highaltitude.log.20210130

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[00:38] <Darkside> PH1M: PE2BZ and all - new horus-gui version is now out (v0.1.16) which will hopefully help with those false-positives
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[01:08] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03ttgotbeamkitabp after 036 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ttgotbeamkitabp
[01:49] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HAPPYSAT-4FSK after 0312 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HAPPYSAT-4FSK
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[03:11] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HORUSBINARY after 0321 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HORUSBINARY
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[08:54] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03hera-two-test after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=hera-two-test
[08:54] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PH1M_NO_GPS after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PH1M_NO_GPS
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[09:39] <PE2BZ> Darkside, thanks!
[09:41] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PH1M-4FSK after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PH1M-4FSK
[09:41] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HERA_TWO after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HERA_TWO
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[10:52] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03bzttnv2 after 038 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=bzttnv2
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[11:10] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03CC2XYZ after 035 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CC2XYZ
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[11:17] <PE2BZ> bertrik, are you available for a ttn v2 > v3 question ?
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[11:21] <Darkside> hmm need to add horus_UDP output to ttnhabitatbridge
[11:22] Action: PE2BZ is pressing g and ctrl w in the wrong window....
[11:23] <PE2BZ> Darkside, do you run lorwawn gateway yourself ?
[11:23] <Darkside> we will be for the next flight when we try it
[11:24] <PE2BZ> I am viewing a large yellow warning message ¨WarningThe Things Network is shutting down v2 clusters later this year. Start moving your applications and devices to a v3 cluster! Click here to read more¨
[11:24] <Darkside> hrm given i just added my application its probably fine
[11:25] <PE2BZ> So when registering the gateway to the V3 console it keeps disconnected and shows no traffic, whilst in V2 console it is delivering data.
[11:25] <Darkside> oh
[11:25] <Darkside> hmm
[11:25] <Darkside> pass
[11:25] <PE2BZ> Np :-)
[11:26] <PE2BZ> I don´t want to remove the gateway from the V2 at the moment and I was wondering if you can have one gateway registered on both V2 and V3 at the same time. Hope bertrik hops by :-)
[11:27] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VK8NFL_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VK8NFL_chase
[11:31] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VK8PRD_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VK8PRD_chase
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[11:35] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VK8FDTY_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VK8FDTY_chase
[11:38] <Darkside> hm
[11:38] <Darkside> looks like the VK8s are going for it
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[11:39] <Darkside> not really sure why though... its landing in water
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[11:42] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VK8UP_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VK8UP_chase
[11:48] <bertrik> PE2BZ: I heard about the transition and read a bit about it
[11:49] <bertrik> what I understand now is that v2 -> v3 for gateways is a one-way transition, data from a v2 gateway is forwarded to v3, but not the other way around
[11:49] <bertrik> so I would stick to v2 for the time being, *especially* for gateways
[11:50] <bertrik> I am a bit suprised they plan to go ahead with such a breaking change
[11:50] <bertrik> the TTN-mapper author also warns about it
[11:53] <PE2BZ> Tnx info :-) I will leave it as is for the moment.
[11:56] <bertrik> maybe "warn" is bit strong, but at least keep gateways at v2 to keep things working
[11:56] <bertrik> https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/ttn-v2-to-v3-migration-migrate-your-gateways-last/43445
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[12:36] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KD2VGT-2 after 0321 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD2VGT-2
[12:36] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KD2VGT-1 after 033 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD2VGT-1
[12:40] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03K4UAH-4 after 0316 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=K4UAH-4
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[13:35] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PE2BZ-4FSK - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PE2BZ-4FSK
[13:50] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PB0AHX-4FSK - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PB0AHX-4FSK
[14:00] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PB0AHX - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PB0AHX
[14:04] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03ZS1ARB_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ZS1ARB_chase
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[14:51] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03W3UAV-15 after 0321 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W3UAV-15
[15:00] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03VK3ZWI-3 after 0315 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VK3ZWI-3
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[15:32] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03K1AMO - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=K1AMO
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[16:21] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HAPPYSAT-4FSK after 0313 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HAPPYSAT-4FSK
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[19:11] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PS-80 after 0313 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PS-80
[20:08] <PE2BZ> ping bertrik are you familiair with n> WARNING: Illegal reflective access by retrofit2.Platform (file:/home/pi/ttnhabbridge/ttnhabbridge/build/distributions/ttnhabbridge/lib/retrofit-2.9.0.jar) to constructor java.lang.invoke.MethodHandles$Lookup(java.lang.Class,int) error in the ttnhabbridge ?
