[00:10] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KB0SIS - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KB0SIS
[00:53] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VK2OS-2-M_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VK2OS-2-M_chase
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[02:56] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03GAS-2 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=GAS-2
[02:57] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KK6BJ-14 after 035 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KK6BJ-14
[03:48] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03N0PPP-4 after 0321 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N0PPP-4
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[05:03] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03LY1BWB-12 after 0319 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=LY1BWB-12
[05:04] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03VE3KCL-17 after 036 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VE3KCL-17
[05:07] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03K4UAH-5 after 0314 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=K4UAH-5
[05:11] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KM4ZIA-3 after 0316 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KM4ZIA-3
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[06:25] <ly2en> good morning, so LY1BWB is now up for 46 days and still counting
[06:25] <ly2en> i'm worried i cannot launch another one soon with the same call :)
[06:27] <SA6BSS-Mike> Gm, as long as it stays on its northly path it can be up for quite some time as the bad weather with its high clouds usually stays much more south
[06:31] <Darkside> SA6BSS-Mike: i still need to launch the tracker i got from you! I now know what im doing with the clear balloons
[06:31] <Darkside> but i might have missed my weather window
[06:32] <SA6BSS-Mike> I guess you are in the fall season now , arround here there can be troiblesome that time a year
[06:32] <SA6BSS-Mike> mainly wind is the problem
[06:32] <Darkside> yep, autumn here
[06:33] <SA6BSS-Mike> look for low winds, I have a max of 5m/s in the gusts
[06:33] <SA6BSS-Mike> thats MAX I prefer lower winds
[06:34] <Darkside> i think cloud is also an issue
[06:34] <SA6BSS-Mike> if you have another person helping ypu 5-6 is ok
[06:34] <SA6BSS-Mike> yes, no clouds is allowed :)
[06:34] <Darkside> yes thats becoming more difficult
[06:35] <SA6BSS-Mike> somw small clouds can be ok, but 90% is a ood
[06:35] <SA6BSS-Mike> good
[06:35] <Darkside> <2 octas :-)
[06:35] <SA6BSS-Mike> 90% clear*
[06:35] <Darkside> or whatever that unit is
[06:35] <SA6BSS-Mike> have you got the solar cells?
[06:35] <Darkside> okta
[06:35] <Darkside> yeah
[06:36] <Darkside> i havent built up the solar arrangement yt
[06:36] <SA6BSS-Mike> solder up 6 of them and put them on a cardboard and test the board outside
[06:36] <SA6BSS-Mike> oki
[06:36] <Darkside> i was thinking of making up a little platform from little sticks of foam
[06:37] <SA6BSS-Mike> reg the solar cells, make the cardboard setup and put it outside in the morning so you see it start ok from low solar angle
[06:37] <SA6BSS-Mike> so put it outside at below 10° and it should fire up arround 13-15°
[06:38] <Darkside> ok
[06:42] <SA6BSS-Mike> or you just simply test things out and wait for launch until August or something whn the solar getting highrt on your end again
[06:42] <Darkside> yup
[06:42] <Darkside> ill also want to chane the callsign to VK5ARG
[06:42] <Darkside> as ill do it as a club thing
[06:44] <SA6BSS-Mike> ah
[06:45] <SA6BSS-Mike> that part luckely is easy
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[07:21] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BZ4a after 0314 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BZ4a
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[08:15] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VK5QI-TEST_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VK5QI-TEST_chase
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[09:08] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03pc4l_0820 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=pc4l_0820
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[09:37] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SammyW after 0315 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SammyW
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[10:03] <LIERO> SA6BSS-Mike, https://i.imgur.com/O7iugWV.jpg
[10:03] <LIERO> :>
[10:04] <SA6BSS-Mike> cool!! :)
[10:05] <LIERO> will start soldering in a bit
[10:05] <SA6BSS-Mike> you know where to ask if you need advice
[10:05] <SA6BSS-Mike> rr
[10:27] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03DELTA7-R after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DELTA7-R
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[10:49] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03DELTA7-L after 033 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DELTA7-L
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[11:45] <LIERO> SA6BSS-Mike, should I flash it when it's fully done?
[11:45] <SA6BSS-Mike> no, you can flash when ever you like
[11:46] <SA6BSS-Mike> have you double shecked your programmer is 3,3v?
