highaltitude.log.20210203

[00:06] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VK3ZWI-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VK3ZWI-11
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[01:23] <os2mac-phone> @happysat yeah I'd say we got it dialed in....
[01:23] <os2mac-phone> https://tracker.sondehub.org/?sondehub=1#!mt=satellite&mz=9&qm=All&mc=61.15883,-149.22618&f=RS_S3530266&q=RS_S3530266
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[02:09] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PS-80 after 036 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PS-80
[02:10] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N2NXZ_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N2NXZ_chase
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[04:47] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VK3TWC_ChaseCar_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VK3TWC_ChaseCar_chase
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[05:18] <ON3JT_Joost> If buttim is still reading : the aligment in SDR# is sometimes tricky. Mode NFM, filter audio off, AGC off, bandwidth just wide enough to catch the signal.
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[05:38] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KD2KDD-15 after 037 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD2KDD-15
[06:20] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03K4UAH-4 after 0317 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=K4UAH-4
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[07:00] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03VK3ZWI-3 after 0313 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VK3ZWI-3
[07:16] <Darkside> SA6BSS-Mike1: i got a parcel!
[07:17] <SA6BSS-Mike1> yay :)
[07:19] <SA6BSS-Mike1> its all setup, just put a usbasp or other programming head with 3,3v and have a acsess to gps signal (near window or gps repeater) and it should start tx on next 10 min slot
[07:20] <Darkside> cool!
[07:20] <Darkside> ok, so 3.3v on the header...
[07:20] <Darkside> easy enough
[07:20] <Darkside> the balloon turned up today too!
[07:20] <Darkside> balloons*
[07:20] <SA6BSS-Mike1> nice!
[07:20] <Darkside> so now i need to get appropriate solar panels
[07:20] <Darkside> and battery? or capacitor?
[07:20] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03CC2XYZ after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CC2XYZ
[07:21] <SA6BSS-Mike1> depends on what you want to do, if you aim for float just small 6psc 39x19 in series will get a lightweight board, around 4 gram total
[07:22] <SA6BSS-Mike1> it have about 12° solar startup
[07:22] <Darkside> where can i buy those?
[07:22] <SA6BSS-Mike1> for antenna I use 0,12mm
[07:22] <SA6BSS-Mike1> ali
[07:22] <SA6BSS-Mike1> 50 or 100pack
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[07:27] <Darkside> link?
[07:28] <SA6BSS-Mike1> sure
[07:29] <SA6BSS-Mike1> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000522850065.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.1000014.6.40f636bbABXAO4&gps-id=pcDetailBottomMoreOtherSeller&scm=1007.13338.177931.0&scm_id=1007.13338.177931.0&scm-url=1007.13338.177931.0&pvid=a6601693-944b-4207-ab1d-3938b51f7194&_t=gps-id:pcDetailBottomMoreOtherSeller,scm-url:1007.13338.177931.0,pvid:a6601693-944b-4207-ab1d-3938b51f7194,tpp_buckets:668%230%23131923%2378_668%2
[07:32] <Darkside> damn should have ordered these ages ago!
[07:32] <Darkside> oh well
[07:33] <Darkside> SA6BSS-Mike1: so you just use the solar panels, no supercap ?
[07:33] <SA6BSS-Mike1> just the cells, no SC
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[07:41] <Darkside> SA6BSS-Mike1: 20m, right?
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[07:42] <SA6BSS-Mike1> yep
[07:42] <Darkside> ok
[07:42] <Darkside> got a WSPR decoder going, have the thing sitting in the window
[07:43] <SA6BSS-Mike1> so if its up now it should start xx*50
[07:43] <SA6BSS-Mike1> it tx for 8min (4 slots
[07:43] <SA6BSS-Mike1> no tx last 08-10, then repeat
[07:44] <Darkside> sorry xx*50?
[07:44] <Darkside> when should the next TX be?
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[07:44] <Darkside> oh, you mean like xx:50Z
[07:45] <SA6BSS-Mike1> its 08:44 here so 08:50
[07:45] <Darkside> so 07:50Z in this case
[07:45] <SA6BSS-Mike1> yes
[07:45] <Darkside> ok
[07:45] <Darkside> allright, will keep an eye out!
[07:45] <SA6BSS-Mike1> you wont miss it, its wuite strong
[07:45] <Darkside> how do you suppory your solar panels?
[07:46] <Darkside> got a picture of an assembled payload?