[20:16] <bertrik> yeah, I've seen the warning
[20:17] <bertrik> I don't really know what the actual problem is
[20:17] <PE2BZ> Is it something to ignore? OZ1SKY_Brian is trying to get his payload on the map and he ran into it.
[20:17] <bertrik> I had hoped it would clear itself out perhaps by a newer update of Retrofit, but I think it shouldn't actually give a problem right now
[20:18] <PE2BZ> rr thanks again
[20:18] <bertrik> but indeed it does bother me a littel
[20:19] <bertrik> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/60915381/retrofit2-maven-project-illegal-reflective-access-warning
[20:20] <bertrik> has some useful info
[20:22] <OZ1SKY_Brian> hi bertrik
[20:22] <OZ1SKY_Brian> i can paste it to a pm, all the warnings till it stops?
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[20:44] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03WB6TOU-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WB6TOU-11
[21:02] <bertrik> I read something earlier this weekend about a wish for some kind of other forwarding mechanism (UDP?), right?
[21:20] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03sky_lora - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=sky_lora
[21:22] <OZ1SKY_Brian> bertrik thanks, working now :-)
[21:22] <bertrik> cool :)
[21:23] <bertrik> happy to see my software being used, I've never launched a lorawan payload myself :)
[21:24] <bertrik> and it's not exactly "rocket science" but somebody just had to write a proof-of-principle
[21:26] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03WB6TOU-13 after 0319 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WB6TOU-13
[21:27] <bertrik> since the default binary encoding is the cayenne payload format, it can also be recognized by the TTN-mapper software by J.P. Meijers
[21:28] <bertrik> you can add the 'integration' for that in the TTN console
[21:28] <bertrik> but you should mark the data as an 'experiment' to avoid polluting the TTN mapper coverage data
[21:29] <bertrik> TTN mapper was made for mapping out the quality of reception vs location for 'ordinary' ground-based nodes, not when 'cheating' by using a balloon :)
[21:30] <OZ1SKY_Brian> im not really sure how to mark it as that?
[21:32] <OZ1SKY_Brian> im new to lora
[21:32] <OZ1SKY_Brian> and ttn
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[21:34] <OZ1SKY_Brian> i think ill just use the ttnmaps app, there is can set it
[21:34] <bertrik> https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/docs/applications/ttnmapper/
[21:35] <bertrik> as far as I understand: just choosing an experiment name (not leaving it empty) in the ttnmapper integration marks it as experimental
[21:35] <bertrik> "If you are measuring coverage that is out of the ordinary, like taking a GPS tracker on an aeroplane, strapping it to a balloon or drone, or climbing a high mast or tower that is not publicly accessible, your data should be logged to an experiment to keep it separated from the main TTN Mapper global coverage map."
[21:36] <OZ1SKY_Brian> for now ill just have it for a few spins in the car
[21:37] <bertrik> you can add it in the TTN console under 'integrations': https://imgur.com/cmzrBRk.png
[21:38] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ill try
[21:40] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ok found it and done
[21:41] <bertrik> it's not necessary for the habitat integration and might mess with the TTN mapper coverage, so use with care I think
[21:43] <OZ1SKY_Brian> wonder if it evens understand the data comming from the tracker, for it to work with tnn mapper, it need the gps, but not sure it understands the data from the tracker
[21:44] <bertrik> it will understand the GPS position part of the payload but has no way to handle the other parts like temperature or analog voltage
[21:44] <OZ1SKY_Brian> might need a payload format setting in ttn, but no idea how to make that
[21:45] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ok
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[22:40] <OZ1SKY_Brian> gn@all
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