highaltitude.log.20200722

[00:17] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PS-76 after 0314 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PS-76
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[01:19] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03FLEXTRAK_Chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=FLEXTRAK_Chase
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[03:02] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03sammy-ttn after 0314 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=sammy-ttn
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[04:31] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BIOWL1_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BIOWL1_chase
[05:44] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SA6BSS/AM after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SA6BSS%2FAM
[05:53] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SA6BSS-7 after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SA6BSS-7
[06:01] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP8ESA after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP8ESA
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[06:27] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KM6BWB-10 after 0312 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KM6BWB-10
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[06:44] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03FLEXTRAK_Chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=FLEXTRAK_Chase
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[06:49] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IT9FKM after 033 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IT9FKM
[06:51] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03HAB_Chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HAB_Chase
[06:55] <bertrik> pd7r: PE2BZ: did you see? sammy-ttn got a fix near kazachstan
[06:57] <SA6BSS-8> it have good chance of circumnaviagte, hopefully it comes in over europe on its final leg
[06:57] Nick change: SA6BSS-8 -> SA6BSS-Mike
[06:59] <pd7r> Somebody bought a gateway with the wrong frequency I guess
[07:01] <SA6BSS-Mike> or a multi freq onr, its says its on a uni?
[07:03] <SA6BSS-Mike> probably not, cant find any info
[07:04] <pd7r> Me neither. But still nice it got a fix.
[07:06] <bertrik> the only relevant info I can find is that it's owned by TTN user kvenecusghost
[07:07] <bertrik> probably same person as github profile https://github.com/Kvenecusghost
[07:11] <pd7r> Yes, good one
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[09:01] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Skybloonchase_Chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Skybloonchase_Chase
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[09:21] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SP8ESA-12 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP8ESA-12
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[09:56] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Woodpecker55_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Woodpecker55_chase
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[10:11] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BZ3a after 0320 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BZ3a
[10:20] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03F4igg_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=F4igg_chase
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[11:15] Action: PE2BZ is in a bad mood. Latest wspr tracker with the program tab removed, programmed and tested, had 98 percent decodes at home. When powered from solar, <10 percent decoded. removed 6 solar cells, connected to battery, > 90 percent decodes. Built new solar, < 10 percent decodes.
[11:16] <PE2BZ> Even tuned the radio to have the signal exactly in the center but still no luck. Did anyone ever experience RF feedback in solar panels ?
[11:20] <PC4L> https://ibb.co/stNPhG6
[11:20] <SA6BSS-Mike> PE2BZ: picture
[11:20] <PC4L> You give me sun, I´ll give you an answer
[11:20] <SA6BSS-Mike> :)
[11:20] <PE2BZ> SA6BSS-Mike, of the tracker ?
[11:20] <SA6BSS-Mike> PE2BZ: yes
[11:22] <PE2BZ> You can wait till I´m home can you ?
[11:23] <SA6BSS-Mike> sure
[11:23] <SA6BSS-Mike> it pizza time over here :)
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[11:31] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PC4L-01 after 034 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PC4L-01
[11:39] <JohnLaidler_> ++++
[11:46] <SpeedEvil> PE2BZ: does it do it with no sun?
[11:47] <SpeedEvil> Oh - nvm if no battery in addition, misread
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[13:02] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03N4XWC-1 after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1
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[13:46] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 034Z7HKA_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=4Z7HKA_chase
[14:08] <PE2BZ> https://photos.app.goo.gl/cmXG8EDTwEmQzdVi9
[14:08] <PE2BZ> SA6BSS-Mike, and all other interested in my trial and errors
[14:10] <SA6BSS-Mike> So it tx as it should, you see it in the waterfall of wsjtx but it does not decode?
[14:10] <SA6BSS-Mike> whn on solar only
[14:11] <PE2BZ> Sometimes the frist transmission gets decoded, sometimes nothing, very rare only the telemetry gets decoded.
[14:12] <PE2BZ> Tried the home RX with , without antenna, with attenuator,
[14:12] <SA6BSS-Mike> so it tx full wsrp 2min
[14:12] <PE2BZ> Added one image wiht screenshot from the wsjt-x waterfall
[14:12] <PE2BZ> It transmits quite well for the cloudy sky
[14:13] <PE2BZ> yes on minute 6 and telemetry on minute 8
[14:13] <SA6BSS-Mike> rr
[14:14] <PE2BZ> Now I dropped the complete 5m17 from the roof downwards, which gives an improved signal at home, which shows in the image.
[14:15] <SA6BSS-Mike> if anything I think it looks like in the waterfall that the tx is a bit unstable, if it changes more then 4hz during a tx seq it wsjtx will have a hard time decoding
[14:17] <SA6BSS-Mike> where did you get your tcxo?
[14:17] <SA6BSS-Mike> link?