[07:48] <SA6BSS-Mike1> https://imgur.com/a/xFOSEaK
[07:49] <SA6BSS-Mike1> more pics if you refresh
[07:49] <Darkside> ahh
[07:49] <Darkside> you are just supporting the panels with copepr wire
[07:49] <Darkside> ok
[07:50] <SA6BSS-Mike1> yes, 0,6 or 0,7mm
[07:50] <Darkside> ok it looks tobe transmitting!
[07:50] <SA6BSS-Mike1> cool!!
[07:51] <Darkside> what voltage range can it handle as input?
[07:51] <Darkside> would running off 2xAA batteries work?
[07:51] <Darkside> just thinking i could suspenc it from my tower and let it run for a bit
[07:52] <Darkside> there we go, 10dB SNR decode :-)
[07:55] <Darkside> SA6BSS-Mike1: ok, so in the successive transmissions its sending extra data?
[07:55] <SA6BSS-Mike1> gps cuts at 2,7 and si5351 at 2,5 , the 328 is set to 1,38v brownout
[07:55] <SA6BSS-Mike1> yes
[07:55] <Darkside> i just saw a callsign of 'QC8AVK, which is clearly not valid
[07:55] <SA6BSS-Mike1> it will tx with Q call iirc
[07:55] <SA6BSS-Mike1> channel 18
[07:55] <SA6BSS-Mike1> Qx8xxx
[07:55] <Darkside> channel 18?
[07:55] <Darkside> is there some documentation on how this data is encoded?
[07:56] <SA6BSS-Mike1> 1 sec
[07:56] <Darkside> and also wondering how the data is associated with a callsign
[07:56] <SA6BSS-Mike1> http://www.qrp-labs.com/flights/s4.html
[07:57] <SA6BSS-Mike1> 1 sec... :)
[07:57] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03ICT6 after 036 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ICT6
[07:58] <SA6BSS-Mike1> https://github.com/sm3ulc/hab-wspr or the fork https://github.com/reganhimself/hab-wspr
[07:58] <SM0ULC-David> hi guys
[07:58] <SA6BSS-Mike1> hi
[07:59] <Darkside> hrm
[07:59] <Darkside> channel
[07:59] <Darkside> ok
[08:00] <Darkside> https://github.com/reganhimself/hab-wspr/blob/master/sonde_to_aprs.py
[08:00] <Darkside> haha
[08:00] <Darkside> what
[08:00] <Darkside> # Copyright (C) 2014 Mark Jessop <vk5qi@rfhead.net>
[08:00] <SA6BSS-Mike1> every channel is also setup in subchannel as the script can take just aone of the 5 slots in the 10 min seq and put that together with your call
[08:01] <Darkside> i might just get one of you ro run the uploder :P
[08:01] <Darkside> when i finally get around do doing this launch
[08:01] <SA6BSS-Mike1> sure! :)
[08:02] <Darkside> use the callsign VK5QI-11 i guess
[08:03] <Darkside> o
[08:03] <Darkside> oh , or -12
[08:03] <Darkside> whatever
[08:03] <Darkside> i've ordered the solar panels, i guess it will be at least a month before i do a launch unfortunately
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[08:03] <Darkside> i might try and launch a RS41 under some of th eclear balloons to get some practice in filling them
[08:04] <SA6BSS-Mike1> thats a good practice, you have the git for sw and psc if you wnat to do more
[08:04] <SA6BSS-Mike1> *pcb
[08:05] <Darkside> yup
[08:05] <SA6BSS-Mike1> you can inser the data in this xls and you see it decoded
[08:05] <SA6BSS-Mike1> http://www.qrp-labs.com/images/ultimate3builder/ve3kcl/s4/308d.xls
[08:06] <Darkside> so how can i tell how high i can float the clear balloons?
[08:06] <SA6BSS-Mike1> let it tx and I make a payload doc
[08:06] <Darkside> any calculators for that?
[08:06] <Darkside> SA6BSS-Mike1: its still TXing now
[08:06] <Darkside> SA6BSS-Mike1: i thought you upload to APRS though?
[08:06] <SA6BSS-Mike1> jst go with 4gram free lift
[08:06] <SA6BSS-Mike1> no, direct to habhub
[08:06] <Darkside> oh ok
[08:07] <SA6BSS-Mike1> what name, QI1 ?
[08:07] <Darkside> VK5QI-WSPR
[08:07] <SA6BSS-Mike1> oki
[08:07] <Darkside> SA6BSS-Mike1: hmm, that will be interesting with the RS41
[08:07] <Darkside> will probably need multiple balloons for that
[08:07] <SA6BSS-Mike1> hmm, why?
