highaltitude.log.20200809

[00:33] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Janesmae_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Janesmae_chase
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[01:41] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KB9MTD_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KB9MTD_chase
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[02:19] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BB10 after 0313 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BB10
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[05:34] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DL4MDW-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DL4MDW-11
[05:35] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PC4L-01 after 0314 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PC4L-01
[05:40] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BZ3a after 0315 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BZ3a
[05:41] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BZ4a after 0314 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BZ4a
[05:44] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03K9APX-3 after 0318 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=K9APX-3
[05:48] <DL7AD_notebook> agg The transmitter woke up and is now transmitting on .606kHz on Eshail.
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[06:17] <JohnLaidler_> Change of frequency. My launch of WIV2N today in SW England will now use LoRa 434.300MHz mode 1, not the frequency announced earlier. Trying to keep legal. :)
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[06:54] <PE2BZ> JohnLaidler_, good idea. Estimated launch time before or after noon ?
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[06:56] <JohnLaidler_> 10:30 UK time or soon afterwards. 11:30 mainland Western Europe.
[06:57] <PE2BZ> Thanks !
[06:57] <PE2BZ> With a bit of tropo it might happen :-)
[07:09] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BIOWL1_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BIOWL1_chase
[07:35] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03jp-tracker after 0317 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=jp-tracker
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[08:08] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03D - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=D
[08:12] <Darkside> ... D
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[08:26] <PE2BZ> Might be a good D
[08:29] <SA6BSS-Mike> D-day
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[08:35] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BSS30 after 0317 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BSS30
[08:35] <PE2BZ> SA6BSS-Mike, GM, did you script also stop ;-)
[08:37] <SA6BSS-Mike> no, unfortunately the balloon did not show today :'
[08:37] <SA6BSS-Mike> :)
[08:38] <SA6BSS-Mike> or wait....
[08:38] <SA6BSS-Mike> w´´noit the new I have outside testing
[08:39] <SA6BSS-Mike> or should I say old, have a handfull old pcb.s laying arounf, and I did like 6 month ago solder up this old heavy 4.5gram board
[08:39] <PE2BZ> Aha. My 2 scripts did stop and so dit PC4l his script. That´s why I was askind.
[08:40] <PE2BZ> Yeahhhh heavy... Don´t sneeze !
[08:40] <PE2BZ> Release is, drop a sandbag every hour :-)
[08:40] <SA6BSS-Mike> yesterdays board was 3,3g and thats I would say rock bottom, cant make them any ligther
[08:41] <bertrik> PE2BZ: I did notice some connection resets with TTN
[08:41] <SA6BSS-Mike> 3,3 total with solar and all
[08:42] <bertrik> The most recent version of ttnhabbridge automatically reconnects to TTN if a connection error happens. Default keepalive interval is 1 minute.
[08:47] <PE2BZ> bertrik, that´s the script which is running for over a week now :-)
[08:49] <SA6BSS-Mike> trying the Pololu programmer, lol, its fast compared to usbasp, you it was done in a blink!!
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[09:23] <PE2BZ> SA6BSS-Mike, would it be possible to wspr with an 328p and use the internal oscillator ? I noticed my 4 MHz resonators are sometimes 4 - 6 kHz below the advertised frequency and it appears not to care about that.
[09:33] <SA6BSS-Mike> I have been thinking about it and will try some experiment with a board and a gps repeater in the freezer to test it,
[09:33] <SA6BSS-Mike> if you look at the datacheet of the 328 you see its internal osc is quite drifty at cold
[09:33] <SA6BSS-Mike> but as we update the time from the gps every 1min54sec it could be possible
[09:34] <PE2BZ> Just to save weight ;-)
[09:34] <SA6BSS-Mike> and one less component to solder :)
[09:34] <SA6BSS-Mike> you could use the 26Mhz xo in the gps to drive the 5351 as well , lol
[09:35] <SA6BSS-Mike> and there you go, 328 5351 and gps , no other components
[09:36] <SA6BSS-Mike> if you use a MAX7c it even have a tcxo which would probably wotk quite well
[09:36] <PE2BZ> When can I order some boards :-) I´d prefer the non QFN
[09:37] <SA6BSS-Mike> I have come to the point I even habdsolder the QFN ics :)
[09:38] <PE2BZ> #metoo.... But mostly because the I2C pins did not connect....
[09:53] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03WIV2N after 0313 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WIV2N
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[10:05] <PE2BZ> Max7c, -40 +85 degrees and 1,65 to 3.6 V.... Fits the flightplans.
[10:05] <PE2BZ> SA6BSS-Mike, price halves when ordering 500 pieces ;-)
[10:08] <craag> note it's the max7q that has the tcxo, not the 7c
[10:09] <SA6BSS-Mike> hehe, wel its kind of cheap on ali, like less then 5$
[10:09] <SA6BSS-Mike> ah, rr, on Q version
[10:10] <SA6BSS-Mike> get startup at about 13° with the Q
[10:10] <SA6BSS-Mike> compared to about 16-17 wiht the C or atgm
[10:11] <PE2BZ> craag, thanks !
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[10:14] <SA6BSS-Mike> PE2BZ: are you scanning Ali :) ?
