highaltitude.log.20210304

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[01:57] <nigle> What is the current thinking about the best LoRa modules/chips to use for a receiving station for balloon tracking? I am after best performance rather than cost, but they all seem to be fairly cheap anyway.
[02:11] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KD2VGT-2 after 035 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD2VGT-2
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[05:56] <PE2BZ> nigle, I think the gain is in the antenna / filter / preamp setup. I find most of the board using the same chip(set) not to differ in sensitivity. Except for one model, the Ra-01 which appears to be 9 dB less sensitive AND 25 kHz offsett on all frequencies. That might however also be a different register approach for settings, 9dB is a lot.
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[06:05] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IDA-4FSK after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IDA-4FSK
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[07:41] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03mrf68_ttn - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=mrf68_ttn
[07:58] <SpacenearUS> New position from 034FSKTEST after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=4FSKTEST
[08:15] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N0CALL_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N0CALL_chase
[08:15] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03vk5ix_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=vk5ix_chase
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[10:28] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03F-80566_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=F-80566_chase
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[11:52] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03EVA_L - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=EVA_L
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[12:07] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BZ-CAM - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BZ-CAM
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[12:12] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03N4XWC-1 after 0312 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1
[12:14] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BSS34 after 0315 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BSS34
[12:17] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03ICT6 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ICT6
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[12:32] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PU5MLT-5_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PU5MLT-5_chase
[12:40] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03DH3SUP-4FSK after 037 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DH3SUP-4FSK
[12:41] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03EVA_L_LORA - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=EVA_L_LORA
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[13:27] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VE3KCL-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VE3KCL-11
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[13:59] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VE3KCL-17 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VE3KCL-17
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[14:08] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VE3KCL-15 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VE3KCL-15
[14:18] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03W3UAV-15 after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W3UAV-15
[15:08] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03Xtesto after 034 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Xtesto
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[15:48] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03W5KUB-25 after 033 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W5KUB-25
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[16:53] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VE3KCL-16 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VE3KCL-16
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[18:32] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03Xtestn after 034 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Xtestn
[18:32] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PA1SDB - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PA1SDB
[18:36] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03JOALTL - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=JOALTL
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[19:18] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Swallow_Chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Swallow_Chase
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[19:38] <Astrobiologist_> Hello, this must sound like a silly question but for payloads on spacenear.us how can I find their telemetry details such as frequency, mode (if Lora) etc?
[19:46] <PE2BZ> Usually there is no easy way to find out.
[19:46] <daveake> Hope that the details are in the payload doc
[19:46] <PE2BZ> If payloads get added to flight docs the rtty mode is shown
[19:47] <Astrobiologist_> OK I will have a look at habitat
[19:47] <PE2BZ> LoRa is not part of the choises for telemetry when setting up a payload doc
[19:47] <PE2BZ> Keep in mind not changing settings on existing payloads
[19:48] <PE2BZ> sometimes information is published on UKHAS and in dl-fldigi, all payloads, testing, looking for the payload name sometimes reveals some info too
[19:49] <SA6BSS-Mike1> also have a irc window open for habhub channel where most payloads are announced so the admins can approve them
[19:50] <PE2BZ> some people add -L and -R to the payload for LoRa and RTTY
[19:50] <Astrobiologist_> ok how about what is in flight over the central and southern UK at the moment?
[19:50] <SA6BSS-Mike1> bookmark this page, many payloads are announced https://groups.google.com/g/ukhas
[19:50] <SA6BSS-Mike1> here
[19:50] <PE2BZ> Like KW04PL ?
[19:50] <Astrobiologist_> yes please
[19:51] <PE2BZ> He does LoRa testing camera / uplink missing packets with SSDV
[19:51] <PE2BZ> http://ssdv.habhub.org/
[19:51] <PE2BZ> shows the images from the inside of the freezer
[19:51] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VK5ST-9_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VK5ST-9_chase
[19:51] <Astrobiologist_> does anybody know the frequency and mode for KW04PL please?
[19:52] <SA6BSS-Mike1> proabably same as 03
[19:52] <SA6BSS-Mike1> are you closeby?
[19:52] <PE2BZ> I assume he is still on 434.737 MHz in LoRa mode 3 given the high speed image changes
[19:52] <SA6BSS-Mike1> https://groups.google.com/g/ukhas/c/FNQi6ACYh0M
[19:52] <Astrobiologist_> the path earlier took it nearish London, so you never know
[19:53] <Astrobiologist_> many thanks
[19:53] <SA6BSS-Mike1> Kev always anounce in the googlegroup
[19:53] <PE2BZ> Yw. As Mike says, Kevin announces in the google group
[19:53] <PE2BZ> to late...
[19:53] <PE2BZ> It´s my age ;-)
[19:54] <SA6BSS-Mike1> hehe, Im probably not far after you ;)
[19:55] <PE2BZ> I would think you are at least one decade younger !
[19:55] Action: PE2BZ gets 57 in about 2 months
[19:56] <SA6BSS-Mike1> rr, I have 8 years of you :)
[19:56] <PE2BZ> Close :-)
[19:58] <PE2BZ> Heading down now. Enjoy the evening all, working day tomorrow, just because the new neighbours are gettin new wiring in their concrete walls and ceiling.
[20:06] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03K4UAH-5 after 0316 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=K4UAH-5
[20:08] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SP6QKM-4FSK - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP6QKM-4FSK
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[20:12] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03W5ACM-7 after 0315 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W5ACM-7
[20:21] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SP6QKM - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP6QKM
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[20:47] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SQ3XBD-4FSK after 033 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SQ3XBD-4FSK
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[20:48] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Xtestm - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Xtestm
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[22:01] <PA1SDB> Hello, On what frequency is Xtestm active rightnow ?:
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[22:06] <Astrobiologist_> Do we know frequency and Lora mode for Xtestm? It isn't in habitat. From the suffix of the rx station it might be Lora mode 0? Is there a mode 0??
[22:07] <PA1SDB> Hello Astrobiologist, I did as that question just 5minutes ago.:-)   No reaction here...
[22:08] <Astrobiologist_> sorry I wasn't logged into IRC then
[22:08] <PA1SDB> Looks like mode 0, but can't find a frequency. Do you know what is common ?
[22:08] <Astrobiologist_> no I don't, unfortunately
[22:09] <Astrobiologist_> SECRET BLACK OPS BALLOONS!!
[22:10] <PA1SDB> Are you closer than I'm ? I'm just at the edge of RX possibillities. Try 432.662
[22:11] <Astrobiologist_> a lot of buildings around me but you never know. If I have time I will put my magmount antenna out on my balcony
[22:13] <PA1SDB> Lora is spooky mode. No sound on speaker, but data on screen ;-)
[22:19] <PA1SDB> Sad or them, but I go QRT, 73's Peter
[22:20] <SA6BSS-Mike1> I m quite sure its justr a test, no balloon in air
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[23:04] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03N4XWC-1 after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1
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