[08:08] <SA6BSS-Mike1> ahh, yes, two at least to get of the ground :)
[08:08] <Darkside> hrm
[08:08] <Darkside> i wonder what the float altitude would be
[08:08] <Darkside> going to need a lot of gas to get the RS41 off the ground
[08:09] <Darkside> https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Creative-Food-Sealer-Bag-Handheld-Mini-Portable-Electric-Heat-Sealing-Machin-AU/154149783864?hash=item23e40b0938:g:~OEAAOSw9CNeukvN something like this for sealing the balloon?
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[08:18] <SA6BSS-Mike1> just an iron set at wool with some baking paper in between
[08:20] <Darkside> hmm
[08:20] <SA6BSS-Mike1> to seal the inlet
[08:20] <Darkside> yeah
[08:20] <Darkside> would the heat sealer wand work though?
[08:20] <Darkside> might be easier
[08:20] <SA6BSS-Mike1> no, it does not look easier
[08:20] <SA6BSS-Mike1> :)
[08:21] <SA6BSS-Mike1> jus put a mouse pad under for an eaven seam
[08:21] <SA6BSS-Mike1> using the iron
[08:21] <Darkside> "mouse pad"
[08:21] <Darkside> :P
[08:21] <Darkside> because i totally have one of those
[08:21] <SA6BSS-Mike1> yeah, one thing not needed to order :)(
[08:22] <Darkside> no no, i mean i dont have one!
[08:22] <Darkside> i use a laptop
[08:23] <Darkside> ill figure something out
[08:23] <SA6BSS-Mike1> hee, then you neck must be sore!
[08:23] <SA6BSS-Mike1> it like 4$ in your nearest shop
[08:24] <Darkside> yeah
[08:24] <Darkside> iron and baking paper is in stock in house :P
[08:24] <SA6BSS-Mike1> it should be!
[08:24] <Darkside> haha
[08:25] <Darkside> so how do you crefully fill the balloon?
[08:25] <SA6BSS-Mike1> are you upload ing spots, cant see any spots
[08:26] <Darkside> hmm im using WSJT-X to decode
[08:26] <Darkside> does that do it?
[08:26] <SA6BSS-Mike1> jsy fill them up, clamp a food sealer on , mesure the free lift with a scale with a hook on
[08:26] <SA6BSS-Mike1> yes, but cant see any spots in https://wsprnet.org/olddb?mode=html&band=all&limit=50&findcall=v5qi&findreporter=&sort=date
[08:26] <Darkside> hmm
[08:26] <Darkside> well im definitely receiving
[08:27] <SA6BSS-Mike1> and script does not see any qx8xxx calls
[08:27] <Darkside> oh
[08:27] <Darkside> tickbox was missing
[08:27] <Darkside> my bad
[08:27] <SA6BSS-Mike1> yep, guess it
[08:27] <SA6BSS-Mike1> ok, lets see now
[08:28] <Darkside> also th elink you send has a typo
[08:28] <Darkside> should be VK5QI
[08:29] <SA6BSS-Mike1> 👍
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[08:36] <SA6BSS-Mike1> you need to change your rx set up to something else then your call, maby VK5QI1 or / RX
[08:38] <Darkside> oh hrm
[08:38] <Darkside> ok
[08:38] <Darkside> done
[08:38] <Darkside> will be yploading from VK3PRG from now
[08:38] <SA6BSS-Mike1> rr
[08:39] <SA6BSS-Mike1> wsjtx have a setting "dont upload own call"
[08:39] <SA6BSS-Mike1> 2,3 was released 2days ago by the way
[08:39] <SA6BSS-Mike1> https://sourceforge.net/projects/wsjt/files/
[08:40] Nick change: SA6BSS-Mike1 -> SA6BSS-Mike
[08:42] <SA6BSS-Mike> now I see it
[08:48] <Darkside> yay
[08:49] <SA6BSS-Mike> script acting up, lets see f it work now...
[08:54] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VK5QI-WSPR1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VK5QI-WSPR1
[08:54] <SA6BSS-Mike> and you are on the map :)
[08:54] <Darkside> yay!
