highaltitude.log.20210122

[00:06] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03LU1ESY-11 after 033 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=LU1ESY-11
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[01:49] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SCHT02_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SCHT02_chase
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[06:26] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03ICT6 after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ICT6
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[07:09] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PS-80 after 0313 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PS-80
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[08:11] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03AXB2035_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=AXB2035_chase
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[08:36] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03ttgotbeamkitabp after 0315 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ttgotbeamkitabp
[08:52] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03icspace24 after 0316 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=icspace24
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[10:04] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SITS-2 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SITS-2
[10:10] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03sammy-ttn - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=sammy-ttn
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[10:33] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03HERA_TWO - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HERA_TWO
[10:33] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PH1M-4FSK after 0315 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PH1M-4FSK
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[11:10] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SITS-JS3 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SITS-JS3
[11:13] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SITS-JS4 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SITS-JS4
[11:27] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PIAVR - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PIAVR
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[11:44] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03N4XWC-1 after 0312 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1
[12:17] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VK5LJG-9_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VK5LJG-9_chase
[12:42] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VK5QI-9_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VK5QI-9_chase
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[13:06] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03F4CLS_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=F4CLS_chase
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[14:27] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03LU1ESY-11 after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=LU1ESY-11
[14:29] <OZ1SKY_Brian> any of you using single channel lora gateway to track ispace24?
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[15:14] <OZ1SKY_Brian> noone using single channel lora gateway at all?
[15:18] <PE2BZ> OZ1SKY_Brian, I guess .... But even on a single channel gateway you should have a chance of one every 8 tranmissions.
[15:18] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ok it changes mode?
[15:19] <OZ1SKY_Brian> oh finaly got it talking to the TTN console, it say connected now
[15:20] <PE2BZ> My TTN trackers switch channels, problem is I don´t know the ID of the IC space tracker, my receiver shows ¨received on bla bla ¨ so that could have been a check.
[15:20] <PE2BZ> Medad appears not to be online
[15:21] <OZ1SKY_Brian> RR well now im at first step, that its connected
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[15:21] <OZ1SKY_Brian> and now i found out why its not seeing anything, antenna was not connected dohh
[15:22] <PE2BZ> .....
[15:22] <PE2BZ> There is no good reply to that ;-) If it did never happen to me ....
[15:22] <OZ1SKY_Brian> lol namecalling is ok :-)
[15:22] <PE2BZ> What´s your EUI-ID if anything ?
[15:22] <OZ1SKY_Brian> oh well still not seeing anything
[15:23] <OZ1SKY_Brian> eui-dca632ffffd86d8a
[15:23] <OZ1SKY_Brian> 868.100 SF7
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[15:27] <OZ1SKY_Brian> in the config i wonder, i need to define ssPin dio0 and RST
[15:27] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PH1M_NO_GPS - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PH1M_NO_GPS
[15:28] <OZ1SKY_Brian> in the doc for the board i see dio0 is pin 6
[15:28] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ssPin is not in the doc for the board
[15:28] <PE2BZ> Does your setup have any RSSI indication ?
[15:29] <OZ1SKY_Brian> for the CE0 module i got dio0 dio5 and nss
[15:29] <OZ1SKY_Brian> no nothing
[15:29] <PE2BZ> Usually with LoRa if RSSI is fixed at certain value that means there is no data from the LoRa chip.
[15:30] <OZ1SKY_Brian> wonder is NSS os the ssPin
[15:30] <OZ1SKY_Brian> is=if
[15:30] <PE2BZ> WHere´s the doc you are referring to ?
[15:30] <OZ1SKY_Brian> paper came with the board, dont know if Upu have it only
[15:31] <OZ1SKY_Brian> cant type today, i mean online not only
[15:31] <OZ1SKY_Brian> cant type today, i mean online not online
[15:31] <PE2BZ> That´s the default Pi add-on board ?
