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[02:06] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Wa1ojn_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Wa1ojn_chase
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[02:22] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VK3JBM_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VK3JBM_chase
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[04:38] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Ea7knn_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Ea7knn_chase
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[05:57] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03ICT6 after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ICT6
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[08:42] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03DH3SUP-4FSK after 0317 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DH3SUP-4FSK
[08:57] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SP6QKM-4FSK - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP6QKM-4FSK
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[09:24] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BSS34 after 0315 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BSS34
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[11:35] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03N4XWC-1 after 0312 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1
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[11:39] <PB0AHX> GM all
[11:40] <PB0AHX> /flights
[11:40] <SA6BSS-Mike1> !flights
[11:40] <SpacenearUS> 03SA6BSS-Mike1: Current flights: 03Balonowy Weekend SP6QKM 2021.03.05-aprs+rtty 10(23ab), 03Balonowy Weekend SP6QKM 2021.03.05-3 FSK 10(40b2), 03IDA-33 10(c1f1)
[11:41] <PB0AHX> tnx mike
[11:41] <SA6BSS-Mike1> IDA-33 Launch: Today at 15:00 UTC from Bützow, M-V, Germany
[11:42] <PB0AHX> u know freq for DH3SUP-4FSK ??
[11:42] <SA6BSS-Mike1> the standard freq
[11:42] <SA6BSS-Mike1> I gues
[11:43] <SA6BSS-Mike1> 434.660
[11:43] <SA6BSS-Mike1> all 4fsk is on that
[11:43] <PB0AHX> ok tnx maby later on screen here
[11:45] <SA6BSS-Mike1> looking a dh3sup, its going somewhat your direction
[11:46] <PB0AHX> he must up a bit for me than maby i have lucky
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[12:02] <PC4L> You can always listen to MRF68-4FSK Herman.. will be launched any minute now ;)
[12:05] <PB0AHX> pc4l goede middag Marcel ik ga het doen ook op 660 ?
[12:05] <PC4L> nee .675
[12:05] <PB0AHX> ok
[12:13] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03MRF68-4FSK after 034 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=MRF68-4FSK
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[12:22] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KW05PL - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KW05PL
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[12:42] <PB0AHX> !h
[12:45] <KevWal> As you an probably tell by the associated images, KW05PL is test GPS data (thanks Steve) :)
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[12:55] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SP6QKM - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP6QKM
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[13:21] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SP6QKM-12 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP6QKM-12
[13:25] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03VE3KCL-16 after 039 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VE3KCL-16
[13:25] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03VE3KCL-15 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VE3KCL-15
[13:28] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03VE3KCL-17 after 0319 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VE3KCL-17
[13:29] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N1agv_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N1agv_chase
[13:34] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VE3KCL-14 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VE3KCL-14
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[13:35] <DK6OV> Hi
[13:35] <DK6OV> What is the frequency of MRF68 ?
[13:36] <PE2BZ> 434.674 4fsk
[13:37] <PE2BZ> 10 dBm instead of the usual 13 dBm default setting
[13:38] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IDA-4FSK after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IDA-4FSK
[13:38] <DK6OV> PE2BZ Thank you Ben.
[13:39] <DK6OV> Can not read the signal until now.
[13:39] <DK6OV> Oh, just the first decode now!
[13:39] <PE2BZ> :-)
[13:40] <PE2BZ> 120 cm latex balloon, 155 gram, unknown max altitude, rs41 in bubble foil
[13:43] <DK6OV> we will see :-)
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[13:56] <ON3JT_Joost> I'll wait... too far away at the moment and lot's of (weather) devices on that frequency.
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[14:21] <ON3JT_Joost> I can hear the 4fsk audio, but it is burried in the other signals
[14:24] <PC4L> DK6OV what´s the problem on SUP Dieter?!
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[14:28] <DK6OV> PC4L: I can only decode a package every few minutes. he elevation is still very small (0.9°) and I have some handicap to the west.
[14:32] <PC4L> no other listners?!
