:12] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03W8VPV-1 after 0316 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W8VPV-1
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[18:32] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03N0MPM-13 after 0315 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N0MPM-13
[18:45] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP6QKM-4FSK after 0321 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP6QKM-4FSK
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[20:09] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03LU1ESY-27 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=LU1ESY-27
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[23:09] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03N4XWC-1 after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1
[23:51] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03icspace26-hab-eu-863-870 after 0315 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=icspace26-hab-eu-863-870
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