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[05:22] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SA6BSS-12 after 0313 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SA6BSS-12
[05:57] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SQ9GOL-6 after 033 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SQ9GOL-6
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[07:26] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BSS24 after 0315 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BSS24
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[07:49] <OZ1SKY_Brian> SA6BSS-Mike just -10 missing atm, maybe later :-)
[07:50] <SA6BSS-Mike> hi, gm
[07:51] <SA6BSS-Mike> :) yes, its out of aprs network, it travels fast and should be over China aprs by tomorrow midninght our time
[07:51] <OZ1SKY_Brian> next time put a ads-b on it :-)
[07:53] <SA6BSS-Mike> hehe, yep, or satlte tracker like the ubseeds did :)
[07:54] <SA6BSS-Mike> have played wit the toughts of iss digipeather but it semms to unrelible, to few uploading the digipeaters / monitoring the 145.825
[07:55] <OZ1SKY_Brian> made an order for one of those dual band lora board upu makes, looking forward to some new stuff to play with
[07:55] <OZ1SKY_Brian> yes i dont think the ISS digipeater is of much use
[07:56] <OZ1SKY_Brian> brb
[08:02] <OZ1SKY_Brian> needed some coffee
[08:03] <SA6BSS-Mike> yes, its backwards this summer time, you end up out of sync
[08:03] <OZ1SKY_Brian> on duty call, so need to be ready :-)
[08:04] <SA6BSS-Mike> ah, ok, you work in the harbour?
[08:04] <OZ1SKY_Brian> no tele infrastructure
[08:05] <OZ1SKY_Brian> the danish telia if you like
[08:05] <SA6BSS-Mike> ah, ok,
[08:05] <SA6BSS-Mike> rr
[08:11] <OZ1SKY_Brian> btw do you know sm6tlx?
[08:12] <SA6BSS-Mike> no, affraid not
[08:12] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ok, just see he´s running a very old auto_rx
[08:13] <SA6BSS-Mike> ah, ok
[08:13] <OZ1SKY_Brian> 1.1.3.3 va 1.3.1 :-)
[08:14] <SA6BSS-Mike> is he rx:n daily?
[08:14] <OZ1SKY_Brian> i think so, ive seen some decodes from him, he´s also on radiosondy
[08:14] <SA6BSS-Mike> ok
[08:15] <OZ1SKY_Brian> but not the danish dfm´s, as they are blocked on versions below 1.3 due to callsign changes on aprs and habhub
[08:18] <SA6BSS-Mike> ok, I see some twitter notes and some improvements on the habhub backend as the auto_rx develops
[08:19] <OZ1SKY_Brian> yes something about not making a new flight doc for every sonde, but im not too much into how that works
[08:20] <OZ1SKY_Brian> reuse of flight docs i would think, to take some load off
[08:20] <SA6BSS-Mike> yep, saw something about that yes
[08:21] <OZ1SKY_Brian> did you find out what was hidden on maps near you?
[08:21] <OZ1SKY_Brian> was it really the openair toilet :-)
[08:22] <SA6BSS-Mike> hehe, cool :) good find!!
[08:23] <SA6BSS-Mike> going to retrive a wx a few days ago, but need to return with a few meters extra stick
[08:23] <SA6BSS-Mike> https://imgur.com/a/mAtcqI6
[08:24] <OZ1SKY_Brian> oh yeah thats abit high up
[08:24] <SA6BSS-Mike> about 11m a figure
[08:24] <OZ1SKY_Brian> göteborg?
