highaltitude.log.20201017

[00:11] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03LU1ESY-11 after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=LU1ESY-11
[01:49] <SpacenearUS> New position from 034FSKTEST after 0314 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=4FSKTEST
[02:40] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VK4CU_Chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VK4CU_Chase
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[07:01] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PA1SDB after 0313 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PA1SDB
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[08:37] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PA3FNT after 0321 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PA3FNT
[08:37] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PA3FNT-4FSK after 0315 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PA3FNT-4FSK
[08:58] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03DC2EH-12 after 0317 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DC2EH-12
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[09:39] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03icspace22 after 0320 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=icspace22
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[10:09] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03LOGIC - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=LOGIC
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[10:19] <MedadRufus> test
[10:19] <MedadRufus> test again
[10:21] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SQ5RB - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SQ5RB
[10:22] <eor> didn't work
[10:23] <MedadRufus> seems like I can post in #highaltitude but not in #habhub
[10:23] <MedadRufus> I wonder if I need to do some authentication on #habhub
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[10:24] <SA6BSS-9> yes, you need to register you nick
[10:26] <MedadRufus> How do I do that?
[10:27] <MedadRufus> ok I see: https://freenode.net/kb/answer/registration
[10:27] <SA6BSS-9> 👍
[10:27] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SQ5RB-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SQ5RB-11
[10:28] <MedadRufus> Planning to launch ICSPACE22 in an hour or so. Steve Randall will be launching it from Norfolk, UK with pure hydrogen and single aliexpress balloon. Target altitude is 12 000m
[10:28] <dbrooke> or Dave's guide at http://www.daveakerman.com/?p=2658
[10:29] <MedadRufus> dbrooke: thanks for the info
[10:32] <bertrik> i hope all goes well with the lorawan tracking! :D
[10:35] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03CHEESE - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CHEESE
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[10:41] <MedadRufus> Thanks bertrik. The last flight made it to Japan, transmitting on AS923 frequency bands: https://www.union.ic.ac.uk/guilds/icseds/2020/10/icspace21-flight-to-japan-and-icspace20/
[10:55] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03JOTA-CAM-IN-SPA - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=JOTA-CAM-IN-SPA
[10:57] <bertrik> MedadRufus: cool
[11:11] <JohnLaidler_> Best wishes for icspace22. MedadRufus :)
[11:11] <MedadRufus> Thanks John!
[11:11] <JohnLaidler_> Once more into the void.
[11:11] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03N4XWC-1 after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1
[11:12] <MedadRufus> I must credit Steve Randall, who offered to launch ICSPACE22 with his ultra pure stash of hydrogen!
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[11:13] <PE2BZ> Jota cam in space is streaming right before launch time now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsjUW9yehHw&feature=youtu.be
[11:16] <JohnLaidler_> I'm coming round to the conclusion the best route is an SBS balloon and hydrogen - but I will need a bigger piggy bank first. :)
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[11:21] <SA6BSS-Mike> Good luck on the icspace launch!!
[11:21] <SA6BSS-Mike> any prestreach made?
[11:23] <MedadRufus> Prestreched to 0.591psi. In one go. Then sealed with IKEA clips and held there for 24 hours
[11:23] <SA6BSS-Mike> great, just like I do it :)
[11:24] <MedadRufus> Since we are using hydrogen, I think the pressure differential at float altitude will be lower than when using helium
[11:24] <SA6BSS-Mike> I see the ics-21 picks, it can be a bit rough using crocodile clips to hold the boaed, used to do that as weell, I have put some thrinking tube over the claws so its nicer to the pcb :)
[11:24] <MedadRufus> Ah yes good idea
[11:24] <SM0ULC-David> hello
[11:25] <MedadRufus> Hi!
[11:25] <SA6BSS-Mike> yeah, if all the other things is the same , like tracker weight it should do another 8% higher withh2, so around 11200-11400
[11:25] <SA6BSS-Mike> thena David!
[11:26] <MedadRufus> Tracker weight is 6.00 grams, balloon is 37.0grams and netlift for this flight is 5 grams with pure h2. targetting 11000m+
[11:27] <SA6BSS-Mike> it will abolutely make it over 11k and then some
[11:28] <MedadRufus> hopefully all goes well!
[11:31] <SA6BSS-Mike> jota laucnh is iminent
[11:31] <SA6BSS-Mike> wow, no winds at all!
[11:34] <PE2BZ> If all goes well the sky clears up in front of the tracker moving towards where I live :-)
[11:34] <MedadRufus> Hmm. It is transmitting RTTY. I should be able to hear it from the UK
[11:35] <PE2BZ> rtty 300 bd and LoRa mode 3
[11:39] <daveake> launched
[11:43] <MedadRufus> ICSPACE22 launch scrapped :(
[11:43] <MedadRufus> solar cell broke
[11:44] <daveake> :(
[11:44] <daveake> Nearly scrapped this one due to winds
[11:59] <JohnLaidler_> :(
[12:05] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03N6CVO-13 after 0319 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N6CVO-13
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[12:22] <fsphil> nice rainbow, http://ssdv.habhub.org/images/2020/10/17/2020-10-17--12-17-41-JOTA-C-2D19F.jpeg
[12:22] <fsphil> looks like there might be a larger halo around it
[12:24] <PE2BZ> nice catch !
