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[00:01] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03EB2FIZ-11 after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=EB2FIZ-11
[00:25] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SPCLTO - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SPCLTO
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[00:59] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VE3QFP - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VE3QFP
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[07:38] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KN4TPG-1 after 0315 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KN4TPG-1
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[09:04] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PA1SDB after 0312 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PA1SDB
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[09:07] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PA1SDB-4FSK after 0312 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PA1SDB-4FSK
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[09:44] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03YO3ICT-PITS - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YO3ICT-PITS
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[09:59] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03REG after 0321 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=REG
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[10:06] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PE1ANS - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PE1ANS
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[10:15] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03WSP2 after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WSP2
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[10:30] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SITS_Chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SITS_Chase
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[10:52] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SLORA1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SLORA1
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[12:08] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PC4L-R - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PC4L-R
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[12:30] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03EB2FIZ-11 after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=EB2FIZ-11
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[12:55] <_Jordan> Hey, so I found out earlier today that 434MHz is an amateur radio band that you can use in the US. I.. did not know this and pursued a 915MHz tracker option. That option being the FlexTrak (came together quite quick). I am wondering if someone who knows more about radio band allocations can clear this up for me. Seems like the internet is pretty
[12:55] <_Jordan> 50/50 on whether or not 434MHz can be used in the US.
[12:56] <_Jordan> with links to documents if poss
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[12:56] <_Jordan> http://icomamerica.com/en/amateur/amateurtools/US-BandPlan-Update-1-2020.pdf
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[12:57] <_Jordan> this link says that its down to FM simplex which i believe is an amateur radio concept?
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[13:07] <agg> Do you have a US amateur radio license?
[13:08] <_Jordan> No, is there a license exempt option?
[13:08] <agg> You can't use 434MHz license-exempt in the US, they have 315MHz for that I think, and you can't use a UK amateur license airborne in the US, so you'd need a US amateur license to use 434 airborne in the US
[13:09] <_Jordan> Right, good to know, this pretty much conflicts against half the stuff ive seen on google.
[13:09] <agg> If you did have a US amateur radio license you could use 434M airborne in the US
[13:09] <_Jordan> source?
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[13:14] <agg> for which statement? the US amateur frequency allocations are readily available e.g. from http://www.arrl.org/frequency-allocations and list 420-450MHz for CW/phone/image/data, the FCC have the full allocation list https://transition.fcc.gov/oet/spectrum/table/fcctable.pdf in which you won't find an ISM or licence exempt allocation around 430MHz
[13:14] <agg> the general position for this sort of thing is you can't do it unless you're specifically allowed
[13:14] <_Jordan> granted the stuff online is scarce outside of pdfs lol
[13:14] <_Jordan> gotcha, ill read through these links
[13:15] <daveake> agg How difficult was it to get your US license in the UK (practically I mean, not the test itself ) ?
[13:16] <agg> it was very straightforward because I had the good fortune of being a member of CUWS which could organise the test
[13:16] <daveake> heh :)
[13:17] <agg> I think it took a bit of effort and organising on their part to run the test, but they had 3 or 4 candidates who wanted to do it
[13:17] <daveake> Cool. I know Steve has one - did he do it though CUWS ?
[13:17] <agg> you need I think two invigilators and to be a test centre, I don't know how much was involved in getting that set up, I think other UK clubs do also do this occasionally
[13:17] <agg> not sure
[13:17] <daveake> ok ta
[13:17] <agg> the only hard part administratively is you need a US address
[13:18] <agg> to register at, and to receive your documents at, and it can be a PO box, but you can't set up a US PO box remotely
[13:18] <daveake> I could possibly do one in the USA if we're ever allowed in again
[13:18] <daveake> I have plenty of customers in the US so an address would be easy enough
[13:18] <agg> if you have a friend in the US who's ok with their address ending up on the FCC database that's an option
[13:18] <daveake> Yeah I'm sure
[13:18] <agg> if you're physically in the US then I think test centres are widespread
[13:19] <agg> the test itself is very straightforward and you're allowed to sit technician, general, and extra class licenses entirely back to back
[13:19] <daveake> Yes I did look a while back but dates/places didn't coincide with my visit
[13:19] <agg> so long as you don't fail out
[13:19] <daveake> lol
[13:19] <agg> so e.g. they give you technician exam, you complete it, they mark it, you pass, they give you general, etc, extra, etc
[13:19] <agg> can do all 3 inside half an hour or so
[13:19] <daveake> tbh just the technician is enough for HAB so I'd probably just do that
[13:20] <daveake> half hour?!!!
