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[00:03] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03N4XWC-1 after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1
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[06:52] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03W8VPV-1 after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W8VPV-1
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[07:38] <OZ1SKY_Brian> gm, looking at sundehub, all the antennas have become green dots, but what are the red/orange dots?
[07:38] <OZ1SKY_Brian> and yellow
[07:41] <snh> OZ1SKY_Brian: Stations run by people who are Patreon (as in contribute to the cost of running sondehub through a monthly patreon membership)
[07:42] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ah ok i see
[08:46] <VK5QI> lots of people donating small amounts monthly is somewhat more useful than once-off donations
[08:47] <VK5QI> also patreon provides an API which lets us do the station icon stuff, paypal doesnt...
[08:47] <OZ1SKY_Brian> how much does patreon take out of the cake?
[09:15] <VK5QI> depends :-)
[09:16] <VK5QI> everything helps
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[09:19] <MikeTango> ohai
[09:20] <MikeTango> thx for the fast reply on git
[09:20] <MikeTango> yesterday it took me ~5 hours to install
[09:20] <MikeTango> today, ~45 minutes
[09:20] <VK5QI> highly recommend using teh chasemapper docker image...
[09:20] <VK5QI> theres a reason it exist, and this is it
[09:21] <MikeTango> i disagree if the reason is "we don't know what black magic dependency stuff is happening"
[09:21] <VK5QI> well no
[09:21] <VK5QI> the dockerfile which generates the imae is in the repository
[09:21] <MikeTango> i was sitting in a place where ppl build software for robots
[09:21] <VK5QI> its not a black box
[09:22] <VK5QI> the entirity of the build chain is open
[09:22] <MikeTango> and they have the same problem for a robot controller...dependency hell
[09:22] <VK5QI> yeah well.
[09:22] <VK5QI> the docker images are the recommended way to get chasemapper and auto_rx going quickly on many platforms
[09:22] <VK5QI> thats coming from the developer
[09:22] <MikeTango> yes, and now we have a quick way to do it without docker
[09:22] <MikeTango> ...on this model of pi
[09:22] <VK5QI> sure
[09:22] <VK5QI> and yes, this is the problem
[09:22] <MikeTango> ...today.
[09:23] <VK5QI> docker images will always work
[09:23] <MikeTango> yes
[09:23] <VK5QI> because we make sure they always work
[09:23] <VK5QI> (except when they don't... but we fixed that :-) )
[09:23] <MikeTango> yes, and i am grateful that you also quickly implement the other way
[09:24] <VK5QI> i'm presuming that you needed those extra dependencies on the pi zero W?
[09:24] <MikeTango> no, yesterday was a rpi2b+
[09:24] <VK5QI> oh god
[09:24] <VK5QI> well
[09:24] <VK5QI> good luck running on a rpi 2
[09:24] <MikeTango> ^^ wait, there's more
[09:24] <VK5QI> pi zero w is on teh edge
[09:24] <MikeTango> it had a faulty sd card slot
[09:24] <MikeTango> kept ejecting the sd card
[09:25] <VK5QI> i cannot guarantee anything operating correctly on anything less powerful than RPi 3
[09:25] <MikeTango> so i hot glued the sd card to the slot
[09:25] <MikeTango> guess what hot glue does when it gets warm because the poor pi has to work
[09:25] <MikeTango> so, it half-ejected the sd card after i was done and somehow managed to write my fresh install full of crap
[09:25] <VK5QI> uhh yes, it melts
[09:26] <VK5QI> this is why the move to the friction fit socket in the RPi 3 was a good move
[09:26] <MikeTango> so i superglued it in but couldn't unfuck the file system
[09:26] <MikeTango> then i tried to remove the sd card with acetone
[09:26] <VK5QI> time to get a newer RPi methinks
[09:26] <MikeTango> and pulled off the entire sd card ejection seat with my fingernails
[09:27] <MikeTango> then i did some percussive stress release on the pi.
[09:27] <MikeTango> today, fresh coffee, fresh pi, fresh sd card.
[09:28] <MikeTango> oh, also a source of neverending joy: the fact that you default lat and lon to something that might or might not exist according to flat earthers
[09:28] <VK5QI> i have to default it to something
[09:28] <VK5QI> and 0.0, 0.0 is a nice easy one to check programatically
[09:28] <MikeTango> =-139 is so easy to turn into =-53 and wondering why it doesn't like germany
[09:29] <MikeTango> nah, the defaults for wind_grabber.sh and chasemapper's cusfwrapper.cfs default are australia
[09:30] <VK5QI> oh
[09:30] <VK5QI> yeah well
[09:30] <VK5QI> its where i live
[09:30] <VK5QI> sorry for living somewhere weird
[09:30] <bertrik> :)
[09:30] <MikeTango> horusmapper.cfg.example line 150
[09:31] <VK5QI> sure
[09:31] <VK5QI> i mean, it does say 'example'
[09:32] <MikeTango> yea and =- is hard to catch ^^
[09:32] <VK5QI> sorry from everyone in the southern hemisphere
[09:32] <VK5QI> or everyone west of the prime meridian :P
[09:32] <MikeTango> bask in your covid-free glory
[09:32] <VK5QI> uh
[09:32] <bertrik> perhaps I should docker'ify my bridge from TheThingsNetwork to habhub, it's written in Java
[09:32] <VK5QI> yeah tell that one to New South Wales
[09:33] <bertrik> (or is that dockerize?)