[11:46] <LIERO> no, I just got it Friday
[11:46] <LIERO> it has 3.3v and 5v jumper
[11:46] <SA6BSS-Mike> I always flash oscillator.ino and solder 328 tcxo and 5351, then you can see that it tx
[11:47] <SA6BSS-Mike> usually for this test you dont need any other components like pullups
[11:47] <LIERO> so solder antenna before powering it?
[11:47] <SA6BSS-Mike> alsi you can run it on the internal xo of the 328
[11:47] <LIERO> ok
[11:47] <SA6BSS-Mike> no, you cant heart it by tx in no load
[11:48] <SA6BSS-Mike> so, flash oscillator ino, solder 328 tcxo for 5351 and 5351
[11:48] <SA6BSS-Mike> then you should have a carrier arround 14095
[11:48] <SA6BSS-Mike> or so
[11:49] <SA6BSS-Mike> 14096, you see in the ino what freq its on
[11:57] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DL7AD-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DL7AD-11
[12:01] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BZ3a - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BZ3a
[12:01] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SA6BSS-9 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SA6BSS-9
[12:03] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03N4XWC-1 after 0312 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1
[12:46] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03W1YA-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W1YA-11
[12:55] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03AA1PJ-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=AA1PJ-11
[13:16] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03ICT6 after 0312 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ICT6
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[13:43] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03hera-four-test after 0320 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=hera-four-test
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[13:49] <LIERO> welp, can't set the fuses after setting the first one..
[13:50] <SA6BSS-Mike> bad solder petween 328 xo and 328
[13:55] <SA6BSS-Mike> or, you need to set the programmer at low sped
[13:55] <SA6BSS-Mike> speed
[13:55] <SA6BSS-Mike> what programmer?
[13:55] <LIERO> usbasp
[13:56] <LIERO> connections seem fine, I redid them just in casew
[13:56] <SA6BSS-Mike> you can short two pins for low speed
[13:57] <SA6BSS-Mike> short JP3 pins
[13:57] <SA6BSS-Mike> https://eecs.oregonstate.edu/education/inventory_datasheets/P1438967372-1443308202.pdf
[14:20] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03K4UAH-6 after 0313 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=K4UAH-6
[14:51] <PE2BZ> Is any other hardware mounted on the board ? I had some similair problems and had to set fuses at 5 volt. tcxo, gps and radiochip did survive
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[15:30] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03GSN-TS-2 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=GSN-TS-2
[15:33] <LIERO> yes
[15:34] <LIERO> microcontroller, synthesizer, txco and resonator are on board
[15:35] <LIERO> I did finally manage to set the fuses but get weird errors when I try to flash the application and have to set the fuses again
[15:36] <LIERO> I did short jp3 on the usbasp as SA6BSS-Mike suggested which let me set the fuses in the first place
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[16:17] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03VE3KCL-15 after 036 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VE3KCL-15
[16:20] <SA6BSS-Mike> LIERO: you are not using my Boards.txt ?
[16:20] <SA6BSS-Mike> glad lowering the speed sorted things
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[16:42] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SQ3XBD-4FSK after 035 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SQ3XBD-4FSK
[16:54] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03W2KGY-12 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W2KGY-12
[17:36] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SQ6NEI-4FSK after 037 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SQ6NEI-4FSK
[17:44] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03NC4ES-12 after 0316 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=NC4ES-12
[17:46] <LIERO> SA6BSS-Mike, I wasn't
[17:46] <LIERO> i copy/pasted to the boards file from the ict archive
[17:47] <SA6BSS-Mike> then if I understand it you used some nano or pro mini board, then it sets the fues every time you flag the ino
[17:47] <LIERO> anyway, can't get the usbasp running at all now, not sure if I fried something.. will start from scratch tomorrow
[17:47] <LIERO> ah
[17:47] <SA6BSS-Mike> backupup your boards file if you made adjustemnts to it and drop min in instead
[17:50] <LIERO> what board am I supposed to use from your file?
[17:51] <SA6BSS-Mike> what speed? 2?