[15:31] <OZ1SKY_Brian> its the Upu lora board yes
[15:31] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ce0 is 868 and ce1 is 433
[15:32] <PE2BZ> You have ever had any RX with the 868 setup ? Either HAB lora or lorawan ?
[15:33] <OZ1SKY_Brian> yes hab lora
[15:33] <OZ1SKY_Brian> but the hab lora gateway use pins dio0 and dio5
[15:33] <OZ1SKY_Brian> the single channel lorawan use dio0 and ssPin
[15:35] <OZ1SKY_Brian> NSS could be the ssPin they mean
[15:36] <OZ1SKY_Brian> but that dont change anything rx packet wise
[15:37] <PE2BZ> I have a Pi3, with 868 and 433 module, and I have a local lorawan tracker available, so I could test if it works if you can point me to the software ?
[15:38] <OZ1SKY_Brian> https://www.hackster.io/ChrisSamuelson/lora-raspberry-pi-single-channel-gateway-cheap-d57d36
[15:40] <OZ1SKY_Brian> its the ssPin i cant work out, as the hab gateway use dio0 and dio5
[15:41] <PE2BZ> Booting Pi
[15:41] <OZ1SKY_Brian> RR
[15:42] <PE2BZ> IP adress and password still in my memory ;-)
[15:42] <OZ1SKY_Brian> good man :-)
[15:44] <OZ1SKY_Brian> back in a few min...
[15:44] <OZ1SKY_Brian> coffe
[15:47] <PE2BZ> pi@lora868434pi:~ $ sudo /home/pi/single_chan_pkt_fwd/single_chan_pkt_fwd
[15:47] <PE2BZ> SX1276 detected, starting.
[15:47] <PE2BZ> Gateway ID: b8:27:eb:ff:ff:2d:b8:40
[15:47] <PE2BZ> Listening at SF7 on 868.100000 Mhz.
[15:48] <PE2BZ> Makes me assuming it has the necessary communication lines available.
[15:50] <OZ1SKY_Brian> back
[15:51] <OZ1SKY_Brian> mine write that too no matter how i set the ssPin
[15:51] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BZ-LORA-5 after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BZ-LORA-5
[15:52] <OZ1SKY_Brian> but its not getting any decodes
[15:52] <OZ1SKY_Brian> only stat updates
[15:54] <PE2BZ> Now I have to wait till I notice one transmission on the 8 channel gateway on 868.1
[15:56] Action: PE2BZ powered the LoRa Hab tracker :-(
[15:57] <OZ1SKY_Brian> sadly there is not any rssi readout, so not able to debug anything on the software
[15:57] <PE2BZ> Was wondering why I was on the map with no RX packets from my gateway... Now powered the ttn tracker...
[15:57] <PE2BZ> I first installed and am now reading the documents ;-)
[15:58] <OZ1SKY_Brian> lol
[16:00] <PE2BZ> Somehow I think NSS is wired to Pi header pin 24 on the add-on board.
[16:00] <OZ1SKY_Brian> you have the same board?
[16:01] <PE2BZ> Might have the / an older version
[16:01] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ok
[16:01] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03bzttnv2 after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=bzttnv2
[16:01] <PE2BZ> CE0 NSS is on pin 24, CE1 NSS is on pin 26
[16:02] <PE2BZ> https://www.dropbox.com/s/mbvvoac2vaae0l4/PiLoraGatewayV2.5.pdf?dl=0
[16:02] <PE2BZ> Downloaded that once from Upu ´s store :-)
[16:03] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ah great!
[16:03] <OZ1SKY_Brian> so pin 22 and 24 should be used
[16:04] <PE2BZ> 24, 26 I think ?
[16:04] <PE2BZ> For me 868 is CE0, so 24
[16:05] <OZ1SKY_Brian> dio0 is pin 22?
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[16:05] <PE2BZ> Srry
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[16:06] <PE2BZ> dio0 and NSS 22 and 24 indeed. I assumed CE0 and CE1 24 and 26 :-)
[16:06] <OZ1SKY_Brian> let me try 22 and 24
[16:06] <PE2BZ> But the software also could refer to the wiring pi numbers. Which line do you find those ?
