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[00:30] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N2NXZ_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N2NXZ_chase
[00:37] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VK5QI-TEST_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VK5QI-TEST_chase
[01:02] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N9JWI_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N9JWI_chase
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[01:36] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VK5QI-9_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VK5QI-9_chase
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[04:31] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KM4ZIA-3 after 0315 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KM4ZIA-3
[05:03] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KG7KYW-2 after 0314 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KG7KYW-2
[05:07] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03K4UAH-5 after 0316 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=K4UAH-5
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[05:35] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03IT9YBG-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IT9YBG-11
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[06:17] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03K6STS-11 after 0315 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=K6STS-11
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[06:27] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03ICT6 after 0321 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ICT6
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[06:50] <tachyon96> Dear all. Would it be possible to launch a very small rocket (kno3+sucrose or HHO propelled) into space and to the moon from a high altitude baloon? A sort of rockoon at low cost? Which mean of very long distance  communication would you use to check position of the rocket's payload (a small webcam with solar wind sails for propulsion) and control
[06:50] <tachyon96> it? Thanks in advance for tips ;)
[06:56] <SA6BSS-Mike1> so you want to lift a rocket 30km to get to 384 400 km (Moon) skip the balloon
[06:57] <SA6BSS-Mike1> also, consider , there is one thing getting to space (100km) one thing to stay there and or escape earth gravitaion pull
[07:03] <tachyon96> Hi, thanks. Sure it is difficult at low price and with home made components but tech available to household experimenters had increased considerably in the last decades. So do you think it is only extremely difficult or impossible?
[07:07] <tachyon96> Does a pressure controlled baloon exist in order to regulate lifting volume and increase the max burst altitude? If filled with H2, this could ve even used as propellant for the rocket in order to reduce weight
[07:07] <eor> do you have any idea what amount of fuel that is going to require
[07:08] <eor> I don't think any conceivable balloon can really help you escape the fact that you need massive amounts of H2 simply to lift those massive amounts of H2
[07:11] <tachyon96> I think a lot but I did not do the math yet. A delta v of about 5000 m/s will be probably  required to reach the closer Lagrangian stable point. The higher the baloon can go the lower the deltav required. But I do not know how high it can go
[07:12] <tachyon96> Sure. The omnipresent tradeoff of physics :(
[07:17] <tachyon96> Even if the idea was to use the H2 first ad bouncy gas and then, after max height us reached, depressurize it from the balloon into the rocket as propellant.
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[08:50] <Darkside> aha
[08:50] <Darkside> OZ1SKY_Brian: check out the rx callsign list on https://v2.sondehub.org/#!mt=roadmap&mz=5&qm=3_hours&f=17008547
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[09:57] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Darkside Hi, ive sent you the log file
[09:57] <Darkside> cheers OZ1SKY_Brian
[09:58] <OZ1SKY_Brian> oh cool a db meter
[09:58] <OZ1SKY_Brian> very nice
[10:03] <Darkside> issue is the db values from the DFM sondes seem a bit weird
[10:04] <Darkside> sent you an email
[10:04] <OZ1SKY_Brian> yes i see in the logfile some er very low <5db
[10:04] <OZ1SKY_Brian> looking
[10:05] <OZ1SKY_Brian> roger, will enable when i see a DFM
[10:05] <Darkside> cheers
[10:05] <Darkside> raw data will help a lot
[10:06] <OZ1SKY_Brian> its the save_decode_iq = False right?
[10:07] <Darkside> yep
[10:07] <OZ1SKY_Brian> and a file pr sdr?
[10:07] <Darkside> yep
[10:08] <Darkside> which will get overwritten
[10:08] <OZ1SKY_Brian> R, lets see if any goes up at 12z
[10:08] <Darkside> its the ones really far away thats interesting
[10:08] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ah wait there is one going up now in DE
[10:08] <OZ1SKY_Brian> let me enable
[10:10] <OZ1SKY_Brian> https://v2.sondehub.org/#!mt=roadmap&mz=5&qm=1_hour&f=17009178
[10:10] <OZ1SKY_Brian> should be in range soon
[10:11] <OZ1SKY_Brian> got it
[10:11] <OZ1SKY_Brian> where is the file stored, in log?