[08:55] <Darkside> battery is not 4.56v lol
[08:55] <Darkside> shoudl be 3.3
[08:56] <SA6BSS-Mike> I have not fitted any or made room for any voltage divider
[08:56] <SA6BSS-Mike> as I run the board on solar there is no interest in volatge
[08:56] <Darkside> yeah ok
[08:56] <SA6BSS-Mike> it show the same volatge all day
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[09:15] <Darkside> SA6BSS-Mike: ok shuttting it off now :-)
[09:16] <SA6BSS-Mike> rr
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[11:50] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03N4XWC-1 after 0312 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1
[12:12] <g7gpr> S3010220 is going straight over the bushfires.
[12:17] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PY3YD_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PY3YD_chase
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[12:54] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BANGBUS_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BANGBUS_chase
[13:29] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SCHT02_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SCHT02_chase
[13:36] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03WB6TOU-13 after 0316 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WB6TOU-13
[14:18] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KC6VVT-15_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KC6VVT-15_chase
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[14:38] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP6ZWR after 033 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP6ZWR
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[15:48] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03AB5SS-12 after 0317 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=AB5SS-12
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[16:00] <Einsteins> Hello
[16:01] <PE2BZ> Bonjour ;-)
[16:02] <Einsteins> 2 days ago I was able to set up my reciver and now tracked a sondy as it passed by. I can see that the data have been farwarded to radiosondy.info correctly. But for tracker.sondehub.org I do not know if the data have been reported
[16:02] <Einsteins> can I see now (when the sondy is out of range) if the data have been recorded?
[16:02] <Einsteins> Hi PE2BZ
[16:04] <PE2BZ> Can you give the number of one of the tracked sondes ?
[16:04] <Einsteins> shure, 1 sec
[16:04] <Einsteins> RS_S2270373
[16:05] <Einsteins> is there anywhere on tracker.sondehub.org the possibility to view the data?
[16:05] <SA6BSS-Mike1> you can for one click on the trace and get "that" spot of data
[16:06] <SA6BSS-Mike1> lets see what Ben digs up :)
[16:06] Action: PE2BZ digs up nothing. Tried the export telemetry but that does not store weathersondes
[16:06] <SA6BSS-Mike1> rr
[16:07] <Einsteins> well the trick with the click on the track helped
[16:07] <SA6BSS-Mike1> glas to hear
[16:07] <PE2BZ> and habitat.sondehub.org/ept links to habitat.habhub.org
[16:07] <SA6BSS-Mike1> */d
[16:07] <PE2BZ> +1 for Mike ;-)
[16:07] <Einsteins> RS_S2270373(74828975)
[16:07] <Einsteins> 48.864, 9.3179
[16:07] <Einsteins> Altitude: 3.001 m
[16:07] <Einsteins> Time: 2021-02-03 11:55:15
[16:07] <Einsteins> Distance: 304.31 km
[16:07] <Einsteins> Duration: 3h 25m
[16:07] <Einsteins> Comment: RS41-SGP S2270373 404.500 MHz 696.1hPa 2.9V
[16:07] <Einsteins> Humidity: 99.3
[16:07] <Einsteins> Temperature, External: -3.8°C
[16:07] <Einsteins> Received via: F1TKE, F5KAV-RS, GALILEI
[16:07] <Einsteins> The last line tells everything I need
[16:08] <Einsteins> thanks a lot
[16:08] <SA6BSS-Mike1> 👍
[16:08] Action: PE2BZ wonders why Einsteins did not know that ;-)
[16:08] <Einsteins> I just now have to improve the antenna
[16:09] <Einsteins> I'm working on the other topic PE2BZ ;-)
[16:09] <SA6BSS-Mike1> the never ending story, higher , better, lower noise factor of the lna
[16:10] <Einsteins> currently I only have a china antenna inside the house - yes I know - but I will improve
[16:10] <Einsteins> material is on order....
[16:11] <PE2BZ> I went for half the max height.
[16:11] <SA6BSS-Mike1> it can only gt better from there!"!
[16:11] <PE2BZ> at qrl at 27 M is much better as at 52 m where there is ¨a world of background noise¨ compared to the lower location. Now if only someone does fix my Wifi Link....
