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[03:48] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03K9YO-11 after 0312 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=K9YO-11
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[07:04] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PA1SDB after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PA1SDB
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[08:10] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Gman - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Gman
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[08:55] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BABBAGE - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BABBAGE
[08:56] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03CHEESE - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CHEESE
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[09:04] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03LOGIC - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=LOGIC
[09:44] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03X0 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=X0
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[10:06] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SITS-2 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SITS-2
[10:10] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KS1LAS-1 after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KS1LAS-1
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[11:15] <PB0AHX-Herman> !flights
[11:15] <SpacenearUS> 03PB0AHX-Herman: Current flights: 03IDA-4FSK Latex Float 10(3c4b)
[11:27] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03N4XWC-1 after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1
[11:29] <PB0AHX-Herman> somdoby know freq for X0 ??
[11:34] <PE2BZ> april and may flight where mode 0 on 434.420
[11:35] <PE2BZ> I receive RTTY on 434.421 Herman
[11:38] <PB0AHX-Herman> tnx info Ben
[11:39] <Darkside> ahh that was a latex balloon
[11:39] <Darkside> i was wondering
[11:39] <Darkside> PE2BZ: any idea what size?
[11:40] <PB0AHX-Herman> 75bd 400 shift here
[11:41] <PB0AHX-Herman> 450 shift it is
[11:41] <PE2BZ> Darkside, the IDA flight ? small 90 cm advertised latex balloons he bought, a 10 pack
[11:42] <Darkside> ahh ok
[11:42] <Darkside> it worked well!
[11:42] <Darkside> im kind of interested in floating a RS41 interstate, just wondering what the best way to do it is
[11:42] <PE2BZ> Is it possible to have (deep)sleep ?
[11:43] <PE2BZ> 8 minutes sleep, 2 tx, and so on ?
[11:43] <Darkside> theres probably some power saving to be done with both the radio and GPS, yes
[11:43] <Darkside> you'd want to shut the GPS down completely i guess
[11:44] <PE2BZ> I now added an arduino to the power pin of the RS41 to switch it on every 12 minutes, for 3 minutes. But the arduino drops 0.8 Volt on the output pin so the tracker stops at 3.7 V (Li-Ion battery)
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[12:11] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03REG after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=REG
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[14:59] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SITS_Chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SITS_Chase
[15:00] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SLORA1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SLORA1
[15:11] <SM0ULC-David> Lora-question.. for a newbie.... any specific channel selection for balloons?
[15:13] <chris_99> interesting, you mean, the channel for lora communication is fixed? for some reason i thought it might jump between different channels
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[15:18] <PE2BZ> SM0ULC-David, ' channel selection " for The Things network usually random use the 8 available EU channels. For LoRa SSDV usually a frequency / band which fits the general rules for the country and duty cycle and airborn rules.
[15:18] <SM0ULC-David> i was think about the things-network.
[15:18] <SM0ULC-David> ok!
[15:18] <SM0ULC-David> have bought some of the cheap node that one can use for a single-channel-gw
[15:18] <PE2BZ> So with single channel gateway you could pick up 1 out of 8 transmissions on average
[15:19] <PE2BZ> Bertrik jump in ;-)
[15:19] <SM0ULC-David> ok
[15:19] <SM0ULC-David> funky small things :)
[15:19] <PE2BZ> From my mind the first 3 channels allow more power / duty cycle
[15:20] <daveake> You could cycle between a few channels. Maybe do that when airborne, but stick to one when landed to make it easier when chasing (assuming you have single-channel receiver in the car)
[15:21] <SM0ULC-David> daveake: hi, was not planning flying anything soon, but be prepared if a balloon comes close
[15:21] <daveake> Also consider doing regular UKHAS telemetry on a non-LoRaWAN frequency
[15:21] <daveake> Well, you can get an 8-channel gateway for about ¬80
[15:22] <daveake> Which is about the cost of making a single-channel pi gateway
[15:22] <SM0ULC-David> just playing around with a bunch of ttgo-nodes. 10 euro for a esp32+lora+screen
[15:22] <SM0ULC-David> +wifi
[15:22] <daveake> Nice. Just needs GPS :)
[15:23] <daveake> btw there's a new TTGO GSM/ESP32 with, at last, GPS on it
[15:24] <daveake> I asked them for that about a year ago and they replied saying "Yes we'll do it!"
[15:24] <SM0ULC-David> think i saw one of those
[15:24] <SM0ULC-David> :D
[15:24] <daveake> I have the older sans-GPS model which I've added a UBlox to and programmed as a backup tracker
[15:26] <SM0ULC-David> https://www.banggood.com/LILYGO-TTGO-T-Beam-v1_0-ESP32-LoRa-433-or-868-or-915Mhz-WiFi-GPS-NEO-6M-18650-WiFi-bluetooth-Board-Module-p-1609523.html?rmmds=search&ID=510804&cur_warehouse=CN
[15:26] <daveake> Oh, and my coincidence banggood just emailed to say that the ESP32/GPS/GSM is late shipping :(
[15:26] <SM0ULC-David> pretty awesome price
[15:26] <daveake> Yeah that's what I'm flying on Friday
[15:27] <SM0ULC-David> ah
[15:27] <daveake> That's cheaper than usual
[15:28] <daveake> I've got one as a tracker, one as a mobile receiver, and another as TTN tracker
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[15:29] <daveake> This is the receiver one, with BLE link to TTGO watch https://twitter.com/daveake/status/1301526857851056128
[15:30] <daveake> Heavier on power than your typical AVR/PIC tracker, but lots more memory, WiFi, Bluetooth
[15:30] <daveake> Which is how I was able to easily add landing prediction to it
[15:30] <SM0ULC-David> saw that one, really cool!
[15:31] <daveake> Yeah I'll try that out Friday :)
[15:31] <daveake> I've had that as a goal for ages
[15:31] <SM0ULC-David> :D
[15:32] <SM0ULC-David> afk, food, lora l8r!
[15:32] <daveake> Beats dragging an 817 and laptop out into a field :)
[15:35] <daveake> This is the GPS/GSM model, shipping in a few days https://www.banggood.com/LILYGO-TTGO-T-SIM7000G-ESP32-Wireless-Communication-Module-Small-Card-Development-Board-p-1652592.html?rmmds=myorder&cur_warehouse=CN
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[16:54] <bertrik> right, LoRaWAN typically uses 8 frequencies, over 2 bands, with random jumping over those frequencies
[16:55] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03N6CVO-13 after 0318 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N6CVO-13
[17:09] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PS-80 after 0313 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PS-80
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[18:41] <SM0ULC-David> bertrik: will have to read up a bit. any recommendations for 868 mhz antennas? not so easy to find any colinear etc
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[20:03] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SV3CIX/8_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SV3CIX%2F8_chase
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[20:37] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PA1SDB after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PA1SDB
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[23:11] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03N4XWC-1 after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1
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