[12:24] <PE2BZ> You get the hires image as reward as soon as I recovered the payload :-)
[12:26] <eor> ooh
[12:26] <eor> wait, what
[12:26] <eor> is your payload transmitting images on rf?
[12:27] <PE2BZ> Yes
[12:27] <PE2BZ> ssdv.habhub.org
[12:27] <eor> 300 baud?
[12:27] <eor> that has to take ages
[12:28] <PE2BZ> Yes and no.
[12:28] <PE2BZ> RTTY for position only @ 300 baud
[12:28] <PE2BZ> images in LoRa mode 3 (high speed) and limited to 1024x768 on TX, locally stored on the SD card at hires
[12:30] <eor> pardon my ignorance, but what kind of transfer speeds are we talking about? and range?
[12:31] <eor> I would assume that your transmitter power is hardly mind boggling
[12:32] <PE2BZ> Power is 13 dBm or 20 mW in a quarter wave (17 cm) wire
[12:33] <Darkside> there are modes for transferring images at higher than 300 baud from balloons...
[12:33] <Darkside> we reguarly fly with 115kbit/s imagery downlinks here in australia
[12:34] <Darkside> ~50mw TX power into a 1/4-wave antenna on the payload, receivable easily 100km+ away with a fairly modest rx setup
[12:34] <Darkside> unfortunately the bandwidth required makes it against the regs in the UK
[12:34] <eor> I was just about to ask
[12:34] <Darkside> at least on the 70cm band
[12:35] <eor> I suppose it all boils down to the bandwidth that you're allowed to consume
[12:35] <PE2BZ> Darkside, horus-gui decodes 300bd 8n2 nicely btw :-)
[12:35] <Darkside> here in australia theres plenty of free spectrum in the 70cm band, and we're allowed to use amateur radio stuff airborne
[12:35] <Darkside> PE2BZ: good to know :-)
[12:36] <PE2BZ> dl-fldigi tunes the RX at PB0AHX and horus-gui does the decoding.
[12:36] <PE2BZ> eor, one image 1024 x 768, about 106 packets, takes roughly 1 minute
[12:36] <Darkside> PE2BZ: that must be pretty highly compressed
[12:37] <Darkside> or just not much on the image :P
[12:37] <eor> reminds me of good old dial-up times :)
[12:37] <Darkside> my 1920x1080 wenet images have maybe 500-1000 packets depending on content, and take about 30-40 seconds to downlink
[12:37] <MedadRufus> Can I confirm the Jota flight is using 434.71MHz USB RTTY ?
[12:37] <MedadRufus> I cannot find it on the Dutch websdrs
[12:38] <PE2BZ> Yes, it´s around 434.711 atm
[12:38] <PE2BZ> MedadRufus, http://websdr.pe2bz.nl:8075/
[12:40] <MedadRufus> Nice. is your websdr always up? or do you turn it off when not flying balloons?
[12:42] <PE2BZ> It´s on my qrl, always on if the wifi link is working. It´s not in the public list however ;-)
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[12:43] <MedadRufus> Thanks for the info!
[12:44] <PE2BZ> One on port 8074 is running the 400 -406 MHz too
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[13:03] <MedadRufus> I am using PE2BZ's websdr but the SNR is poor. I think it may be due to my virtual audio cable sampling at too low samples/s.
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[13:05] <PE2BZ> MedadRufus, try one on port 8082
[13:05] <PE2BZ> choose the airspy in 70 cm
[13:06] <PE2BZ> 400 m away from the other receiver, with Diamond X-50 antenna
[13:06] <MedadRufus> Thanks will try
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[13:16] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PS-80 after 0313 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PS-80
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[13:22] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03LCARS_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=LCARS_chase
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[15:34] <SA6BSS-Mike> looks like JOTA-CAM-IN-SPA actually ment in the SPA
[15:39] <PE2BZ> Tbh, I still see traces in the waterfall over here and recognize the sound of RTTY.
[15:40] <PE2BZ> So it would be upside down if it´s in the water. Finally a floater ;-)
[15:40] <SA6BSS-Mike> cool, its floting then
[15:40] <SA6BSS-Mike> hehe
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[15:47] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PS-76 after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PS-76
[15:48] <SA6BSS-Mike> cool, 76 sitting out in the forset, landed in a tree and calls in every other day
[15:49] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KH6JJD-14 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KH6JJD-14
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[16:10] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KH6JJD-13 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KH6JJD-13
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[17:48] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N9BWT-12 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N9BWT-12
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[18:44] <PE2BZ> ping Darkside if you wake up, the magically thing happened , when I was not looking the horus-gui did the impossible RTTY decode for the jota-cam-in-spa payload and decoded when travelling in the water.
[18:45] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KA9CQL-13 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KA9CQL-13
[19:07] <SA6BSS-Mike> thats the good thing beeing in the Netherlands even the water is at an higher altitude then you ;)
[19:16] <daveake> Logic/cheese recovered earlier today. In a field about 500m walk from the road
[19:16] <daveake> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/wZJvz7Sf/Snapshot_60.png
[19:29] <dbrooke> nice
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[23:10] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03N4XWC-1 after 0312 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1
[23:22] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VK5QI-9_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VK5QI-9_chase
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[23:23] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KS1LAS-1 after 033 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KS1LAS-1
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