highaltitude.log.20200919

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[04:01] <Darkside> happysat: good float there lol
[04:42] <OZ1SKY_Brian> im supporting an award for best low altitude float :-)
[04:53] <Darkside> haha
[05:06] <OZ1SKY_Brian> did you find out what the story was with the sonde on 434mhz?
[05:08] <Darkside> it was me
[05:08] <Darkside> i reprogrammed it
[05:08] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ah ok it was you :-)
[05:09] <OZ1SKY_Brian> so i didnt pay attention, i read it as someone else who had launched it
[05:09] <OZ1SKY_Brian> so i was wondering why 434, if it was a metro launch
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[07:59] <PE2BZ> Good morning.
[07:59] <PE2BZ> http://happysat.nl/Float.mp4
[07:59] <PE2BZ> this is the ¨construction¨ :-)
[08:00] <SA6BSS-Mike> Lol
[08:00] <SA6BSS-Mike> nice balloon cluster !! :)
[08:13] <Darkside> bahaha nice
[08:13] <Darkside> so that altitude jump was at sunrise?
[08:47] <PE2BZ> Yes
[08:48] <Darkside> still being received below the horizon
[08:50] <PE2BZ> My rx ( PI6WL-horus) is at 32 m ASL :-)
[09:59] <PE2BZ> https://twitter.com/PE2BZ/status/1307253625060831232?s=20
[09:59] <PE2BZ> never trust the label on an st-link
[10:00] <Darkside> heh
[10:02] <OZ1SKY_Brian> very nice cluster Ben :-)
[10:02] <bertrik> wow
[10:34] <PE2BZ> OZ1SKY_Brian, the red one has now hot glued wires by my standard and goes return to sender. Took me 3 remote hours to come to the conclusion it was better to send the RS41 and ST-link to me....
[10:39] <OZ1SKY_Brian> yeah that sounds like a pain...
[10:52] <PE1ANS> DELTA-5R 434.375Mhz, 100Baud, 600Shift, 7n2
[10:52] <PE1ANS> DELTA-5L 432.700Mhz, LoRa mode 2
[10:53] <happysat> good luck PE1ANS !
[11:00] <PE1ANS> Tnx Alex
[11:02] <PE1ANS> happysat, Payload hardware is een aangepaste versie van "LoraTracker UK"met de software van Roel PD7R "TB Tracker"En een nieuwe GPS module nl. de ATGM336H 🤞🤞Dit keer geen GP antenne voor 434 maar een 1/4 golf "spriet"Volgens het voorbeeld van een RS41 sonde
[11:04] <Darkside> no 4fsk :-(
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[11:09] <Darkside> hey PE2BZ, now your sonde is about to enter the UK, it's going to swtich from 432 MHz into the ISM band, right? > _ >
[11:09] <PE1ANS> Darkside , sorry no 4FSK this time
[11:09] <Darkside> since airborne amateur rdio isn't allowed in the UK
[11:09] <Darkside> < _ <
[11:12] <happysat> oeps :0
[11:12] <Darkside> happysat: also did you see i added a WSL check?
[11:12] <Darkside> to auto_rx
[11:12] <Darkside> plz test when you can
[11:13] <happysat> ow no gonna check
[11:13] <happysat> cool ! im gonna try
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[11:23] <Ron_G8FJG> Sizewell B on full alert for incoming AEROSOL :-)
[11:24] <happysat> i hope it makes land :)
[11:32] <PE2BZ> Darkside, can I blame you for not supporting geofencing ;-)
[11:32] <Darkside> pff no
[11:32] <PE2BZ> np ;-)
[11:34] <PE2BZ> happysat, you must be happy you´re not a radio amateur :-)
[11:34] <Darkside> running on 432 MHz >_>
[11:37] <happysat> 0_o
[11:37] <happysat> 861mters
[11:38] <Ron_G8FJG> going straight over reactor B,,,its over the low tide mark
[11:39] <Ron_G8FJG> and over the sea wall ...well done
[11:41] <happysat> nu nuclair disaster ;)
[11:41] <Ron_G8FJG> averted
[11:43] <happysat> amazing after almost 18 hours this far lol
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[11:54] <PE2BZ> Ron_G8FJG, any refill station nearby ?
