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[02:32] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SSTAR0426 after 037 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SSTAR0426
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[04:06] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VK5LJG-4FSK - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VK5LJG-4FSK
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[04:13] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03LY1BWB-12 after 033 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=LY1BWB-12
[04:18] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03N0PPP-4 after 0313 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N0PPP-4
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[05:08] <SA6BSS-Mike1> ly2en: gm, its probably the tx from the board thats in my 20m waterfall, not mucj else ther
[05:09] <SA6BSS-Mike1> quite week signal for being in los and its a bit out of freq so I have adjusted the rx to bring it in to wspr bandpass
[05:09] <SA6BSS-Mike1> still realy low solarangle so I see its a bit wobly in freq and last tx died in mid tx
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[05:55] <ly2en> SA6BSS-Mike1: interestingly, no more APRS. Have you checked for more WSPR signals on 20m ?
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[06:04] <SA6BSS-Mike1> yes, its there
[06:08] <SA6BSS-Mike1> got it on aprs as well
[06:08] <SA6BSS-Mike1> shouls upadate shortly
[06:10] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KM4ZIA-3 after 0313 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KM4ZIA-3
[06:27] <ly2en> aha, there was a silence for one hour
[06:31] <SA6BSS-Mike1> yeah, and now its silent again :)
[06:31] <SA6BSS-Mike1> ah, aprs updated
[06:31] <SA6BSS-Mike1> no wspr tx
[06:31] <ly2en> it's rebooting
[06:32] <ly2en> at 08:29 tx count was 2
[06:32] <ly2en> but it's fine I guess
[06:33] <SA6BSS-Mike1> yeah, solar isnt that hight yest
[06:34] <SA6BSS-Mike1> impresevly the first aprs came through at 4-5° solar
[06:34] <SA6BSS-Mike1> here we, new wspr on the way
[06:34] <SA6BSS-Mike1> I have a kiwi runinng here http://178.174.177.76:8073/
[06:34] <ly2en> going south now, maybe will charge up a bit. the Baltic sea will kick it back to the north
[06:35] <SA6BSS-Mike1> the solar gaining alt fast now
[06:35] <SA6BSS-Mike1> every 10min 1.5°
[06:36] <SA6BSS-Mike1> died mid sentence
[06:36] <SA6BSS-Mike1> ha, the kiwi picked it up
[06:37] <SA6BSS-Mike1> have the kiwi (Flydog sdr) runing on 160 80 60 40 30 20 24/7 on dual active loop
[06:37] <ly2en> i saw it in other areas having hard time to produce a good wspr signal until noon, alot of energy is given to APRS in areas with no coverage
[06:37] <ly2en> SA6BSS-Mike1: i'll try your kiwi now :)
[06:37] <SA6BSS-Mike1> thumbup
[06:39] <SA6BSS-Mike1> to clarify, the flydog sdr is runinig on those band decoding wspr
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[06:40] <ly2en> with 40 days+ floating and closing down the 3rd lap around the northern hemisphere, I think LY1BWB-12 is a success, in terms of what you can buy on the shelf and put together to fly
[06:40] <ly2en> I'm waiting until it pops so I can fly a SA6BSS with the same call sign :)
[06:40] <SA6BSS-Mike1> its been up for quite long considering it beaing a "heavy" payload
[06:40] <SA6BSS-Mike1> Cool!
[06:41] <ly2en> yep super heavy, could have been at 13km if it was 5-7 grams
[06:41] <ly2en> now its 21 and holding steady at 11.5
[06:41] <SA6BSS-Mike1> yep, you see the ict-6 on the map, its under a sbs-13 with a 5 gram payload
[06:43] <SA6BSS-Mike1> bought some balloon film from Fluffys page , will try it out as soon as ther is abreak in weather
[06:43] <SA6BSS-Mike1> https://imgur.com/a/51waMi5
[06:44] <ly2en> cool, how UV resistant is that ?
[06:44] <SA6BSS-Mike1> "should" float 12500-12800m
[06:44] <ly2en> one or two stacked?
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[06:44] <SA6BSS-Mike1> just as good as any other Nylon film I guess
[06:44] <SA6BSS-Mike1> one
[06:44] <SA6BSS-Mike1> its aroud 320liters
[06:45] <SM0ULC-David> hi guys!
