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[00:29] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03OH5BZR-73 after 0318 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=OH5BZR-73
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[00:38] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD9PII_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD9PII_chase
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[06:40] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PA3FNT-LORA after 0312 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PA3FNT-LORA
[06:49] <SA6BSS-Mike> PC4L: gm, just a q. did you remove or rebuild the lpf in the rfm98? or did you run the board at 144 with the 434 filter in place ?
[06:49] <SA6BSS-Mike> (thats would explain the low signal)
[06:51] <Darkside> hmm, i thought the RFM98W has a low-pass filter, nt a bandpass?
[06:51] <SA6BSS-Mike> ether way, same impact on the transmitted signal
[06:54] <Darkside> hmm
[06:54] <Darkside> last i played with moving one down that low, the issue was more the second harmonic :/
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[07:58] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03W5KUB-22 after 0316 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W5KUB-22
[08:09] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RSIST after 037 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RSIST
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[08:21] <PE2BZ> Good morning, the RFM module used is this one https://photos.app.goo.gl/pTws48fs7yNZG5ww9
[08:23] <Darkside> ohh so one actually for that band
[08:23] <SA6BSS-Mike> ok, cool, 147/169 Mhz one, didnt know they existed
[08:25] <PE2BZ> PC4L did locate some , just to try. Antenna was 50 cm wire to antenna, no ¨ground plane¨ wire
[08:25] <SA6BSS-Mike> thats the problem then!
[08:25] <SA6BSS-Mike> it was superweak on all the web sdrs
[08:25] <SA6BSS-Mike> even within the "green"
[08:26] <Darkside> humm i need to write some code to fo 4FSK on a RFM98W
[08:26] <Darkside> should be doable, it has the same frequecy twiddling registers
[08:33] <PE2BZ> Darkside, any GPS improvement on the rs41 powersave ?
[08:35] <Darkside> well powersave mode works now
[08:36] <Darkside> the gps needs to have lock before you turn powersave mode on
[08:36] <Darkside> so i added that. still need to try out 'deep sleep' again, where i shutdown the gps entirely
[08:37] <Darkside> well, as much as is possible via software
[08:37] <PE2BZ> Any idea what it ¨saves¨ in this condition ?
[08:38] <PE2BZ> Would also depend on the interval between transmissions I guess
[08:38] <Darkside> i think i can make it keep its almanac and ephemeris
[08:41] <Darkside> i'm learning more and more about the ublox 6 chipset as i go...
[08:47] <SM0ULC-David> cool work guys :)
[08:47] <SM0ULC-David> trying to learn about lora here
[08:50] <Darkside> blehhhhh
[08:50] <Darkside> proprietary protocol
[08:52] <SM0ULC-David> i know
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[08:53] <SM0ULC-David> just playing with ttn-stuff
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[09:44] <Darkside> PE2BZ: well i now have it down to 32ma between transmissions
[09:44] <Darkside> which is better i guess
[09:44] <Darkside> that 32ma is mainly the stm32 busy-waiting... i need to figure out how to make it go into a lower power sleep
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[10:07] <PE2BZ> Darkside, nice ! That´s from 50 mA down to 32 ma which is quite a saving :-)
[10:07] <Darkside> hmm where did you get 50ma from?
[10:07] <PE2BZ> depending on the tx interval about 72 hours for 2 Energizers
[10:08] <Darkside> i havent seen it go as low as 50ma unless the gps is put into powersave mode
[10:08] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03W4FWD-1 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W4FWD-1
[10:08] <PE2BZ> You did an update where the TX was turned of, that´s the moment I measured 50 mA instead of about 90 ma if i recall right.
[10:08] <Darkside> hmm
[10:08] <Darkside> i dont think it went that low
[10:09] <Darkside> it depends what mode the gps it in
[10:09] <PE2BZ> I had one running 36 hours on 2 Energizers. Do I still have that around somewhere....
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[10:10] <Darkside> well the deep sleep mode seems to be working
[10:11] <Darkside> at the moment it wont transmit RTTY and 4FSK in sequence though, so... 4FSK only for now
[10:11] <Darkside> :P
[10:11] <Darkside> code is in the RS41HUP repo
[10:11] <PE2BZ> I won´t argue about the need of RTTY anymore ;-)
[10:12] <Darkside> so anyway, have a lok at the latest code
[10:12] <PE2BZ> Your support with horus-gui proved to be easy enough for the oldtimers.
[10:12] <Darkside> you will need to comment out the CONTINUOUS MODE line, uncomment the DEEP_SLEEP line
[10:12] <Darkside> then set deep sleep to the sleep time you want
[10:13] Action: PE2BZ likes deepsleep between 22:00 and 06 UTC
[10:13] <Darkside> urghhhhhh thats painful
[10:13] <Darkside> pls no
[10:14] <Darkside> anyway would be good if someone else tested this :P
[10:16] <Darkside> the behaviour is that when you start up, it will transmit regularly (spacing determined by the TX_DELAY value), until it has a decent GPS lock (6 sats). at which point it will start the deep sleep cycle. during sleep it will send regular pips
[10:16] <Darkside> and the end of the sleep cycle, it will start up the GPS and send more regular double-pips until it has a valid position, at which point it will transmit, then shut down again
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[10:19] <PE2BZ> Grabbing the hardware atm
[10:19] <PE2BZ> Only 15 left...
[10:19] <Darkside> haha
[10:20] <PE2BZ> Closing the airspace did give one rs41 each day extra from over here.
[10:21] <PE2BZ> Just finished calibrating the ppm for a tcxo rtl for wspr on 144 MHz.
[10:24] <Darkside> updated some notes in teh config..