[11:55] <happysat> batts are good for another year in a tv remote
[11:57] <Darkside> Ron_G8FJG: can you receive the 4FSK as well?
[11:57] <Ron_G8FJG> the old magnox station might let you have a few spare fuel rods
[11:57] <Ron_G8FJG> no 4fsk capability here at the mo ...
[11:58] <Darkside> https://github.com/projecthorus/horus-gui
[11:58] <Darkside> not hard to set up
[11:58] <Darkside> https://rfhead.net/horus/horusgui/
[11:58] <Darkside> easier than fldigi
[11:58] <Ron_G8FJG> started to get reds now ..there are two mountain ranges between me and AEROSOL
[11:59] <Ron_G8FJG> ill give it a go, put it on to do list ,,,
[11:59] <Darkside> start it up, enter location details, select sound card, click start..
[12:06] <dbrooke> when I saw it yesterday I didn't expect happysat to come in range so my 4FSK rx was off until I noticed it
[12:10] <PE2BZ> dbrooke, you´re the GHZ guy ?
[12:10] <PE2BZ> GZH I mean ;-)
[12:13] <dbrooke> yes
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[12:15] <happysat> good reception very far!
[12:15] <PE2BZ> nice RX indeed!
[12:15] <PE2BZ> We welcome Ron to the 4fsk receivers :-)
[12:16] <Ron_G8FJG> Darkside ..well that was easy... thanks decoding now
[12:16] <dbrooke> that's on a 1/4 wave with habamp at 6m AGL (8m ASL)
[12:16] <PE2BZ> wow!
[12:16] <dbrooke> I should really put it up higher as there's 2m of pole below the bottom bracket
[12:18] <Ron_G8FJG> I'll have to update my position.. seems I've moved into London!!
[12:18] <PE2BZ> Makes the DX even better :-)
[12:21] <Darkside> uh oh, going down faster
[12:21] <Ron_G8FJG> fortunatly still ended up north side of river Thames,you ,dont want to go south
[12:21] <JohnLaidler_> If it makes it down to South West England I'm going to dig my butterfly net out.
[12:24] <PE2BZ> Darkside, it´s following the regulations ;-)
[12:24] <Darkside> lol
[12:24] <dbrooke> antenna on far right of https://stuff.dbrooke.me.uk/sp-evkpkn.jpg
[12:25] <PE2BZ> The one on the left is 868 ?
[12:25] <dbrooke> yes
[12:26] <dbrooke> there are 2 preamps in the box
[12:26] <dbrooke> but I need to wire up the bias-t for 868
[12:26] <Darkside> all gone now it seems
[12:26] <PE2BZ> You knew my next question :-)
[12:27] <dbrooke> https://stuff.dbrooke.me.uk/sp-JnpWxa.JPG
[12:29] <Darkside> neat
[12:29] <Ron_G8FJG> still have a trace, but no decodes
[12:31] <dbrooke> I remove the end panels from the amps and drilled the plate for the screws and SMA connectors https://stuff.dbrooke.me.uk/sp-q0Amac.JPG
[12:35] <Ron_G8FJG> it must still be flying , can still see trace
[12:36] <happysat> lol :)
[12:36] <Darkside> are the freuqency estimators in horus-gui still locked on? (e.g. are they spaced about right)
[12:37] <happysat> ppl must see this colored balloons
[12:37] <happysat> quite a view
[12:37] <Darkside> or are they just jumping around
[12:39] <Darkside> enabling the mask estimator will let it lock on for a little bit longer, but i doubt you'll get a valid decode out of it
[12:40] <Ron_G8FJG> they were spaced ok...I'll get used to what to faf about with on another flight...got some 23cms dx to work see you later thanks for help and flight
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[12:54] <JohnLaidler_> Is anyone watching DELTA-5R? An interesting example of precision ballooning. :)
[12:56] <PE2BZ> JohnLaidler_, as in active receiving and uploading ?
[12:57] <bertrik> JohnLaidler_: I've kept the data stream open for the wiv3n, received no more data, last received data from last week 2020-09-10T16:41:53.78203Z
[12:57] <JohnLaidler_> No, it's probably going to land a few kilometres from the launch site - with added water hazards thrown in for extra fun.