[17:51] <LIERO> i have the 4mhz resonator mounted
[17:52] <SA6BSS-Mike> then // mark any prescler in void setup
[17:52] <SA6BSS-Mike> choose 4mhz board
[17:52] <SA6BSS-Mike> and make sure wspr_ctc is set to 4Mhz value
[17:53] <SA6BSS-Mike> I use a divide by 2 so I run my board at 2Mhz with 4Mhz xo
[17:53] <SA6BSS-Mike> 1Mhz works fine as well
[17:53] <SA6BSS-Mike> divide by 4 then
[17:54] <SA6BSS-Mike> choose correct board from "boards" and set ctc value to the speed you set
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[17:55] <LIERO> there is neither in the oscillator file
[17:55] <SA6BSS-Mike> so, in short, 3 things have to corsponds for the fw to work , boards, prescaler and ctc value
[17:55] <SA6BSS-Mike> ah, now Im talking about the full fw
[17:55] <SA6BSS-Mike> the oscillator ino runs with whatever you set, just set the correct xo speed
[17:56] <SA6BSS-Mike> I use 26Mhz so thats probably set in the ino
[17:56] <SA6BSS-Mike> if you have other speed set that
[17:56] <SA6BSS-Mike> **correct tcxo for 5351
[17:56] <SA6BSS-Mike> speed
[17:56] <LIERO> yeah I set it to 24MHz
[17:57] <LIERO> usbasp isn't talking to the mcu at all
[17:57] <SA6BSS-Mike> ah, har to tell then
[17:58] <LIERO> I'm done, will try again tomorrow
[17:58] <SA6BSS-Mike> try avrdudess and see if it can detect it
[17:58] <SA6BSS-Mike> it saturday evenig :)
[17:59] <SA6BSS-Mike> Il be in here tomorrow as well
[17:59] <PE2BZ> Maybe actually measure the DC voltage which goes to the Atmel with everything connected ?
[18:00] <SA6BSS-Mike> if the mcu does not corspomd it sound like a fuse setting gone wrong
[18:00] <SA6BSS-Mike> try any other arduino boards you have to see that the programmer works as intended
[18:01] <SA6BSS-Mike> like a nano or pro mini or something similar
[18:01] <SA6BSS-Mike> anyting with a 328 onboard
[18:07] <LIERO> I'll try on another chip
[18:08] <LIERO> only the chip and resonator this time
[18:11] <SA6BSS-Mike> rr
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[18:27] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP6QKM-12 after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP6QKM-12
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[22:46] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KB9RKU_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KB9RKU_chase
[22:59] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03N0PPP-4 after 0312 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N0PPP-4
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[23:28] <bwyatt> I am interested in K6rpt-1 and its present location.  Is there a place I can go to track this balloon?
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[23:49] <Darkside> bwyatt: is this a recent launch?
[23:50] <bwyatt> I believe it was back in late 2020.
[23:50] <g7gpr> https://tracker.habhub.org/#!mt=roadmap&mz=3&qm=All&f=K6RPT-1&q=k6rpt-1
[23:51] <Darkside> oh
[23:52] <Darkside> there ya go
[23:52] <g7gpr> 6d old.
[23:52] <Darkside> ahh it was a TTN tracker
[23:52] <bwyatt> Thank you g7gpr, I have been to that site and have seen no movement
[23:53] <Darkside> bwyatt: in which case it probably has either stopped transmitting, or hasnt been in range of a gateway
[23:54] <bwyatt> Ok,  I am very new to this site.  I have done several local balloon launches, lasting a few hours and traveling maybe 100 miles or less.
[23:55] <g7gpr> You are an expert!
[23:55] <Darkside> yeah, these long duration balloons are a different level of difficulty in some respects
[23:55] <bwyatt> no, no, no only an amatuer....lol
[23:56] <Darkside> need to make a tracker which is extremely light, functions off almost zero power budget, and gets a signal out to somwhere useful
[23:56] <Darkside> for our up/down flights we have a lot more flexibility in what we can do
[23:57] <g7gpr> Good luck in your search.
[23:58] <bwyatt> It has been a number of years since we launched a balloon but, there is starting to be some interest.  I think the arduino/raspberryPi has opened to way to more fun.
[23:58] <bwyatt> Thank you g7gpr
[23:58] <Darkside> yeah... theres a lot more that can be done now
[23:59] <Darkside> transmitting images from balloon flights is the norm in the UK and many places now
[23:59] <Darkside> and video is getting somewhat easier too
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