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[10:12] <Darkside> nah
[10:12] <Darkside> in auto_rx
[10:12] <Darkside> ok yep this will be a good test
[10:12] <OZ1SKY_Brian> hm not seeing it
[10:12] <Darkside> hmm
[10:13] <OZ1SKY_Brian> only see log and station.cfg in that dir
[10:13] <Darkside> oh hmm are you running under docker?
[10:13] <OZ1SKY_Brian> yes
[10:13] <Darkside> ohhhhhh
[10:13] <Darkside> uhm
[10:13] <Darkside> shit
[10:13] <Darkside> need to figure out how to get files out of the docker isntane
[10:14] <OZ1SKY_Brian> oh ok, i just did what you recomended in the installation of 1.5.1 :-)
[10:14] <Darkside> thats ok
[10:14] <Darkside> just need to figure out how to extract a file from within the container :-)
[10:15] <Darkside> this recording should be a good test
[10:15] <Darkside> already seeing really weird SNRs
[10:15] <OZ1SKY_Brian> great
[10:15] <Darkside> i think its just fading
[10:16] <OZ1SKY_Brian> 2db, thats way to low for a decode
[10:16] <Darkside> docker cp radiosonde_auto_rx:/opt/auto_rx/decode_IQ_00000005.bin ~/
[10:16] <Darkside> try that
[10:17] <OZ1SKY_Brian> from anywhere or ?=
[10:18] <Darkside> on the raspberry pi
[10:18] <Darkside> it should copy the file out of the docker container into your home dir
[10:19] <OZ1SKY_Brian> it did :-)
[10:19] <OZ1SKY_Brian> let me email it now to see if ti works and i can pull again when the sonde is gone
[10:19] <Darkside> ok
[10:19] <Darkside> that sample is probably enough for me to figure out whats goin gon
[10:21] <OZ1SKY_Brian> https://easyupload.io/9nrne0
[10:22] <OZ1SKY_Brian> too big for email :-)
[10:22] <Darkside> perfect
[10:23] <Darkside> yup, fading
[10:24] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ok good to know
[10:24] <OZ1SKY_Brian> so i can disaable the iq ?
[10:24] <Darkside> https://imgur.com/soiEhUq
[10:24] <Darkside> yep
[10:24] <OZ1SKY_Brian> r
[10:24] <Darkside> ill fix it in 1.52
[10:24] <Darkside> 1.5.2*
[10:31] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BZ4a after 0320 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BZ4a
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[11:14] <YO3ICT> Hi. May I request Hysplit for ICT6? Thank you
[11:35] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03FDH after 039 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=FDH
[11:43] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N9JWI_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N9JWI_chase
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[12:23] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03N4XWC-1 after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1
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[12:50] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KMP56_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KMP56_chase
[12:55] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03VE3KCL-17 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VE3KCL-17
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[13:05] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03AE0SS-13 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=AE0SS-13
[13:05] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KC0D-14 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KC0D-14
[13:05] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KO4BGB-10 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KO4BGB-10
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[13:20] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03N0PPP-4 after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N0PPP-4
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[14:09] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BZ3a - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BZ3a
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[14:31] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N8VRN - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N8VRN
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[14:59] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03K1AMO - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=K1AMO
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[17:19] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03K4UAH-6 after 0314 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=K4UAH-6
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[18:35] <KO4LUV> print(z)
[18:35] <KO4LUV> Hello, I am planning on launching a hab on Tuesday with an APRS tracker. How can I register my balloon to habhub to predict its flight?
[18:35] <SA6BSS-Mike> two things..
[18:36] <SA6BSS-Mike> it will be auto imorted to habhub whn it reaching 2000m
[18:36] <SA6BSS-Mike> *imported
[18:36] <SA6BSS-Mike> all you have to do then is to go to #habhub irc channel and ask for hysplit to be aded
[18:37] <SA6BSS-Mike> if you want to have the balloon to show from launch on habhub go to #habhub and ask for it to be aded as
[18:38] <SA6BSS-Mike> paste the call it will use
[18:39] <SA6BSS-Mike> thats three things , but who's counting ;)
[18:42] <KO4LUV> Great! Thank you for your help. Although whenever I try to send a message in habhub, I receive an error message "Cannot send to nick/channel." Do you know why this would happen?
