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[01:18] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03K0DEZ_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=K0DEZ_chase
[01:18] <Darkside> Pit[m]: that cidebase is unreadable
[01:19] <Darkside> i think its also missing the band scan stuff thay autorx needs
[01:20] <Darkside> if someone wanta to figure out how to interface to it....
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[03:37] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03OD07V6317_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=OD07V6317_chase
[03:50] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03OR07Z0139_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=OR07Z0139_chase
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[04:06] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PR8KW-10 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PR8KW-10
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[04:36] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03W5KUB-18 after 0313 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W5KUB-18
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[05:27] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KD2KDD-15 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD2KDD-15
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[06:11] <SM0ULC-David> Darkside: hi, yes, i noticed that
[06:26] <SM0ULC-David> Darkside: good approach to avoid closed software
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[06:47] <PC4L> on the search for the pc4l balloon I´m looking for a websdr in the 434 range in Switerland or North Italie. Anyone knowing one?
[07:17] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> PC4L: http://www.globaltuners.com/receiver/1091
[07:19] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BB10 after 0314 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BB10
[07:26] <PC4L> thx Mike.. will try later on this one ... [07:25] * Tuning has been disabled for guest users.
[07:26] <PC4L> [07:25] * Tune: you can not tune this receiver because it is in use by someone else.
[07:26] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> what freq is it on?
[07:27] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> the rtty
[07:27] <PC4L> 434.6329
[07:32] <PC4L> it is still sending $PCL-RTTQ$6,07:31:45,43.29044,10.65760.8741,9,2206*A45
[07:33] <PC4L> looks like near Pisa
[07:34] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> where do you hear it?
[07:34] <PC4L> sharpsdr server
[07:34] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> ok
[07:38] <PC4L> https://ibb.co/0K1gkQx
[07:39] <PC4L> so it´s flying the wrong direction :)
[07:43] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> whats the shift and boud
[07:43] <PC4L> 200bd shift 600
[07:43] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> 600
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[07:47] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> I can get it on habhub map, whats the beginning of the call ?$PCL-RTTQ$6
[07:47] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> thats not correct I guess
[07:48] <PC4L> yes yes
[07:48] <PC4L> $$PCL-RTTY
[07:49] <PC4L> $$PC4L-RTTY
[07:49] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> and then time
[07:49] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> ?
[07:50] <PC4L> time,lat,lon,alt,sat,bat:crc
[07:50] <PC4L> bat is always 2206 ;)
[07:50] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> PC4L-RTTY07:31:45,43.29044,10.65760.8741,9,2206
[07:50] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> PC4L-RTTY.07:31:45,43.29044,10.65760.8741,9,2206
[07:50] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> ?
[07:50] <PC4L> yep
[07:51] <PC4L> and an ID of course
[07:51] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> ?
[07:52] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> ah, then it will be to complicated to make a correct crc
[07:52] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> guess its a 3or4 letter nr
[07:53] <PC4L> searching for a correct string..hold on
[07:53] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> ok
[07:55] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> or to allmost correct and I try fix one of them
[07:55] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> *one
[07:56] <PC4L> yes, the one above was the best I had, but missing the last CRC number/letter is hard quessing
[07:58] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> so pate two other strings
[07:58] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> *paste
[07:58] <PC4L> it is out of range now.. the other ones were useless.. let me copy/paste
[07:59] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> rr
[07:59] Nick change: SA6BSS-Mike|2 -> SA6BSS-Mike
[07:59] <PC4L> $$$PC4L-RTVY,63,07W^wV
[07:59] <PC4L> 9"O0MA9YUMEE8741,9t{006+L790
[07:59] <SIbot> In real units: 9 in = 22.86 cm
[07:59] <PC4L> hihihi
[08:01] <SA6BSS-Mike> :)
[08:03] <PC4L> no hab fanatics on the thousands of 2kW screamers :)
[08:08] <SA6BSS-Mike> there is a auto_rx station on Corse (corsica?) try mail him if he can rx it
[08:08] <SA6BSS-Mike> TK4LS
[08:10] <PC4L> good plan..
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[08:17] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PS-76 after 0313 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PS-76
[08:17] <PC4L> now we wait :)
[08:18] <SA6BSS-Mike> :)
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[08:20] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03IT9EWK-12 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IT9EWK-12
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[08:33] <ON4AOL> Hoe is het nog geweest ?