[16:07] <PE2BZ> Found it. pin numbers are wiringpi numbers and not header pins !
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[16:09] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ok allready tried those, dio0 is wirepin 6 and nss is 10
[16:09] <OZ1SKY_Brian> IF NSS is the same as ssPin
[16:10] <PE2BZ> And you do run make after every change ?
[16:10] <OZ1SKY_Brian> yes
[16:10] <PE2BZ> rr
[16:11] <OZ1SKY_Brian> SF7 thats 125khz or?
[16:12] <PE2BZ> "time": "2021-01-22T16:04:19.324414062Z",
[16:12] <PE2BZ> "frequency": 868.1,
[16:12] <PE2BZ> "modulation": "LORA",
[16:12] <PE2BZ> "data_rate": "SF7BW125",
[16:12] <PE2BZ> "coding_rate": "4/5",
[16:12] <PE2BZ> "gateways": [
[16:12] <OZ1SKY_Brian> thanks,
[16:13] <PE2BZ> (thats from the 8 channel gateway.
[16:13] <PE2BZ> But :-)
[16:13] <PE2BZ> stat update: {"stat":{"time":"2021-01-22 16:11:58 GMT","lati":52.00000,"long":4.40000,"alti":0,"rxnb":0,"rxok":0,"rxfw":0,"ackr":0.0,"dwnb":0,"txnb":0,"pfrm":"Single Channel Gateway","mail":"pe2bz@pe2bz.nl","desc":"this is a test on a Pi3"}}
[16:13] <PE2BZ> Packet RSSI: -68, RSSI: -115, SNR: 9, Length: 35
[16:13] <PE2BZ> rxpk update: {"rxpk":[{"tmst":1937771013,"chan":0,"rfch":0,"freq":868.100000,"stat":1,"modu":"LORA","datr":"SF7BW125","codr":"4/5","lsnr":9,"rssi":-68,"size":35,"data":"QC8XASaABAABPNAgQxr2IAjSdbX5kUB9/MvBujzACbOW4z4="}]}
[16:13] <PE2BZ> stat update: {"stat":{"time":"2021-01-22 16:12:28 GMT","lati":52.00000,"long":4.40000,"alti":0,"rxnb":1,"rxok":1,"rxfw":0,"ackr":0.0,"dwnb":0,"txnb":0,"pfrm":"Single Channel Gateway","mail":"pe2bz@pe2bz.nl","desc":"this is a test on a P
[16:13] <PE2BZ> SO with 10and 6 it´s working over here :-)
[16:13] <OZ1SKY_Brian> oh great
[16:13] Action: PE2BZ is lookging for beer to celebrate
[16:14] <OZ1SKY_Brian> i got a case waiting for you :-)
[16:14] <OZ1SKY_Brian> maybe i just dont have any sf7 on 868.100, better check the spectrum
[16:19] <OZ1SKY_Brian> looks like something on 868.3 let me try that
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[16:21] <OZ1SKY_Brian> no decodes
[16:21] <OZ1SKY_Brian> do we know the freq and mode for icspace24?
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[16:22] <PE2BZ> No.
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[16:22] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ok
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[16:22] <PE2BZ> Any parts left to make a LoRaWan device yourself ?
[16:23] <OZ1SKY_Brian> no one got the board
[16:23] <OZ1SKY_Brian> just the one chip i got
[16:24] <OZ1SKY_Brian> do you by any chance got a picture of a SF7 signal, so i know what to look for?
[16:24] <PE2BZ> Can do.