[06:46] <SA6BSS-Mike1> hi David
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[06:50] <ly2en> SA6BSS-Mike1: I have a LOT of chinese 36" left, based on the current groups.io discussions those are more promising than I've thought
[06:51] <SA6BSS-Mike1> yeah, they can work well in dual balloon configuration
[06:51] <SA6BSS-Mike1> Dave have been up over 120 days nowgoing on its 11th lap with 2 of them
[06:51] <ly2en> I think 8 grams of free lift is too much for heavy payloads
[06:52] <ly2en> but with 5g + ict it should be perfect
[06:52] <ly2en> 20g payload + 8g free lift brings you to 8km
[06:52] <SA6BSS-Mike1> also condier he is using H2
[06:52] <SA6BSS-Mike1> are you going to fly a brick ? :)
[06:52] <ly2en> yes and I have access to pure H2 too, if not, plenty of vendors selling
[06:52] <ly2en> SA6BSS-Mike1: I still have two LightAPRS-w and one simple LightAPRS
[06:53] <ly2en> not super interested in flying those but
[06:53] <LIERO> will helium really leak?
[06:53] <SA6BSS-Mike1> "my" board should get you in 6 gram MAX weight all included
[06:53] <LIERO> I don´t have easy access to hydrogen atm..
[06:53] <SA6BSS-Mike1> Im only using He
[06:53] <ly2en> SA6BSS-Mike1: your's is priority, if I'm too lazy, I will just hang a brick :)
[06:53] <SA6BSS-Mike1> :)
[06:53] <ly2en> LIERO: plenty of hydrogen vendors selling 10m2 for 60 euros in EU
[06:54] <ly2en> i just checked locally, the guy does even deliver you that to your door
[06:54] <ly2en> just bear safety
[06:54] <LIERO> the vendors here don't want to fill small bottles, so I have to spend like 150-200¬ for a bottle
[06:54] <SA6BSS-Mike1> He is smaller and will fuse theough the balloon envelope faster then H2 but thats if you managet to stay up for several moth, only then it becomes siginifcant
[06:54] <LIERO> but I can get a small helium bottle for 35¬
[06:54] <LIERO> also - safety, etc
[06:55] <LIERO> SA6BSS-Mike1, oh okay, so nothing dramatic
[06:56] <SA6BSS-Mike1> no, im on He :) only use that, working fine
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[07:05] <ly2en> LIERO: I do not recommend the small helium for 35 euros, it's around 80-90% purity, so you're losing 10%
[07:05] <SA6BSS-Mike1> I bought a 5 liter Albee that I can trade in for a full , just liek a sodastream bottle
[07:06] <SA6BSS-Mike1> its about 70Eiro for a refill
[07:06] <SA6BSS-Mike1> Euro
[07:07] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KK6BJ-15 after 0312 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KK6BJ-15
[07:13] <LIERO> ly2en, I called the company, they said it´s 99% technical
[07:14] <LIERO> could be lying, don't know
[07:15] <SA6BSS-Mike1> if you buy something like this https://www.kjell.com/se/produkter/hem-fritid/party-karaoke/ballonger/heliumtank-04-m-p18044?gclid=Cj0KCQjwvYSEBhDjARIsAJMn0liwq-sNK2k-rvUdxR6Vgkp9VzobxaTLUQFaEcGoA61QVv--Zqpg_REaAk9bEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds
[07:15] <SA6BSS-Mike1> its usually mixed with air, otherwise its probably more then 99% oure
[07:16] <SA6BSS-Mike1> they wont lie about this, that would be a saftey issue
[07:16] <PE2BZ> it' s not 80-90 percent I am quite sure about that. my " dealers" also mention 98 - 99 percent purity. I did fly 6 10 gram floaters from one 0,42 m3 tank and found no reason to think the purity was less. All went up to approx the estimated altitude
[07:18] <PE2BZ> SA6BSS-Mike1, those are the ones I use for home launches indeed
[07:18] <SA6BSS-Mike1> me to for the first 20 missions or so
[07:18] <SA6BSS-Mike1> did not notice any much difference in alt though switching to the other type
[07:19] <PE2BZ> We had one " professional cilinder" with 2 m3 HE at 20 bar for which we had to pay over 400 Euros. And our regulator did not fit. That was medical purity 99,9 and was returned ;-)
[07:19] <PE2BZ> How many Euro is 500 Kr ?