[16:12] <SA6BSS-Mike1> it lays something in that, my 1m low bev is the best antenna I have :)
[16:12] <Einsteins> according the local log of Auto-RX , it tracked the sondy about 52km, for this setup I like it :-)
[16:14] <SA6BSS-Mike1> I figure it does not have toi be so very elaborate antenna setup for sondes as they fal down quite fast, you will only get maby one or two extra spots with a goos antenna and rx compared to a mediokere one
[16:15] <Einsteins> the target is to close a black spot here
[16:15] <SA6BSS-Mike1> you still know where it landed and you stil needs to bring a rx to get the final pos at location'
[16:15] <Einsteins> .... I will only pick it up if I could walk to there
[16:16] <Einsteins> ... and if it is not later then 8pm
[16:16] <Einsteins> :-(
[16:16] <SA6BSS-Mike1> rr, about same here, only goes after them if they fall within 15-20km
[16:16] <SA6BSS-Mike1> you can drive out , get the final pos and go back in daylight and get it
[16:16] <Einsteins> currently not
[16:17] <Einsteins> we are not allowed to leave the house after 8pm
[16:17] <SA6BSS-Mike1> oki
[16:17] <Einsteins> police checks on every main road
[16:17] <Einsteins> not a good idea
[16:17] <SA6BSS-Mike1> good then , they tend to fall in the most remote areas :) 😁
[16:19] <Einsteins> yes it is crazy, 3 month back, they landed just 500m away, and now, started at the same location the distance is about 250km
[16:19] <Einsteins> ... to the landing point
[16:20] <SA6BSS-Mike1> wintertime tends to be more windy
[16:20] <Einsteins> then I have to hope for summer
[16:21] <SA6BSS-Mike1> yes,... days getting longer now anyway so thats a good thing, sonn there...
[16:22] <SA6BSS-Mike1> PE2BZ: so, ben any wspr board launch soon?
[16:22] <SA6BSS-Mike1> every 3 day the sun gain 1° elev
[16:23] <Einsteins> ok thanks again for the support, I will leave now
[16:23] <SA6BSS-Mike1> at my qth
[16:23] <SA6BSS-Mike1> have fun!!
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[16:26] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03ICT6 after 038 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ICT6
[16:46] <os2mac-phone> is there a way, on sondehub.org to show the entire history of a balloon flight as a table?
[16:57] <happysat> no but you can have that on sondy if you upload data to that source via aprs in station.cfg
[16:57] <happysat> https://radiosondy.info/
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[17:39] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PS-80 after 0313 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PS-80
[17:47] <PE2BZ> SA6BSS-Mike1, I am checking the possibilities on daily base ;-)
[17:54] <PE2BZ> But might launch aprrtys before wspr to check max altitude
[17:55] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SP5LOT-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP5LOT-11
[18:19] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03AIRCOR-1 after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=AIRCOR-1
[18:43] <SA6BSS-Mike1> PE2BZ: :) its kind of weather depending indeed !
[18:47] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03K7IRK-8 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=K7IRK-8
[18:47] <PE2BZ> Weather we like it or not ;-)
[18:50] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KN4IUD-15 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KN4IUD-15
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[20:08] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03K7IRK-12 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=K7IRK-12
[20:14] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KE0KOS-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KE0KOS-11
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[20:33] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP5NVX after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP5NVX
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[21:43] <Darkside> os2mac-phone: not entirely sure you realise how many data points that might be!
[21:43] <Darkside> there is a telemetry graph availabe at the bottom of the map
[21:44] <os2mac-phone> whelp in the case of the balloons I'm tracking I know exactly how many because there are only two of us in alaska... and I have my logs. :)
[21:47] <os2mac-phone> so in the case of last nights balloon 1664 lines...
[21:52] <Highpersonix> must be awesome to not have any noobs try and catch a sonde
[21:52] <Highpersonix> otoh, how Alaska?
[21:53] <Highpersonix> are there even enough roads to come close to a landing site?
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[21:55] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD8YQL_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD8YQL_chase
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[23:06] <mjgardes> I'd like to have a stab at decoding some of the telemetry fields from RS92s that haven't been implemented in auto_rx yet
[23:08] <mjgardes> But I am not sure how to save a dump of the raw frames since the save_audio options don't work for that decoder
[23:13] <os2mac-phone> @Highpersonix that's the biggest issue... most of the balloons up here don't land any where near where you can just drive up and get them.
[23:13] <os2mac-phone> you'd need a helo to get to most of them.
[23:15] <os2mac-phone> @Darkside the only other person that tracked that balloon last night (who lives right near the launch point) got 708 lines of data.
[23:17] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03N4XWC-1 after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1
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[23:25] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N2NXZ_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N2NXZ_chase
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[23:27] <os2mac-phone> @Highpersonix https://tracker.sondehub.org/?sondehub=1#!mt=osm&mz=11&qm=1_hour&f=RS_S3540226&q=RS_S3540226
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