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[16:29] <PE2BZ> https://www.dropbox.com/s/vuko5x07mo32yta/Screenshot-2021-01-22-172813.jpeg?dl=0
[16:30] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ok just a bar :-)
[16:30] <OZ1SKY_Brian> like that maybe ? https://pasteboard.co/JKQdo9n.png
[16:32] <PE2BZ> No. Hang on a minute ;-)
[16:33] <OZ1SKY_Brian> R
[16:35] <PE2BZ> https://www.dropbox.com/s/oascqv09szmilxr/SDR%20Console%202021-01-22%2017h%2033m%2023s.mp4?dl=0
[16:35] <PE2BZ> TX is very shortly after the recording starts
[16:36] <OZ1SKY_Brian> yes see it
[16:37] Action: PE2BZ is viewing the bats outside :-)
[16:38] <OZ1SKY_Brian> hehe nice, not seeing any of those here
[16:38] <OZ1SKY_Brian> https://pasteboard.co/JKQgAW2.png
[16:38] <OZ1SKY_Brian> looks right?
[16:38] <PE2BZ> It´s sunset, and I have a view on 2 large trees at the back of the house. 2 different types, the small ones but also the large with the hooks in the wings.
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[16:40] <PE2BZ> No, that one looks like SF11, or 12, lower data rate because ¨you see the lines being drawn¨ if you understand what I mean.
[16:40] <DK6OV> Hi
[16:40] <PE2BZ> Gutenabend :-)
[16:41] <OZ1SKY_Brian> hallo
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[16:41] <PE2BZ> Wie geht´s im Hannover ?
[16:41] <DK6OV> PE2BZ: you just post a picture of your SDR-Receiver. Witch software are u using?
[16:42] <PE2BZ> That´s from Simon Brown, SDR Console v 3.0.26
[16:43] <DK6OV> I know cqrlog, gqrx and some other, but I don't now that. Is it running on Linux?
[16:43] <PE2BZ> I run that at work too, recording 400 - 406 MHz 24 hrs a day.
[16:44] <PE2BZ> No, sorry, that´s windows only
[16:45] <DK6OV> Ok, the styling looks very much like linux :-) That's the reason because I don't know it.
[16:46] <PE2BZ> I prefer Linux by SSH ;-) No monitor attached.
[16:47] <DK6OV> Do you plan any balloon flights in the future?
[16:48] <PE2BZ> Sure :-) But I need a bit weather improvement. I want to test a balloon (164 cm number zero) with as lightweight tracker as possible, so preferred solar power, to check max altitude. But that may be a first test with 2 AAA energizers....
[16:48] <PE2BZ> APRS on VHF and rtty on 144.600 for example.
[16:49] <OZ1SKY_Brian> why not 4fsk vs rtty?
[16:50] <DK6OV> I will keep an eye on it and be there when something happens.
[16:50] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ah you said 2m, so not a rs41 then :-)
[16:50] <PE2BZ> I find the RS41 still not reliable operating at solar (gps with no fix) and that tracker is 15 grams without batteries. The APRS is 4 grams without batteries. And all is testing for wspr 4 grams including solar and antenna :-)
[16:51] <OZ1SKY_Brian> RRR ill shut up now :-)
[16:51] <PE2BZ> Finally ;-)
[16:51] <OZ1SKY_Brian> lol
[16:52] <PE2BZ> I am looking in the drawer to find anything I can send you as lorawan gateway tester so behave ;-)
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[16:52] <OZ1SKY_Brian> oh really, that sounds great!
[16:53] <DK6OV> It is ages ago, that my 433MHz Lora-device has received any signal. ;-)
[16:53] <PE2BZ> PH1M wired an rfm module to an rs41 .... Hera one
[16:53] <PE2BZ> That did LoRaWan too.
[16:53] <OZ1SKY_Brian> yes i wonder if anyone picked it up, it didnt look like it on the track
[16:54] <PE2BZ> DK6OV, ask OZ1SKY_Brian if it could make a difference if you connect an antenna ;-)
[16:54] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ill never hear the end of it :-)
[16:54] <DK6OV> I received the sonde from PH1M, but without GPS und level it is not very interesting.
[16:55] <OZ1SKY_Brian> PE2BZ not alot going on here https://pasteboard.co/JKQndp0.png
[16:57] <PE2BZ> DK6OV, you noticed that once below a certain altitude the GPS started to work again ?