[14:44] <PC4L> are you also logged in on websdr austria?! :)
[14:59] <DK6OV> No, I am not on an WEBSDR.
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[15:11] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03W3UAV-15 after 0321 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W3UAV-15
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[15:25] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DC2EH-6 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DC2EH-6
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[16:31] <KevWal> Hi All, I am seeing some empty returns from ssdv.habhub.org on occasions when I am checking for missing ssdv packets.
[16:31] <KevWal> Normally I ask for a URL like this:  http://ssdv.habhub.org/api/v0/images?callsign=KW05PL&from=2021-03-05T16:19:51Z&missing_packets=true
[16:32] <KevWal> and get this sort of response "[{'type': 'image', 'id': 199075, 'callsign': 'KW05PL', 'image_id': 40,
[16:32] <KevWal> 'width': 1024, 'height': 768, 'subsampling': '2x2', 'quality': 4,
[16:32] <KevWal> 'packet_type': 0, 'packets_received': 84, 'packets_missing': 3,
[16:32] <KevWal> 'last_packet': 86, 'received_eoi': False, 'created':
[16:32] <KevWal> '2021-03-05T16:20:34Z', 'updated': '2021-03-05T16:24:56Z', 'received_by':
[16:32] <KevWal> ['G7PMO_PiRx'], 'image_href':
[16:32] <KevWal> 'http://ssdv.habhub.org/images/2021/03/05/2021-03-05--16-20-34-KW05PL-309A3.jpeg?u=84',
[16:32] <KevWal> 'data_href':
[16:32] <KevWal> 'http://ssdv.habhub.org/images/2021/03/05/2021-03-05--16-20-34-KW05PL-309A3.bin?u=84',
[16:32] <KevWal> 'missing_packets': [65, 68, 71]}]"
[16:32] <KevWal> Sorry that didnt paste well!
[16:32] <daveake> @fsphil ^^
[16:32] <daveake> Try pastebin next time ? :)
[16:33] <KevWal> but a few occasions in a row I keep getting empty responses.  Will paste to pastebin now :)
[16:33] <daveake> btw I'm looking at having a centralised missing-packet-lookup where the uplink packet is sent via the most appropriate gateway
[16:35] <daveake> Also be able to do commanded uplinks from an app, so e.g. you could be chasing the balloon but can't get an uplink to work (e.g. because you're below it) so in the app you choose which listener/transceiver to send it via
[16:35] <KevWal> https://pastebin.com/204DVJAQ
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[16:36] <KevWal> @daveake That would be great.  I have been playing with that pits code a little recently, just to enable uplink of a callsign and telemetry back down of frequency error, and callsign of last packet
[16:38] <daveake> If you have AFC enabled in the receiver, it will glue itself to the tracker anyway, so the frequency error isn't interesting
[16:38] <daveake> Besides, the freq error is shown in the apps
[16:38] <KevWal> btw I think I may have found a bug in your pits frequency error code -
[16:38] <KevWal>         // return - ((double)Temp * (1<<24) / 32000000.0) * (BandwidthInKHz(Channel) / 500.0); // Was dividing by tx bandwidth not rx bandwidth?
[16:38] <KevWal>         return - ((double)Temp * (1<<24) / 32000000.0) * (LoRaModes[Config.LoRaDevices[Channel].UplinkMode].Bandwidth / 500.0);
[16:39] <KevWal> Agreed, but if using the same module to rx as tx only I think?
[16:40] <daveake> Well, if the Tx module gets a message sent then job jobbed; if it fails then the freq error isn't accurate (LoRa freq errors only work if packet got received OK)
[16:40] <daveake> Re the freq erro - put that in as a github issue plz and I'll take a look
[16:41] <KevWal> Yup, understood, I work on the basis that all information is interesting at sometime:)   But anyway - real point was uplink callsign and send it back again, so when Ben and I are both sending packets we know who's it getting to the balloon :)
[16:41] <daveake> If the separate module is so you can add a PA, then wind up the power, use a wider bandwidth and you won't care about the freq offset
[16:42] <KevWal> Will do
[16:42] <daveake> OK so having a "last received from" field would be useful
[16:42] <KevWal> I have implemented it, Ben is testing for me, so can do a pull request for that soon to see if you like it...