[10:24] <Darkside> im not sure deep sleep mode + GPS powersave is a good idea
[10:26] <Darkside> suggesting disabling powersave mode when using deep sleep. i suspect the average current draw should still be lower anyway
[10:37] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PE2BZ-4FSK - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PE2BZ-4FSK
[10:39] <PE2BZ> Now I´ll have to wait
[10:40] <PE2BZ> till after the beep :-)
[10:40] <PE2BZ> It beeps ! Nice :-)
[10:42] <Darkside> ...... pip
[10:42] <Darkside> ...................
[10:43] <Darkside> .........
[10:43] <Darkside> pip
[10:46] <PE2BZ> You also beep nicely ;-)
[10:46] <Darkside> just before transmissions, yes
[10:46] <PE2BZ> Double bip to anounce TX ?
[10:46] <Darkside> double pip is when its trying to get GPS lock
[10:46] <Darkside> once it has lock, BEEEEEEEP then transmit
[10:47] <Darkside> if it gets lock prior to having 6 sats, it will actually keep transmitting until it has 6 sats, then sleep again
[10:48] <PE2BZ> Noticed that with the rs41 in the window opening. Moved it to the upper floor under the roof and it was asleep before I reached the radio one stair down ;-)
[10:48] <Darkside> heh
[10:48] <Darkside> so yeah, maybe experiment with differnt sleep times, etc
[10:48] <Darkside> see how it goes
[10:49] <PE2BZ> Running on the batteries which it had when recovered by someone.
[10:49] <PE2BZ> Who sent it to me :-)
[10:49] <PE2BZ> Chrischan, something for you to try too !
[10:49] <PE2BZ> 3 days of rain over here.... Would like to fly one.....
[10:50] <PE2BZ> Hmmmm
[10:50] <PE2BZ> 3 double beeps, then the beeeeeeeep and there it goes !
[10:51] <Darkside> depending on when you grabbed the source, the speed field might be showing pDOP instead
[10:51] <PE2BZ> Might run 2 x 0.75 wire from the bench supply to the sonde....
[10:51] <PE2BZ> Are there AA batteries which report the current drawn over wifi....
[10:51] <Darkside> check if the lines around line567 in main.c are commented out
[10:52] <Darkside> PE2BZ: those might draw more current than the RS41 :D
[10:52] <PE2BZ> Never a dull moment ;-)
[10:53] <PE2BZ> The pdop is commented out.
[10:53] <Darkside> ok cool
[10:53] <Darkside> i was doing that to figure out what i should set the pDOP fix limits to (i threw up a sonde last night to see what the pDOP values would get to)
[10:53] <PE2BZ> I have this chinese mAh meter which I should put inline. Might happen this evening, I have to work this afternoon for a bit....
[10:56] <Darkside> it woud be interesting to measure the cumulative power draw for sure
[10:56] <Darkside> but it would need to be done with a power meter with a fairly fast sample rate i think
[10:56] <PE2BZ> I really like the bips :-) It´s alive and we know it !
[10:57] <Darkside> yup, thats the idea of the bips :-)
[10:57] <Darkside> you know its alive, and you know you're tuned in OK
[10:59] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03AB5SS-13 after 0320 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=AB5SS-13
[10:59] <Darkside> im going to try and send one interstate after im back from christmas, not sure i can float a 100g balloon though, so it might just have to be a realyl slow rise
[11:00] <PE2BZ> I am moving the bench supply to the sonde with the meter together :-)
[11:04] <Darkside> i measured 32mA @ 3v when its in sleep mode and not transmitting a bip
[11:06] <PE2BZ> the chines say 29 mA @ 3.09 Volt :-)
[11:07] <PE2BZ> Delta Power Supply wired to the u-USB powered mAh meter wired to the RS41. Kerberos SDR disabled beacause of lack of u-USB cables ;-)
[11:08] <PE2BZ> Count this as started 11:00 UTC
[11:08] Action: PE2BZ is using zeusbot log as big notepad
[11:09] <PE2BZ> No beeps between TX, 5 minutes sleep time. deep sleep bips every 10 seconds
[11:23] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03N4XWC-1 after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1
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[13:07] <PE2BZ> Darkside, 68 mAh used in the last 2 hours. Nice :-)
[13:12] <Bernd_DL1XH> PE2BZ: I am looking into the config.h now. Would you mind sharing your settings?
[13:13] <Bernd_DL1XH> or using the default?
[13:21] <PE2BZ> Sent to you in seperate IRC window
[13:23] <Bernd_DL1XH> Thanks! ...struggling with the compiling at the moment
[13:52] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03DL1XH-4FSK after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DL1XH-4FSK
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[14:10] <Pete365> Is there a HABHUB user manual?
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[14:38] <Bernd_DL1XH> darkside: i am trying your latest release, the habhub website is showing all correct but 108 satellites??? :-)
[14:57] <SA6BSS-Mike> Pete365: https://ukhas.org.uk/
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[15:07] <Pete365> Is there a users manual for Habhub tracking page??
[15:46] <Chrischan> Oh, a lot has happened here :) I'm curious what the Darkside has implemented for ideas.
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[16:40] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03W4DNQ-15 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W4DNQ-15
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[16:47] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03W4DNQ-14 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W4DNQ-14
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[17:10] <Bernd_DL1XH> pls approve
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[19:41] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03W5KUB-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W5KUB-11
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[20:09] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PS-80 after 0313 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PS-80
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[21:47] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IDA-4FSK after 035 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IDA-4FSK
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[22:06] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Gggggg_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Gggggg_chase
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[23:07] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03N4XWC-1 after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1
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[23:45] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RSIST after 038 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RSIST
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