[08:24] <SA6BSS-Mike> yep, sonde was sent up from Landweter
[08:25] <OZ1SKY_Brian> RR see that everytime here
[08:25] <SA6BSS-Mike> that one was thnks to you , I wasnt tracking and just for fun opned sondehub
[08:26] <SA6BSS-Mike> and saw it went this way on its decent
[08:26] <SA6BSS-Mike> turned the yagi and fired up the radio and could easely rx it from here whn it hang
[08:26] <SA6BSS-Mike> in the tree 15min from here
[08:27] <OZ1SKY_Brian> nice, at the time they launch the rx here is not busy, so i should pick it up everytime
[08:27] <SA6BSS-Mike> I see you usulu the one tracking it to low alt
[08:28] <OZ1SKY_Brian> funny since the others in sweden should be closer
[08:29] <OZ1SKY_Brian> like sm5oci and sm6tlx
[08:29] <SA6BSS-Mike> yes, but if you loook at http://www.heywhatsthat.com/ you realy have an advanatge
[08:30] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03K6STS-15 after 0315 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=K6STS-15
[08:33] <OZ1SKY_Brian> looks like it, checked the database on radiosondy, last 3 launched i got last decode
[08:34] <OZ1SKY_Brian> sm5oci is also uploading
[08:34] <SA6BSS-Mike> ok
[08:35] <OZ1SKY_Brian> sm6tlx not in it though
[08:35] <OZ1SKY_Brian> https://radiosondy.info/sonde_table.php?startplace=G%C3%B6teborg+%28SE%29&table=startplace&ListDown=1
[08:36] <SA6BSS-Mike> thats kind of cool cahrt
[08:36] <SA6BSS-Mike> chart
[08:37] <OZ1SKY_Brian> https://radiosondy.info/maps/web_map.php?startplace=G%C3%B6teborg+%28SE%29&launch_site_map=1&ListDown=1
[08:37] <OZ1SKY_Brian> some went far
[08:37] <SA6BSS-Mike> indeed!
[08:43] <OZ1SKY_Brian> unlike here they dont go that far https://radiosondy.info/maps/web_map.php?startplace=Karup+%28DK%29&launch_site_map=1&ListDown=1
[08:44] <OZ1SKY_Brian> burst around 22-25km is normal
[08:44] <SA6BSS-Mike> yes, thats what I have seen as well
[08:45] <SA6BSS-Mike> how many sony have you collected?
[08:45] <SA6BSS-Mike> *sondes
[08:51] <OZ1SKY_Brian> 3 dfm here and 2 rs41 in germany. dont hunt much for the dfm since there is not much to do with them
[08:51] <SIbot> In real units: 41 in = 1 m
[08:51] <SA6BSS-Mike> ah, ok
[08:51] <SA6BSS-Mike> well, the chase is better then the catch :)
[08:52] <SA6BSS-Mike> are those sondes to change to the ublox fitted verion in the future?
[08:52] <OZ1SKY_Brian> hehe yeah, and i do hunt if they are close or i get by one, but lately they landed on private ground, so then i dont go
[08:53] <SA6BSS-Mike> rr
[08:53] <OZ1SKY_Brian> i dont know, graw made a new version the dfm17, but i dont know what chip they use
[08:53] <OZ1SKY_Brian> i havent seen any of those here
[08:53] <OZ1SKY_Brian> but i would think the dfm09 is terminated at some point
[08:54] <Darkside> hopefully the RS41 gets a refresh too
[08:54] <Darkside> im sure the gps chip they are using (the ublox 6 chipset) is obsolete by now
[08:54] <SA6BSS-Mike> the dfm17 for sure have a ublox max module https://sondehunt.de/language/en/archive/1189
[08:55] <Darkside> and a usb port!
[08:55] <SA6BSS-Mike> yeah the UBX-G6010-ST realy is old now
[08:56] <Darkside> looks like a stm32 on there too
[08:56] <Darkside> i wonder what the radio chip is..
[08:56] <SA6BSS-Mike> Ilooked that up a month ago , but have forgot what it was :)
[08:57] <OZ1SKY_Brian> this is the dfm09 chip https://www.telit.com/m2m-iot-products/positioning-timing-modules/positioning-gps-jupiter-n3/
[08:57] <SA6BSS-Mike> think its a Si tx
[08:57] <SA6BSS-Mike> similar to the rs41
[08:57] <SA6BSS-Mike> if not the exact same
[08:57] <Darkside> i wont be the same
[08:57] <Darkside> the Si4032 is also obsolete
[08:57] <Darkside> hopefully its a newer one (which has better PLL Resolution)
[08:59] <OZ1SKY_Brian> the first dfm i found is now downunder, at Darksides place, so he could add support for it in autorx
[09:01] <SA6BSS-Mike> https://www.graw.de/fileadmin/user_graw_upload/pdf/brochures/GRAW_Overview_V06.00_EN.pdf
[09:02] <OZ1SKY_Brian> hope to see them at some point here
[09:03] <Darkside> OZ1SKY_Brian: thanks for that :P
[09:03] <OZ1SKY_Brian> lol your welcome, i gained the most of that :-)
[09:04] <OZ1SKY_Brian> dfm09 is from 2010, so pretty old
[09:06] <OZ1SKY_Brian> so should be EOL when the dfm17 kicks off i would think
[09:06] <PE2BZ> I have a DFM-17 here, from German station Meppen. USB port is not recognized as serial port or device what so ever. Not in Windows at least.