[16:59] <DK6OV> No, I could listen the sonde for about half an hour. Than the signal disappeared.
[17:00] <PE2BZ> It has been received over 36 hours from a LoRawan station in Denmark after landing in a tree.
[17:01] <DK6OV> It only looks like $$$$$PH1M_NO_GPS,9999,0,0,-13*B0ED
[17:01] <DK6OV> I only could receive Lora on 433 MHz. I have no device for 800 MHz.
[17:02] <PE2BZ> The tracker was an RS41 with custom software, GPS powersave mode with a sofware error appearing it to disable above 200 meter.
[17:03] <PE2BZ> It had an RFM module added for LoRawan and surprisingly it landed at only 500 m from a receiver station
[17:03] <DK6OV> That's not a good mode for HUB. :)
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[17:04] <DK6OV> HUB -> HAB
[17:04] <PE2BZ> https://www.google.nl/maps/@54.534899,11.2473549,9z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!6m1!1s1hlnbTB_41wF8i3r6ZIU3BVN8G0on_zZp
[17:04] <PE2BZ> Does this work ?
[17:04] <PE2BZ> Those where the receivers when balloon (green star) was at 174 m altitude
[17:05] <DK6OV> Yes, I see it on the map.
[17:05] <PE2BZ> The blue pin in the middle of the water is my error ;-)
[17:07] <OZ1SKY_Brian> hera-one was 433 lora?`
[17:07] <DK6OV> No, even not.
[17:07] <PE2BZ> No, LoRawan 868
[17:07] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ah ok
[17:08] <PE2BZ> Which made the tracker magically re-appear below certain altitude without knowing where it was the minute before.
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[17:09] <PE2BZ> OZ1SKY_Brian, where you able to get your gateway online ? Mine states ¨not connected¨
[17:09] <OZ1SKY_Brian> yes its only now
[17:09] <DK6OV> Ok. I have to qrt now. I wish all a nice evening.
[17:09] <PE2BZ> rr same to you!
[17:09] <OZ1SKY_Brian> i used this ip adress
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[17:09] <OZ1SKY_Brian> 52.169.76.203
[17:10] <OZ1SKY_Brian> as server1
[17:10] <OZ1SKY_Brian> the standard i could not get working
[17:11] <PE2BZ> Changed, make, now testing. And going to have some dinner, be back later.
[17:11] <PE2BZ> Yeahh
[17:11] <PE2BZ> status, connected !
[17:11] <PE2BZ> Thanks :-)
[17:11] <OZ1SKY_Brian> nice!
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[17:26] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03WB6TOU-13 after 0318 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WB6TOU-13
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[17:55] <PE2BZ> KevWal, info on qrg and mode please ;-)
[17:58] <SA6BSS-Mike2> https://groups.google.com/g/ukhas/c/KZwUuMysEqI
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[17:58] <SA6BSS-Mike2> LoRa Pits Mode 1 (Implicit, 20.80, SF6, EC4:5) Callsign KEW03 Frequency 434.73Mhz (434.736 typically on my rx) SSDV packets interspaced with location packets.
[17:59] <PE2BZ> Thanks Mike!
[18:00] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03VK3ZWI-3 after 0313 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VK3ZWI-3
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[19:35] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KG6LSE - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KG6LSE
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[19:50] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03solar-ttn-hab - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=solar-ttn-hab
[19:51] <PE2BZ> OZ1SKY_Brian, it´s on the map ;-)
[19:51] <PE2BZ> Hops from 868.1 to 868.3 and 868.5 MHz
[19:52] <OZ1SKY_Brian> yes i see it :-)
[19:58] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03W5KUB-23 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W5KUB-23
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[21:40] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03hera-two - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=hera-two
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[22:42] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03LU1ESY-15 after 0314 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=LU1ESY-15
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[23:09] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03N4XWC-1 after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1
[23:17] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03AXB2035_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=AXB2035_chase
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[23:50] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD9PII_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD9PII_chase
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