[13:20] <agg> yea but if you have extra class you can apply for a vanity callsign
[13:20] <daveake> wow so nowhere near as hard as here
[13:20] <agg> which can be only 4 characters if you're lucky
[13:20] <agg> or otherwise novelty
[13:20] <agg> (e.g. AD6AM)
[13:20] <daveake> :D
[13:20] <agg> the exam is possibly harder theoretically than the UK, at least for extra class
[13:20] <agg> but there's no practical element, it's entirely multiple choice
[13:21] <agg> and by law all possible questions are published beforehand, so with some revision and practice you can get a fairly good handle on it
[13:21] <_Jordan> what are my license exempt options? 315MHz?
[13:21] <daveake> Well I got advanced here with distinction and I know nuffink really
[13:21] <agg> you can get distinctions here? lol
[13:21] <agg> in the UK you can't do all 3 back-to-back iirc, I had to do foundation and intermediate in one sitting and advanced a week or two later maybe
[13:23] <daveake> Yeah mine were many months apart
[13:23] <daveake> craag got me on the Soton advanced exam
[13:24] <agg> I think we had to pay in US cash too lol
[13:24] <daveake> _Jordan: You can use 915 which iirc is a huge wide band
[13:24] <agg> yea, 915 is the obvious choice for airborne licence exempt
[13:24] <daveake> I have no idea about power limits etc
[13:25] <daveake> internetz should have the info
[13:28] <agg> https://imgur.com/a/nbKx5U4 :D
[13:29] <agg> then i went to the states a few weeks later and spent ages driving around calling cq and no one answered ;(
[13:30] <agg> and for about 15 seconds my rocket was also using my callsign "aeronautical mobile" until it disassembled itself at mach 3, heh
[13:32] <_Jordan> thanks
[13:32] <_Jordan> for info
[13:33] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03K1AMO - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=K1AMO
[13:34] <daveake> Not many callsigns come to grief 15 seconds after use, or indeed at mach 3
[13:44] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BIOWL1_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BIOWL1_chase
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[16:47] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PS-76 after 034 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PS-76
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[17:16] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03K7IRK-15 after 038 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=K7IRK-15
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[18:18] <Chrischan-AA1> Hello, please release for 2be049140641f5e497dc03bed106299c thank you very much
[18:18] <Chrischan-AA1> uepps sorry!
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[18:22] <Chrischan-AA1> Please help #habhub replies with Cannot send to nick/channel
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[18:35] <PE2BZ> Chrischan, I can ask for approvement for you, I think you are not registered with the rigt Nick
[18:35] <PE2BZ> It´s scheduled to launch tomorrow evening, right ?
[18:40] <Chrischan> Thank you. Yes right, tomorrow night is planned. Is my nick assigned to my IP? I don't understand this freenode, sorry
[18:42] <PE2BZ> It´s approved.
[18:44] <Chrischan> I could watch it, two times no and then yes. Why can't I do this alone, what am I doing wrong? many thanks for the help :)
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[18:49] <PE2BZ> You have to register your nick to be able to post messages in #habhub
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[18:50] <PE2BZ> If you did that you have to make sure you use that same nick you registered with
[18:52] <Chrischan> Ah ok thanks, I'll try to register.
[18:55] <PE2BZ> https://www.daveakerman.com/?p=2658
[18:55] <PE2BZ> He wrote an article about that
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[18:58] <Chrischan> Thanks for the link! excuse the slow reaction, i don't know english and have to have google translate everything first.
[18:58] <PE2BZ> Kein Problem ;-)
[18:59] <Chrischan> :]
[19:16] <Chrischan> done, it worked. I wish a nice evening
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[21:09] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PS-80 after 0314 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PS-80
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[23:58] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03EB2FIZ-11 after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=EB2FIZ-11
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