[16:42] <daveake> Please
[16:43] <daveake> Make sure it's turn on-and-off-able
[16:43] <daveake> Don't want people complaining about a new field popping into the telemetry and breaking their payload doc if they update
[16:43] <KevWal> It is, coded as an Extrafield the same as others
[16:44] <daveake> great
[16:44] <daveake> On flextrak (Pi + AVR) there's a custom field list which makes this stuff simpler
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[16:49] <KevWal> Flextrak is out of my budget for something I am sending into the sky right now unfortunately :)
[16:50] <daveake> Not selling just saying :)
[16:52] <KevWal> :)
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[16:54] <KevWal> On a different topic, I seem to recall something about a maximum number of packets in an SSDV image, but cant find it now, do you know how many it is to hand?
[16:55] <KevWal> Doh, found it, 4096
[16:56] <KevWal> that's quite a lot :)
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[17:17] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SITS-JS4 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SITS-JS4
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[17:41] <KevWal> I'm still getting occasional empty packets from ssdv.habhub when I ask for missing ssdv packets info.  I ask every min, and the following were empty: 16:20 to 16:22, 16:40, 16:49, 16:55, 17.01, 17:18 to 17:20
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[17:41] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD0ZJV_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD0ZJV_chase
[17:41] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD0ZJV-1_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD0ZJV-1_chase
[17:42] <PE1PSI> I received a GPS today and managed to get it to work with chase mapper. I find the car pretty nervous and the speed keeps going up and down. It even shows around 50 kph now and then. Is this normal behaviour?
[17:46] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03JOALTL - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=JOALTL
[17:52] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SITS-JS3 after 033 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SITS-JS3
[17:56] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03K4UAH-5 after 0314 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=K4UAH-5
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[18:27] <PE2BZ> Chrischan3, bist du Da ?
[18:27] <Chrischan3> Ja Hier! (;
[18:28] <PE2BZ> Guteanbend :-)
[18:28] <Chrischan3> Hallo :D
[18:28] <PE2BZ> Do you expect a 4fsk payload possibly flying near Ukrain ?
[18:29] <PE2BZ> Close to Kiev ? it does not decode , it´s a bit low in frequency 434.646 but sounds a bit like 4fsk
[18:33] <Chrischan3> I have to look at the last few flights, but I don't think Kiev was there
[18:38] <Chrischan3> I have something! how can I best link files here?
[18:39] <fsphil> KevWal: when you say empty packets, what do you mean?
[18:40] <PE2BZ> Chrischan3, what type of file ?
[18:40] <Chrischan3> kml
[18:41] <Chrischan3> https://1drv.ms/u/s!Av9PFEeuJmy22ACXORHUUkCY1bPr?e=ei4UIB
[18:41] <Chrischan3> if you widen the trajectory, it could get there
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[18:46] <Chrischan3> is it possible for you to record the signal or do you have a link to a websdr?
[18:48] <PE2BZ> It´s the openwebrx in Kiev, they changed channel 6 to ISM for us.
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[18:52] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03W5ACM-7 after 0314 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W5ACM-7
[18:53] <Chrischan3> Ok :) Just looked in my notes, during the flight the tension collapsed in the air, a find can only be a coincidence. I keep searching..
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[19:09] <Chrischan3> I think it is unlikely that it is one of my probes, the signal sends 10kHz too low. Thanks anyway for the tip, that is very attentive! :)
[19:10] <PE2BZ> Your welcome :-)
[19:11] <PE2BZ> I have to get confirmed the dongles are ppm corrected
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[20:17] <ON3JT_Joost> Empty battery for MRF68-4FSK? No signal since 10 minutes.