[12:58] <bertrik> if there's a tree, it will hit it
[12:58] <PE2BZ> Yeahh the predictor changed rapidly over night.
[12:59] <PE2BZ> But if precision is good it should land at PC4L ´s receiver location :-)
[13:01] <JohnLaidler_> I fear wiv3n has been lost but it may yet return to Europe. I live in hope. :)
[13:02] <bertrik> ok, I'll keep the MQTT stream open for another week :)
[13:02] <JohnLaidler_> Thank you.
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[13:39] <BRAINLES71> So having little to no experience in radio i'm assuming the first step along the journey to HAB's is to get my amateur radio license?
[13:42] <PE2BZ> BRAINLES71, depends, if following / listening is good to start you don´t need to have a license. Antenna (s) and receiver(s) will be handy to have
[13:42] <BRAINLES71> Thats a good point PE2BZ i hadn't thought about following/listening...
[13:43] <BRAINLES71> I guess either way i would need a setup to track and chase larger payloads.
[13:44] <PE2BZ> If the payload carries a transmitter which sends the GPS position and you can decode that
[13:45] <PE2BZ> No experience at all in listening / receiving HAB´s so far ?
[13:47] <BRAINLES71> No unfortunately not.
[13:47] <BRAINLES71> I have toyed with the idea for many years. My original inspiration was to take photos of the curvature of the earth but i got busy with life and never followed through.
[13:49] <PE2BZ> Where are you from ?
[13:49] <BRAINLES71> I recently found BPS.Space on youtube (high complexity model rockets) and was reminded about this desire. So i have gone back to basics and started looking at Pico transmitters, reading my local aviation legislation (CASA) and getting my radio license
[13:50] <BRAINLES71> Sydney Australia
[13:50] <PE2BZ> You should be asleep ;-)
[13:50] <BRAINLES71> ahh its only 11:50
[13:50] <PE2BZ> Any receiving equipment around? anything like SDR receivers ?
[13:51] <BRAINLES71> Negative but ill add ill add one to the shopping cart
[13:53] <PE2BZ> Start with an easy to get RTL-SDR device, sdr-sharp software for the receiver and famous horus gui software from Darkside who lives ¨close to you¨
[13:53] <PE2BZ> And a groundplane antenna for 420-440 MHz
[13:53] <BRAINLES71> Oh yes i remember looking at project Horus :)
[13:55] <PE2BZ> re-using RS41 trackers which also fly near you you get a cheap and accurate GPS transmitting payload
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[14:11] <BRAINLES71> Thanks PE2BZ
[14:37] <PD3T> Wet feet for Delta
[14:45] <JohnLaidler_> But only 5km from the launch site. Pity the launch site was an island. :)
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[21:53] <Darkside> hm
[21:53] <Darkside> BRAINLES71: email me at vk5qi@rfhead.net
[21:53] <Darkside> ill be out most of today unfotunately
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[21:56] <Darkside> AFAIK there have been no amateur HAB launches in the sydney area, only much further inland. this is to sure the payloads don't end up in the drink
[21:57] <Darkside> there are radiosonde launches i believe twice daily from sydney airport, which you can track with a SDR and radiosonde_auto_rx. again, these often end up landing offshore, but occasionally you get one on land
[21:58] <BRAINLES71> Thanks Darkside I was planning on launching from Parkes to ensure it also doesnt end up in the bush D:
[21:58] <Darkside> yes thats a good idea
[21:58] <BRAINLES71> but for PICO launches i would probably launch past penrith for testing purposes
[21:59] <BRAINLES71> (in the future)
[21:59] <Darkside> pico launches (<50g) you can launch anywhere
[21:59] <Darkside> well, if you dont want to get them back
[22:00] <BRAINLES71> :) happy to release them into their natural habitat :P
[22:00] <Darkside> anyway, starting out by tracking the local radiosonde launches is a good idea. https://github.com/projecthorus/radiosonde_auto_rx/wiki
[22:00] <Darkside> if you can recover a few of those, you can use them as trackers
[22:02] <Darkside> right, gotta go
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