[14:21] <PE2BZ> https://www.digikey.nl/product-detail/en/TXETBLSANF-27.000000/1664-1269-1-ND/6126580?utm_medium=email&utm_source=oce&utm_campaign=3311_OCE20RT&utm_content=productdetail_NL&utm_cid=846354&so=65027134&mkt_tok=eyJpIjoiWWpWaVlXWTVObU16TTJSaSIsInQiOiJ4NHF1azBhM2ExXC92OXRzZENzcDArM3dvKzBZdlUzN3NKbFFPeUIxaHg0MFFUb2tCaWF4MCt6UFFNcHIxb0hmOVVrdythZG1taWh0cWxPNXZPeDNCeTFxbzVvUjZlUnF4aW9PeUY5YlZtUFBMd2h0cmV2OEgzbkw0OGdsN2o1ejAifQ%3D%3D
[14:23] <SA6BSS-Mike> spec looks good
[14:25] <SA6BSS-Mike> I think its the tcxo that acts up, easiest way to test one out of two thing, put some foam over the tcxo to see if thing clears but as you say it works on battery and not on solar its more likly to be a volatge feeding the board thing
[14:27] <SA6BSS-Mike> you can probably desolder a 26Mhz tcxo from one of your rs41 sondes and test with
[14:27] <SA6BSS-Mike> but ok, no programming head....
[14:30] <PE2BZ> Oscilloscope software, on audio out 1588.5 to 1594.7 Hz ? Seriously ? There´s a triplel somewhere
[14:32] <PE2BZ> As can be seen on https://photos.app.goo.gl/dQWjidYsTTStbr2J7 the PCB is covered around by foam, it´s 22 degrees outsidde, with only a bit wind. On the other hand, yesterday evening in the sun, behind the window, pointed to the west, it appeared to decode better. 5 out of 6 in an hour. There is no sun to point to now....
[14:46] <SA6BSS-Mike> so, most point to unstable voltage supplying the board, thought i had one 27Mhz good tcxo left, Il keep looking , if I find it I l send it to you, if so il pm you
[14:47] <PE2BZ> I have now swithced to battery. Cut the 2 wires to the solar and wired them to 2 energizers
[14:48] <SA6BSS-Mike> ok, let us know hw it goes
[14:48] <PE2BZ> I have 9 tcxo´s left. I can replace it after removing the solar panels
[14:49] <SA6BSS-Mike> its not that one is bad it probably the 2,8-3,6V thing
[14:49] <SA6BSS-Mike> Im looking for 1,8-3,6 to get good stabilety
[14:50] <PE2BZ> I must say that this series of solar was a pita to solder the bottom.
[14:50] <SA6BSS-Mike> just low temp on the iron 335° and use the "best" solder, the one with no% on the label
[14:50] <SA6BSS-Mike> easy peazy
[14:51] <PE2BZ> What´s no% ?
[14:51] <PE2BZ> Temperature is right :-)
[14:52] <SA6BSS-Mike> search on ali on "best solder"
[14:52] <PE2BZ> Tried aceton and flux, did not work well.
[14:52] <SA6BSS-Mike> get one with no % of the mix
[14:52] <PE2BZ> Ali ? I am searching my drawers ;-)
[14:52] <SA6BSS-Mike> just saying :)
[14:54] <PE2BZ> I can find AA % ...
[14:55] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DL2623-4_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DL2623-4_chase
[14:55] <SA6BSS-Mike> yes, try that
[15:08] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03AIRCOR-3 after 0314 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=AIRCOR-3
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[15:18] <PE2BZ> SA6BSS-Mike, it´s the panels... I have now tried 20 of them, of which 2 succesfully soldered. With the same solder I tried 6 52x52 and 19X52 mm which all soldered as expected. They where given to me from an order from 2016 so it might have imporved a bit ;-)
[15:18] <PE2BZ> Tracker now inside, on battery, with the full 5m17 wire through the room :-)
[15:19] <SA6BSS-Mike> getting any spots on wspr :)
[15:19] <SA6BSS-Mike> no
[15:19] <SA6BSS-Mike> no dx :)
[15:20] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03F4igg_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=F4igg_chase
[15:20] <SA6BSS-Mike> can you adjust the temperature of you soldering iron?
[15:21] <SA6BSS-Mike> thats the main thing soldering solar cells, you only need to find a solder that melt well at 330°
[15:21] <PE2BZ> Yes, it´s a 150 - 450 degrees Weller. My laser meter says it´s 340 degrees now. All other solar cells do solder without problems.
[15:21] <SA6BSS-Mike> I think the solder is not much different more then most I tried at 330 did ju turn to goo
[15:21] <SA6BSS-Mike> oki, then :)
[15:22] <SA6BSS-Mike> oh, must try that, my weller have a digital readout, lets see how accurate that is :)
[15:23] <PE2BZ> http://datasheets.content4us.com/en-us/21643
[15:23] <PE2BZ> The datasheet shows no information ....