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[08:43] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03IT9ZOB - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IT9ZOB
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[09:14] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03IT9ZOB-12 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IT9ZOB-12
[09:33] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RJL-PiZ after 034 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RJL-PiZ
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[10:26] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PC4L-RTTY after 0317 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PC4L-RTTY
[10:33] <PC4L> answer from TK4LSGood news, I can hear your balloon, big signal,
[10:33] <PC4L> That's what I can decode:
[10:33] <PC4L> $PC4L-RTTY,326,10:16:06,42.09937,10.20965,8698,10,2206*131A
[10:33] <PC4L> $PC4L-RTTY,328,10:17:21,42.09076,10.20684,8698,10,2206*D6C7
[10:33] <PC4L> $PC4L-RTTY,330,10:18:35,42.08223,10.20414,8700,10,2206*635D
[10:33] <PC4L> WHOOHOO
[10:34] <PC4L> I manualy uploaded a string so maybe someone will tune in when it´s now visable
[11:11] <SpeedEvil> :)
[11:13] <PC4L> now asking IZ0FKE from Rome to expand his websdr :)
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[12:54] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03pb0ahx_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=pb0ahx_chase
[13:06] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03AIRCOR-3 after 0320 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=AIRCOR-3
[13:10] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03JM84 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=JM84
[13:41] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03JimmyInSpace - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=JimmyInSpace
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[18:31] <PE2BZ> OZ1SKY_Brian, Good evening. Plan to fly again this thursday, hope to be in reach on friday :-)
[18:32] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Hi Ben, cool hope it hear my first lora :-)
[18:33] <OZ1SKY_Brian> better setup some remote, if its during working hours it passes, we´ll see when its up
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[19:16] <JohnShephard> Dear All,
[19:19] <JohnShephard> Sorry, finger trouble. Im starting my first HAB project but am having trouble with sorting out tracking. Radios seem expensive to buy, is there another cheaper way to let me track and retrieve? Many thanks
[19:22] <SA6BSS-Mike> an rtl radio is 25$ and should get you settled, then a small antenna, or go with the 35$ kit and you have antenna as well
[19:22] <SA6BSS-Mike> https://www.rtl-sdr.com/buy-rtl-sdr-dvb-t-dongles/
[19:22] <SA6BSS-Mike> plus a computer but thats probably not a problem
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[19:25] <bertrik> nice ducting of LoRa over the north sea?
[19:25] <bertrik> https://tracker.habhub.org/#!mt=roadmap&mz=8&qm=1_day&mc=51.89722,2.16133&f=xttn&q=!RS_*;
[19:25] <bertrik> from UK coast to Rotterdam
[19:26] <russss> this is a good ducting map, it's not showing anything there at the moment but there is quite a bit over europe http://aprs.mennolink.org/
[19:26] <russss> that's VHF freqs though
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[19:27] <SA6BSS-Mike> here is one as well http://www.dxinfocentre.com/tropo_nwe.html
[19:27] <SA6BSS-Mike> click the map for forecast
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[20:33] <SM0ULC-David> evening!
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[20:58] <ijmunro> Hello! I don't mind admitting, after a week of research, I am woefully out my depth trying to get up to speed on balloon launch requirements, tech and regulations. I reckoned it would be a cool project for me and my son to get into but now that I see the enormity of it, I could use some guidance!
[21:03] <SM0ULC-David> Have you read Dave's excellent guide?
[21:03] <SM0ULC-David> http://www.daveakerman.com/?p=1732
[21:06] <ijmunro> I have indeed.
[21:07] <ijmunro> I am certainly not struggling with a lack of information, its an excellently documented activity. I am however suffering from information overload and I guess was really trying to find out what specifically i should be focussing in on.
[21:09] <ijmunro> Balloon, chute, box etc, no problems. Camera, power also no issue. Tracking at ground level, have that sorted assuming it doesn't stop working in flight! Tracking however, thats where I come unstuck. I have a software/hardware background but the choices seem to be endless of what direction to head in and wondered what experienced people would
[21:09] <ijmunro> recommend for a newbie.
[21:10] <ijmunro> Was also hoping not to spend the earth first time around but would love to give it all the best chance of success.