[18:42] <SA6BSS-Mike> you have to register...hang on
[18:43] <SA6BSS-Mike> https://freenode.net/kb/answer/registration
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[18:48] <KO4LUV> Thank you!
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[19:00] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SQ3PMN - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SQ3PMN
[19:24] <ly2en> https://radiosonde.vhf.lt/
[19:24] <ly2en> all our rx logs automatically placed here
[19:26] <OZ1SKY_Brian> hi from what rx station?
[19:27] <ON3JT> Vilnius :-) Just type vhf.lt
[19:27] <OZ1SKY_Brian> i mean what callsign
[19:27] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ly1bwb?
[19:27] <ON3JT> Ah, not showing, my bad
[19:28] <OZ1SKY_Brian> or ly3ff?
[19:30] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ah ok i got it now :-)
[19:30] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ly2en you should realy update, version 1.2.3 is VERY old
[19:33] <OZ1SKY_Brian> DFM upload is suspended from old versions and Russian MRZ sondes not support, among lots of other new stuff in newer version
[19:34] <ON3JT> Seems LY1BWB-10
[19:34] <OZ1SKY_Brian> yes
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[20:24] <ly2en> yes LY1BWB-10
[20:27] <ly2en> it's the docker image from pmta/radiosonde
[20:28] <ly2en> http://sdr.vhf.lt:8073/
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[20:40] <ly2en> built v1.5.1 for myself: https://hub.docker.com/r/ly2en/radiosonde
[20:47] <ly2en> but probably same is over there: ghcr.io/projecthorus/radiosonde_auto_rx:latest
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[20:52] <OZ1SKY_Brian> im using the orginal 1.5.1
[20:53] <ly2en> upgraded to 1.5.1 now
[20:53] <ly2en> 23:28 < ly2en> http://sdr.vhf.lt:8073/
[20:54] <OZ1SKY_Brian> lets see if it picks up the MRZ from kaliningrad then
[20:54] <ON3JT> I think you need to upgrade the socket.io also?
[20:55] <ly2en> somebody told me few weeks back we should aim at Minsk :)
[20:55] <OZ1SKY_Brian> oh yes that too
[20:55] <OZ1SKY_Brian> but i think i saw a RS41 in belarus, so they might use that there
[20:55] <ON3JT> Current task keeps showing "???"
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[20:56] <ly2en> ON3JT: just hit ctrl+r
[20:56] <ly2en> https://pasteboard.co/JWJzseY.png\
[20:56] <OZ1SKY_Brian> is your can range 400-405.2 ?
[20:56] <ly2en> https://pasteboard.co/JWJzseY.png
[20:56] <OZ1SKY_Brian> scan range
[20:57] <ON3JT> ok thanks, :-)
[20:57] <ly2en> OZ1SKY_Brian: the antenna is tuned around the ham frequencies
[20:57] <OZ1SKY_Brian> no i mean in auto_rx
[20:58] <OZ1SKY_Brian> max/min freq
[20:58] <ly2en> ah let me check, it's probably the default
[20:59] <OZ1SKY_Brian> the default is 400-403 as i recall, but for Europe its 400-406
[21:00] <OZ1SKY_Brian> allthough ive set mine for 401-406 as ive never seen any below 401
[21:00] <ly2en> it's 400.1 - 405.2
[21:00] <OZ1SKY_Brian> strange
[21:01] <ly2en> my colleague narrowed it a bit down due to qrm
[21:01] <OZ1SKY_Brian> there are sondes up to 405.9
[21:01] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ah ok
[21:02] <OZ1SKY_Brian> yes seems you got alot of qrm there
[21:02] <ly2en> it's a busy roof, 12 story building, student dormitory
[21:04] <ly2en> will let it run for a while, also there's another station LY1WS-15
[21:04] <ly2en> https://aprs.fi/info/a/LY1WS-15
[21:05] <ly2en> Rs41Tracker Gate
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[21:12] <OZ1SKY_Brian> not sure if that will pick up a russian sonde
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[21:33] <Darkside> rs41tracker only does rs41s :P
[21:52] <OZ1SKY_Brian> sounds right with that name :-)
[21:52] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ok bedtime, gn
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[23:45] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03N4XWC-1 after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1
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