[10:16] <PE2BZ> sure :-)
[10:16] <PE2BZ> Is it delaying your search ....
[10:17] <SA6BSS-Mike> not much lol
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[10:28] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DK3SB-1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DK3SB-1
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[10:31] <DL7AD_TABLET> We won't launch the tracker today because its way too cloudy here in Berlin. But we will keep it running on the roof for testing.
[10:32] <DL7AD_TABLET> Its transmitting via email qo100 on .605mhz using Olivia 2/125.
[10:32] <DL7AD_TABLET> We will either launch in Monday or Tuesday.
[10:34] <craag> ooo :)
[10:35] <craag> Currently doing WB receiver work but switch over to NB for that later!
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[10:52] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Swallow_chase_2 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Swallow_chase_2
[11:03] <thasti> 20m WSPR payload (double qualatex) launched, relaying to APRS DK3SB-1
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[11:20] <DL7AD_TABLET> craag I will keep the tracker running all day
[11:21] <craag> Thanks, I'll set up later to leave it running over the next few days :)
[11:23] <DL7AD_TABLET> Well its too cloudy today anyway and we will get a thunderstorm tonight
[11:23] <DL7AD_TABLET> So we will optimize things first
[11:29] <dbrooke> I'm receiving it at home but as it has no GPS lock it's not updating on habhub (presumably as it's as a duplicate document)
[11:29] <dbrooke> I GPS lacked my LNB since the previous testing
[11:30] <dbrooke> *locked
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[11:39] <DL7AD_TABLET> dbrooke the issue is that it loses power due to the long transmission.
[11:40] <DL7AD_TABLET> The supercap gets discharged and then it starts all over again.
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[11:40] <DL7AD_TABLET> I need to shorten the message furthermore and let it stop before the capacitor is completely empty
[11:43] <dbrooke> OK, that could also explain why sometimes I don't receive the end of your callsign after the telemetry sentence
[11:44] <DL7AD_TABLET> Exactly
[11:51] <Ron_G8FJG> PE2BZ hi Ben ,,fyi WIV2N is decoding on my kit on 434.300.4 very slowly going hf
[11:53] <PE2BZ> Hi Ron, if it does burst at about 24 km I might have a tiny chance...
[11:59] <Ron_G8FJG> img 40 if you look really close i'm sure you can see Fawlty Towers :-))
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[12:05] <DL7AD_TABLET> Brought the tracker in, to reprogram it
[12:09] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Swallow_Chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Swallow_Chase
[12:19] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03MAD-COW - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=MAD-COW
[12:22] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PH1M-4FSK - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PH1M-4FSK
[12:26] <thasti> hmm, are there any known issues with qualatexes manufactured late 2018? second launch that seem to have failed around 5-6km altitude
[12:34] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Ttgo17_Chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Ttgo17_Chase
[12:40] <Ron_G8FJG> Ben good cndx today can see Mad Cow already, with the coax still busted
[12:41] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03F4igg_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=F4igg_chase
[12:47] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PS-76 after 0319 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PS-76
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[13:09] <DL7AD_TABLET> The EsHail tracker is out again.
[13:11] <DL7AD_TABLET> @ craag thasti
[13:20] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP5WWL after 0320 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP5WWL
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[13:27] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Sp5jrm_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Sp5jrm_chase
[13:43] <SA6BSS-Mike> thasti: wb8elk wrote this
[13:44] <SA6BSS-Mike> WB8ELK> I'm testing out the latest batch of silver foil 36-inch Qualatex balloon date code 2018-08.
[13:44] <SA6BSS-Mike> This batch weighs 38 grams just like the really 2016 vintage batch. It seems to be working just as well as the 2016 vintage.
[13:44] <SA6BSS-Mike> The 2017-04 vintage were terrible and they weighed 33 grams and rarely achieved float...success rate about 25 percent on that batch.
[13:44] <SA6BSS-Mike> So perhaps Qualatex went back to their original manufacturing method but it sure looks like the 2018-08 batch is working well again.
[13:44] <SA6BSS-Mike> 8
[13:44] <SA6BSS-Mike>
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[14:01] <thasti> hmm SA6BSS-Mike, we had good success with 2017-04, the current ones that apparently fail are 12-2018
[14:01] <thasti> but thanks for the info
[14:02] <JohnLaidler_> WIV2N has been recovered. Very many thank to all those who assisted with the tracking.
[14:13] <SA6BSS-Mike> thasti: ok, good to know
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[15:40] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD2UGD-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD2UGD-11
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[15:55] <DL7AD_TABLET> The satellite tracker is running again
[15:55] <DL7AD_TABLET> craag
[15:57] <DL7AD_TABLET> It will be launched on Tuesday because it is raining the next day.
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[16:14] <craag> DL7AD_TABLET: Thanks, I got it on the waterfall a few minutes ago, will be set up for tuesday!
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[16:30] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03N6CVO-13 after 0316 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N6CVO-13
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[17:04] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03W4VA-10 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W4VA-10
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[19:10] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP5YAM after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP5YAM
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[21:18] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DL2623-4_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DL2623-4_chase
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[22:22] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03YH81LU_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YH81LU_chase
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[23:31] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03N4XWC-1 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1
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