[15:25] <SA6BSS-Mike> if it work well on other solar cells you have then all is fine
[15:25] Nick change: BitEvil -> SpeedEvil
[15:25] <PE2BZ> Now let´s wait a minute for my callsign to appear...
[15:26] <PE2BZ> 17:18 I have 4 049IEO decodes at different dB values.
[15:26] <SA6BSS-Mike> if you want to use those cells you can try to pre solder the wires, that usuly help, or hotair solder and solderpaste
[15:27] <PE2BZ> Well, I received them with fluxpen, solder band, and the comment ¨I hope you have more patience and success¨ So far for my patience ;-)
[15:27] <SA6BSS-Mike> hehe
[15:27] <PE2BZ> They came with 6 Qualatex 36 inch :-) And for free...
[15:27] <SIbot> In real units: 36 inches = 0.9 m
[15:28] <SA6BSS-Mike> cool!
[15:28] <SA6BSS-Mike> you read this ? https://groups.io/g/picoballoon/topic/good_36in_qualatexs/75482065?p=,,,20,0,0,0::recentpostdate%2Fsticky,,,20,2,0,75482065
[15:29] <SA6BSS-Mike> good to know if you gona send of Qualtex
[15:29] <PE2BZ> Have applied for membership ;-)
[15:30] <PE2BZ> 1526 -8 0.3 14.097037 -1 PE2BZ JO21 10 77
[15:30] <PE2BZ> 1526 8 0.3 14.097087 -1 PE2BZ JO21 10 77
[15:30] <PE2BZ> 1526 1 0.5 14.097137 -2 PE2BZ JO21 10 77
[15:30] <PE2BZ> 1526 24 0.6 14.097187 -2 PE2BZ JO21 10 77
[15:30] <PE2BZ> 1528 -11 0.7 14.097036 0 049IEO RM67 7 10030
[15:30] <PE2BZ> 1528 5 0.8 14.097086 0 049IEO RM67 7 10030
[15:30] <PE2BZ> 1528 -3 0.7 14.097136 -1 049IEO RM67 7 10030
[15:30] <PE2BZ> 1528 21 0.8 14.097186 0 049IEO RM67 7 10030
[15:30] <PE2BZ> Sorry, to much text ;-)
[15:31] <SA6BSS-Mike> yeah, I m looking on wspr map on your cal
[15:31] <SA6BSS-Mike> l
[15:32] <PE2BZ> ¨Too long interval, breaking 0:12:00 :-(
[15:33] <PE2BZ> ctrl-c and restarted :-)
[15:33] Action: PE2BZ is going to fix some dinner.... We can´t all have Pizza time, can we ?
[15:35] <SA6BSS-Mike> yes you can, you deserves it!! :)
[15:35] <PE2BZ> :-) I will tell the xyl :-)
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[16:16] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD0VYQ-1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD0VYQ-1
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[17:29] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03LU1KCQ-11 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=LU1KCQ-11
[17:44] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DC2EH-14 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DC2EH-14
[18:11] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD0AWK-12 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD0AWK-12
[18:12] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD0AWK-13 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD0AWK-13
[18:23] <PE2BZ> SA6BSS-Mike, thanks for the pizza ;-)
[18:23] <PE2BZ> old tcxo https://photos.app.goo.gl/S2ddUh8XnPSjqskB8
[18:24] <PE2BZ> new tcxo https://photos.app.goo.gl/2tzrSvdvn71x3hi76
[18:29] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD0AWK-9 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD0AWK-9
[18:29] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD0AWK-8 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD0AWK-8
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[19:00] <SA6BSS-Mike> but the seccond pic is on battery?
[19:00] <PE2BZ> yes
[19:00] <PE2BZ> the first also
[19:01] <SA6BSS-Mike> you have a hallogen lamp to test solar inside?
[19:01] <SA6BSS-Mike> aha
[19:01] <SA6BSS-Mike> it looks much better !
[19:01] <PE2BZ> It also decodes 100 percent :-)
[19:02] <SA6BSS-Mike> any sun stil up to test outside?
[19:02] <PE2BZ> Might have been a bad V+ contact ...
[19:02] <SA6BSS-Mike> rr
[19:02] <PE2BZ> No, just behind the last tree
[19:02] <SA6BSS-Mike> oki
[19:03] <SA6BSS-Mike> let us know how it works on solar when had a chance to test
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[19:31] <PE2BZ> SA6BSS-Mike, it´s prepared, if it´s on the map tomorrow it will be solar powered.
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[19:59] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BB10 after 0314 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BB10
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[21:28] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KC7VQR-11 after 036 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KC7VQR-11
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[23:15] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03F4igg_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=F4igg_chase
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