[09:33] <MikeTango> on average, you guys are so much better off
[09:33] <MikeTango> another thing that someone wrote is a cron job that auto-downloads the newest model every 6 hours
[09:33] <MikeTango> oh and something i noticed: when using the chasemapper on my tablet in the car, the GPS position comes from the tablet
[09:34] <VK5QI> https://github.com/darksidelemm/cusf_predictor_wrapper/blob/master/apps/sonde_predict.sh#L19
[09:34] <VK5QI> so kind of like whats done in here
[09:34] <VK5QI> MikeTango: uhhhhhh
[09:34] <VK5QI> i tried to suppor that, it didnt work due to https issues, so i dropped it
[09:34] <MikeTango> what
[09:35] <VK5QI> so im not sure how
[09:35] <MikeTango> no, it works
[09:35] <MikeTango> kind of
[09:35] <MikeTango> the track is visible, but the car icon keeps spinning and the speeds are only updated every second or so, switching to 0 between those
[09:36] <VK5QI> https://github.com/projecthorus/chasemapper/blob/master/templates/index.html#L676
[09:36] <VK5QI> the code is commented out
[09:36] <VK5QI> so i dont know wtf is going on there
[09:36] <MikeTango> o_O
[09:36] <MikeTango> wait one
[09:38] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03n8-1 after 037 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=n8-1
[09:41] <MikeTango> ok, now it gets *really* weird.
[09:41] <MikeTango> it doesn't.
[09:41] <MikeTango> but on the other version, which i have saved, it does the thing.
[09:42] <MikeTango> i put a fresh SD card into the pi and did not overwrite the old one.
[09:42] <VK5QI> yeah well, nfi :/
[09:42] <VK5QI> modern browsers dont allow device location access with non-https sites
[09:42] <VK5QI> so i gave up
[09:42] <MikeTango> nonononono it did the thing
[09:42] <VK5QI> i may look into it again if/when i have time (hahahahahahaha)
[09:43] <MikeTango> i am not willing to give up on that
[09:43] <MikeTango> booting the old sd card
[09:43] <VK5QI> what i dont want is to implement it and immediately have someone complain that it doesnt work
[09:43] <VK5QI> which is exactly what will happen
[09:44] <VK5QI> anyway, if you're on an older chasemapper version you wont be able to interface with sondehub
[09:44] <VK5QI> which may or may not matter
[09:45] <VK5QI> but anyway, i am not sure i ever had a version of chasemapper on github where that code was not commented out
[09:45] <VK5QI> so... i dont know whats happening in your situation
[09:46] <MikeTango> i don't know either
[09:46] <MikeTango> gimme a second
[09:48] <MikeTango> ok, now it also doesn't do the thing with the old version
[09:48] <MikeTango> jesus
[09:49] <MikeTango> ok, disregard everything i wrote
[09:49] <MikeTango> i have a USB GPS connected to the pi in my car.
[09:50] <MikeTango> i literally forgot it existed because it is under a hood in the car
[09:50] <MikeTango> Ieshua, son of Yusuf
[09:52] <MikeTango> i'm the l33test ha4xx0r around
[10:45] <Rebounder> hi guys!
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[11:08] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03ealtest2 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ealtest2
[11:56] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03N4XWC-1 after 039 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1
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[13:31] <PE2BZ> RS41 wiht aux data S2710269 southern part of UK, 23 km alt and descending.
[13:33] <PE2BZ> https://tracker.sondehub.org/S2710269
[13:33] <PE2BZ> Might head for the sea.
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[17:17] <SpacenearUS> New position from 034FSKTEST after 0319 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=4FSKTEST
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[17:52] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03N0MPM-13 after 0314 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N0MPM-13
[18:56] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SQ6NEI-4FSK after 033 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SQ6NEI-4FSK
[19:06] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03NOB8 after 0314 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=NOB8
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[19:47] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SQ6TW-4FSK after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SQ6TW-4FSK
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[21:16] <m0hhf> is there a site that announces launch dates and time please newbie
[21:18] <bertrik> tracker.habhub.org has a panel on the right with upcoming launches
[21:19] <bertrik> I think you can add it to your own google calendar
[21:19] <daveake> Beat me to it by 10 seconds
[21:19] <daveake> And yes you can
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[22:59] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HA8LOU-11 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HA8LOU-11
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