[21:11] <ijmunro> And finally, is it possible, once we are all free to run around the country, to hook up with someone else who is doing a launch to see how it all is supposed to work!
[21:12] <PC4L> the country is the UK I assume :)
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[21:15] <ijmunro> Sorry, yes. And even more complicated, Scotland.
[21:17] <PC4L> do you need to ask permission to launch a balloon in Scotland?
[21:19] <ijmunro> Yes, I believe all of the UK requires permission.
[21:20] <PC4L> R U sending pictures over the air or just recording it to SD card?
[21:21] <ijmunro> I planned to just record to SD. I have a GoPro 3 which I plan to use.
[21:21] <ijmunro> How successful are images over the air?
[21:21] <PC4L> then no party balloon for you :)
[21:22] <PC4L> http://ssdv.habhub.org/
[21:22] <SA6BSS-Mike> then just go recover a rs41 and reprogram :)
[21:22] <ijmunro> Darn! I had a nice peppa pig one picked out.
[21:22] <PC4L> there´s is not much 2 see right now.. there must be some examples available
[21:24] <PC4L> http://pe2bz.synology.me:6080/photo/?fbclid=IwAR2OnL_yNFayUFJHgHh6N9lnPOR1j9QIw88-NL_jMKm5DtH2qRVjfF2nH04#!Albums/album_48414220416c62756d73/album_48414220416c62756d732f323031392d31312d31302057656e6574205043344c
[21:24] <ijmunro> Its OK, I am happy with the gopro option just now. So on to tracking and ultimately recovery, any advice which setup is most common?
[21:25] <ijmunro> Thats superb.......
[21:26] <SA6BSS-Mike> buying or building?
[21:27] <ijmunro> I planned to build because I can.
[21:27] <PC4L> I think Mike is going to sent his link :)
[21:27] <ijmunro> But if the cost of parts = cost of buying, I am delighted to puchase!
[21:28] <SA6BSS-Mike> so many any and so split up :) but no cheap ones arround realy
[21:29] <PC4L> well an arduino pro mini with chinese gps and lora module is not the world?!
[21:29] <ijmunro> I have an uno but that may be overkill?
[21:30] <PC4L> not if you recover :)
[21:31] <ijmunro> Well indeed. I was thinking more from a size and weight point of view....
[21:31] <PC4L> have you read the PITS project? https://www.pi-in-the-sky.com/
[21:33] <ijmunro> I saw it yes but its out of stock and also £150!
[21:33] <ijmunro> I do have a spare Pi 3 also though....
[21:38] <PC4L> for me the easiest one is de pro mini, solder some wires to a gps and lora module and use one of the many HAB sketches around and you´re good to go for a few $$
[21:39] <PC4L> I also flied with this one https://www.makerfabs.com/maduino-lora-radio-433m-868m-915m.html?search=lora%20433
[21:39] <PC4L> lora already installed.. just add a gps your tracker is alive
[21:40] <PC4L> you can use lora and rtty tx
[21:42] <ijmunro> amazing. That makes a lot of sense
[21:46] <PC4L> https://ibb.co/Mn4g074
[21:47] <PC4L> my first one.. not very proud of it HI
[21:48] <PC4L> https://ibb.co/Tk1pn8y
[21:49] <PC4L> there is so much to build anything.. just start! :)
[21:50] <ijmunro> Good advice!
[21:50] <ijmunro> I love the solar panel option.....
[21:50] <ijmunro> Thank you, super useful
[21:50] <ijmunro> I shall start procuring electronics tomorrow
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[21:57] <PC4L> If you are a real pro you can build Mike´s little thing.. I thought I bookmarked it, but can find it that quick.. can you sent de link again #SA6BSS-Mike with your tracker?!
[21:58] <SA6BSS-Mike> not mine but I have simplified it and made some eagle files for it
[21:58] <SA6BSS-Mike> https://www.qsl.net/sa6bss/hab.html
[21:58] <SA6BSS-Mike> read the main page , then my small edit
[22:00] <PC4L> I wish I was a pro :)
[22:01] <SA6BSS-Mike> it time to go to bed, gn all
[22:02] <PC4L> ijmunro must like the word cheapo ... GN
[22:23] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03On4cdr_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=On4cdr_chase
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