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[00:13] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03EB2FIZ-11 after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=EB2FIZ-11
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[04:47] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PS-76 after 033 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PS-76
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[05:33] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Ariel_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Ariel_chase
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[07:18] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03EB2FIZ-11 after 036 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=EB2FIZ-11
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[09:18] <PE2BZ> gm Darkside
[09:19] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03GSN-TS-2 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=GSN-TS-2
[09:19] <PE2BZ> https://github.com/projecthorus/horusbinary/blob/master/payload_id_list.txt is this the most actual list ? there should be an ID 25 in the list now ?
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[09:24] <Darkside> no
[09:24] <Darkside> PE2BZ: go look at the comment at https://github.com/projecthorus/horusbinary/
[09:24] <PE2BZ> Sorry
[09:24] <Darkside> This repository is being transitioned across to horusdemodlib. The decoders in this repository will remain compatible with the decoders in horusdemodlib, at least for the Horus Binary v1 mode. The Payload ID Lists within this repository will no longer be updated as of July 2020.
[09:27] <PE2BZ> I just followed google " horus binary payload ID " ;-)
[09:28] <Darkside> hmm
[09:28] <Darkside> maybe ill add a note to the top of that file
[09:30] <PE2BZ> but tnx, it' s on the map now. How the guy is able to fry the battery + fuses on 3 RS41 sondes ? I wouldn' t know....
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[09:31] <Darkside> :/
[09:32] <Darkside> putting battereis in backwards id guess
[09:35] <PE2BZ> Bridged it , he can only do that once again now....
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[10:10] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03N6CVO-13 after 0318 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N6CVO-13
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[10:15] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03REG after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=REG
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[11:38] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03M0KVI_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=M0KVI_chase
[11:51] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03N4XWC-1 after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1
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[13:49] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03AB5SS-15 after 0317 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=AB5SS-15
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[14:08] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03f6czy_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=f6czy_chase
[14:31] <eor> Darkside, well, even if you run into RS41-D in the wild. your actual problem is gonna be that it does not report a position
[14:33] <eor> anyways, the FCC has been pushing to reallocate the 1675 .. 1690 MHz band in the US
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[15:13] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N9UMJ-12 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N9UMJ-12
[15:32] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PE2BZ/AM - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PE2BZ%2FAM
[15:36] <PE2BZ> Not that much needed to power a solar tracker .... https://photos.app.goo.gl/iJoPDWTzKRbC6ZWD9
[15:37] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KK6UUQ-2 after 033 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KK6UUQ-2
[15:54] <SA6BSS-Mike> lol , only takes 12 big panels :)
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[17:12] <SM0ULC-David> any recomendations for lora antennas, 868 mhz ?
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[17:59] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BB10 after 0314 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BB10
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[18:06] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03NA9VY-12 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=NA9VY-12
[18:08] <po19> hi guys
[18:08] <po19> can i post here or do i have to register first?
[18:11] <PE2BZ> I guess you can post here I can read your message
[18:11] <po19> oh nice
[18:11] <po19> i've been reading about HABs a little bit on Dave Akerman's website
[18:12] <po19> and one thing that confuses me is the tracker range
[18:12] <po19> the LoRa modules for example have a few kilometers of range
[18:13] <po19> the Radiometrix NTX2B website says it has a 500m range
[18:13] <po19> how does the balloon transmit from ~30km with these?
[18:15] <Tegu> I think the key is in the name: high altitude :)
[18:15] <po19> so they actually can transmit all the way up?
[18:15] <po19> i was thinking perhaps they only transmit when they are near earth
[18:15] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PS-80 after 0313 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PS-80
[18:16] <po19> just about to land and just about to rise
[18:16] <Tegu> nope, they transmit all the time
[18:16] <po19> very interesting
[18:16] <Tegu> from launch to the landing (and a bit afterwards on the ground, of course)
[18:16] <Tegu> "launch"
[18:17] <po19> and is this with a yagi pointed at them, or just with a dipole or something (on the ground)
[18:17] <po19> ?
[18:17] <bertrik> yeah, I always found that a bit peculiar in relation to balloons :)
[18:17] <PE2BZ> If you view the balloons on tracker.habhub.org you get an idea of the receiving range vs the altitude
[18:18] <po19> i know i was just confused how it's possible to transmit from so far
[18:18] <po19> while the specified range is way less
[18:18] <bertrik> po19: it's actually quite amazing indeed
[18:18] <po19> indeed
[18:19] <bertrik> it's because the balloon has no obstacles between it and the receiver
[18:19] <Tegu> the transmit power, antenna nor the wavelength are not that high, so it's quite nice indeed
[18:19] <Tegu> yes, line-of-sight is an important factor
[18:19] <bertrik> so the range is actually mostly limited by the curvature of the earth
[18:22] <Tegu> yup, when you increase the transmitter height, the range of line-of-sight area will increase as well. Wikipedia probably explains it better: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line-of-sight_propagation#Radio_horizon
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[18:24] <po19> thanks for the answers
[18:24] <Tegu> but yea, have a look at the tracker :) the link was posted a bit above
[18:25] <Tegu> btw, it's useful that the sondes transmit for some hours after landing: I've managed to find a couple of them by receiving the signal of a sonde on ground
[18:26] <Tegu> ..or ideally on the ground. Sometimes they are up in a tree so high that they are unreachable although I could see them :D
[18:28] <Tegu> and about the receiving antenna: I don't know what kind of antennas proper receivers use, but I've just used a simple monopole
[18:29] <bertrik> we use a colinear at the hackerspace to receive balloons, it has gain in the horizontal plane, so towards the horizon
[18:29] <bertrik> and a habamp + rtlsdr as the receiver
[18:35] <Tegu> I know too little about antennas and their radiation patterns, so I had to look up a bit. :)
[18:36] <Tegu> but hm, what if the balloon goes right above your colinear antenna setup?
[18:40] <SA6BSS-Mike> ist will work just fine
[18:40] <SA6BSS-Mike> no antenna is perfect, nor on the tx or rx side
[18:41] <SA6BSS-Mike> so it will still have slightly diffrent patern then a thoeretical antenna
[18:44] <Tegu> yup
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[18:48] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03K7IRK - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=K7IRK
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[19:42] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N9UMJ-1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N9UMJ-1
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[20:32] <molo> hi, all. I rembember hysplit predictions being available on tracker.habhub.org, but I'm not seeing it for stations currently aloft. is this available someplace else now?
[20:34] <SA6BSS-Mike> if you want hysplit for a specific flight you ask for it to be aded in habhub channel
[20:35] <molo> SA6BSS-Mike: thank you
[20:35] <SA6BSS-Mike> 👍
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