[07:19] <PE2BZ> I know, google knows ;-)
[07:20] <SA6BSS-Mike1> 50
[07:20] <PE2BZ> Ouch.
[07:20] <PE2BZ> I tend to get 2 of them for about 7 Euro more
[07:22] <PE2BZ> I might have missed the link between HE and the bitcoin....
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[07:25] <PE2BZ> SA6BSS-Mike1, https://www.bol.com/nl/p/heliumtank-voor-50-ballonnen/9200000117151304/?Referrer=ADVNLGOO002036-G-114145252269-S-1061643190991-9200000117151304&gclid=Cj0KCQjwvYSEBhDjARIsAJMn0lgmRgMeU7fMHwqL3oUENqHsCx7q2CHepm7Oc4bac5oShtNvXN7wfBAaAk7YEALw_wcB
[07:25] <PE2BZ> 32 Euro for one.
[07:27] <ly2en> I will bet 60 euros on compressed hydrogen instead
[07:28] <PE2BZ> I am not allowed to store that on the dedault launch location at work. And have to fill outside and have fire equipment ready. I'll stick to the HE ;-)
[07:31] <SA6BSS-Mike1> last I heard the He had gone up quite significantly
[07:32] <SA6BSS-Mike1> but didnt reflect tht bad on last refill
[07:32] <SA6BSS-Mike1> it got a 5Euros or so more expensife for the refill iirc
[07:32] <LIERO> still 60¬/m2 here
[07:32] <LIERO> m3*
[07:32] <PE2BZ> https://www.bubblexl.com/nederlands/helium/
[07:33] <PE2BZ> I like the X30s but not the weekly rent 10 Euro if we do one year with 7.8 m3 ,,,,
[07:34] <SA6BSS-Mike1> its the rent that makes many of the options a no go
[07:36] <PE2BZ> I just asked them for an offer with 1 year rent at strong reduced price :-)
[07:36] <PE2BZ> Could the bottle cost anything more as 150 Euro ?
[07:37] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03DELTA7-R after 0313 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DELTA7-R
[07:40] <PE2BZ> I just ordered 2 x 0,42 m3 for a total of 53 Euro. Just in case it gets even more expensive.
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[07:48] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03K4UAH-5 after 0314 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=K4UAH-5
[07:50] <ly2en> interestingly if the LY1BWB-12 balloon will come back to Lithuania later today
[07:50] <ly2en> looks like the winds are pushing it more south as expected
[07:50] <ly2en> I've thought it's going to go over Stockholm but now heading Norrkoping
[07:55] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP6QKM-4FSK after 0313 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP6QKM-4FSK
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[10:04] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03hera-four-test - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=hera-four-test
[10:10] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SITS-JS4 after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SITS-JS4
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[11:28] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03EVA1 after 0320 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=EVA1
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[11:32] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03N4XWC-1 after 0312 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1
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[12:10] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KN4ZEQ-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KN4ZEQ-11
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[13:01] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03VE3KCL-17 after 0320 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VE3KCL-17
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[13:21] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BZ4a after 0320 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BZ4a
[13:55] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KN4ZEQ-7 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KN4ZEQ-7
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[14:25] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03TA1BFD-1 after 038 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=TA1BFD-1
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[15:02] <kaasci> hi
[15:11] <kaasci> So, I'm with a small group and we're thinking of doing a couple balloon launches over the summer. Nothing big, a Raspberry Pi Zero hooked upto a camera and a small array of sensors (along with a seperate GPS tracker for ground recover) and a few little patches or something as a flight souviner for the team.
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[16:07] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03ICT6 after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ICT6
[16:34] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03hera-four-test after 037 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=hera-four-test
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[17:06] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03WB6TOU-1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WB6TOU-1
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[17:30] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03K4UAH-6 after 0313 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=K4UAH-6
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[18:07] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP6QKM-12 after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP6QKM-12
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[18:46] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HAPROS after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HAPROS
[18:46] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Hapros_Chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Hapros_Chase
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[19:08] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KB9RKU_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KB9RKU_chase
[19:25] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03NC4ES-12 after 0315 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=NC4ES-12
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[23:25] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03N4XWC-1 after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1
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