[20:18] <PC4L> yep :(
[20:19] <ON3JT_Joost> Anyway, nice tracking from 15:30 till 21:07, 120 km north, 246 km south of me.
[20:26] <PC4L> :thumbs up: well done.. now sit back, relax and enjoy your weekend ;)
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[20:28] <ON3JT_Joost> Thanks Marcel. The same for you.
[20:30] <buttim_> Does anyone notice something strange? https://radiosondy.info/sonde.php?sondenumber=R3951641
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[20:56] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03sammy6-ttn - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=sammy6-ttn
[21:00] <buttim_> seems like I'm the only one to find it strange :)
[21:00] <happysat> the track is strange ?
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[21:21] <buttim_> yep, in many ways
[21:21] <buttim_> only one receiving station
[21:21] <buttim_> nobody else is receiving it
[21:22] <buttim_> perfectly constant vertical speed (5m/s) and no other telemetry
[21:23] <buttim_> plus.... somebody found that sonde in 2020: https://iw1cgw.wordpress.com/2020/12/02/r3951641-cuneo/
[21:23] <buttim_> please confront the first part of the url with the receiving station, LOL
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[21:26] <happysat> maybe someone is reusing it
[21:26] <happysat> looks like it
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[21:41] <buttim__> sure, but polluting the radiosondy db at the same time it seems
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[21:53] <Darkside> 'polluting'
[21:54] <Darkside> i think they might be running a GPS simulator into it or something.. that ascent rate is way too consisdent
[21:55] <Darkside> odd
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[22:01] <happysat> Darkside im running the last beta of auto-rx can i enable both habhub uploaders at the same time, the v2 one?
[22:01] <happysat> and the 'old' one
[22:02] <Darkside> yes, they run in parallel automatically
[22:02] <happysat> okay and v2 is also going to the same site?
[22:02] <happysat> no new website
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[22:08] <Darkside> there will eventually be a replacement sondehub which will use the new db
[22:09] <Darkside> the API for the new DB is available already
[22:09] <happysat> ah cool hope it speed things up ;)
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[22:11] <happysat> i think the old uploader is complaining but the v2 does not
[22:11] <happysat> 2021-03-05 23:11:30,938 ERROR:Habitat - Error uploading to Habitat. Status Code: 200 {"message": "HabHub is currently under heavy load. You telemetry has been recorded in the SondeHub DB but not forwarded to HabHub. Please do not panic!."}.
[22:12] <happysat> thats he imet
[22:12] <Darkside> the old uploader is giving that error because we have rate limited uploads to habitat again
[22:12] <Darkside> because we're getting the time lags again during peak radiosonde time
[22:13] <happysat> ah yes..
[22:13] <Darkside> not sure what mwheeler set it to, i think its 45 seconds
[22:13] <Darkside> the sondehubv2 uploader uploads *every* position received
[22:13] <happysat> i have default 30 for the old one and 15 for v2
[22:13] <Darkside> it batches them up, gzips them, and uploads the batch every 15 seconds
[22:13] <Darkside> so as a result the new db has a lot more data
[22:14] <happysat> so i can better turn the old one off
[22:15] <Darkside> well im not sure the v2 data ends up in habitat, if you are just uploading that exclusively
[22:15] <Darkside> mwheeler can answer that
[22:15] <happysat> well lets see
[22:15] <Darkside> but they are currently driving
[22:16] <happysat> i can try on the imet and see on the website if i show up
[22:17] <Darkside> i suspect it wont
[22:17] <happysat> yes..
[22:17] <happysat> it sends but not on the map
[22:18] <Darkside> yep sounds about right
[22:18] <Darkside> leave both uploading for now
[22:19] <happysat> ok
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[23:03] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03N4XWC-1 after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1
[23:11] <mwheeler> v2 doesn't go to habitat
[23:12] <Darkside> aha
[23:12] <Darkside> thought so
[23:13] <Darkside> i figure that wuld be an extra level of pain to have to convert that dataset back into habitat format
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