[09:06] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ah ok
[09:06] <PE2BZ> It does power on the sonde :-)
[09:06] <SA6BSS-Mike> you have good photo of it?
[09:06] <Darkside> PE2BZ: can you get high res pics of the PCB?
[09:06] <Darkside> and look at what the radio chip is
[09:07] <PE2BZ> sure!
[09:07] <Darkside> thanks!!!
[09:10] <PE2BZ> https://imgur.com/mQc7Yio
[09:10] <SA6BSS-Mike> cool 4063 :)
[09:10] <Darkside> nice!
[09:10] <Darkside> we know how to work with that!
[09:10] <SA6BSS-Mike> that will do 119 to +900 iirc
[09:10] <Darkside> what about the AVR?
[09:10] <Darkside> SA6BSS-Mike: with appropriate matching of course
[09:10] <SA6BSS-Mike> ofc
[09:10] <Darkside> sucks that these aren going to be as common
[09:11] <Darkside> i really hope vaisala do a RS41 refresh
[09:13] <OZ1SKY_Brian> SI4063 is 142-1050 +20dbm
[09:13] <Darkside> very nice
[09:14] <Darkside> could reprogram it straight for APRS for thsoe around-the-world flights
[09:14] <Darkside> PE2BZ: what's the model of the main AVR?
[09:14] <OZ1SKY_Brian> yes 2m 70cm and 868 LORA all in one :-)
[09:14] <Darkside> uh
[09:14] <Darkside> lora?
[09:15] <OZ1SKY_Brian> yes the chip
[09:15] <Darkside> it doesnt do lora
[09:15] <PE2BZ> If you refresh the imgur url do you get ¨all images¨ now ?
[09:15] <OZ1SKY_Brian> no your right
[09:16] <Darkside> PE2BZ: nope?
[09:16] <SA6BSS-Mike> nop
[09:16] <PE2BZ> https://imgur.com/mQc7Yio
[09:16] <SA6BSS-Mike> no more pics
[09:16] <SA6BSS-Mike> just the SI showinf
[09:16] <SA6BSS-Mike> g
[09:16] <Darkside> you need to send al album link
[09:16] <Darkside> shoudl have a /a/ in it
[09:17] <PE2BZ> https://imgur.com/a/MYjUxhN
[09:17] <PE2BZ> Like this ?
[09:17] <Darkside> yep thats it
[09:17] <PE2BZ> With a bit of help I can manage ;-)
[09:17] <Darkside> boo
[09:17] <Darkside> still a stm32f100
[09:18] <Darkside> bigger package, but same flash/ram as the STM32 in the RS41
[09:18] <SIbot> In real units: 32 in = 0.8 m
[09:18] <SA6BSS-Mike> lol
[09:18] Action: Darkside slaps SIBot
[09:18] <OZ1SKY_Brian> have anyone made any alternativ firmware for the dfm09 i wonder?
[09:23] <PE2BZ> Added an ¨overview¨ image to the album
[09:24] <Darkside> excellent
[09:24] <Darkside> whats the bet that miniUSB port is actually just talking serial, not USB
[09:27] <PE2BZ> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ZlzwlDRLgeY0pLQxWkcd-DfYD3iAZEeb
[09:27] <PE2BZ> Does that link also work ?
[09:28] <PE2BZ> Darkside, it´s on my todo list, to wire it to the bus-pirate ;-)
[09:28] <PE2BZ> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1KoQEUbJbJVsUowfORhHKNFbeHsCnPsl8
[09:29] <Darkside> yes, link works
[09:31] <PE2BZ> That´s the 48MP from the Oppo Reno phone. Any close up reqeusts from the USB microscope ?
[09:31] <Darkside> nah thats ok
[09:31] <Darkside> maybe the back of the pcb?
[09:32] <Darkside> just an overview shot
[09:32] <Darkside> or is that covered by battery holders
[09:36] <PE2BZ> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1lNoKRNb2IxsaaOajzd7DlLeVZf1kDIg_
[09:36] <PE2BZ> Yes it is. Can be removed on request :-)
[09:36] <Darkside> nahh thats ok
[09:37] <Darkside> PE2BZ: so where/when did oyu get this one?
[09:37] <OZ1SKY_Brian> what type of batts?
[09:37] <PE2BZ> CR123a
[09:37] <PE2BZ> 2 pieces
[09:37] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ok still 3v like the 09
[09:38] <PE2BZ> This one flew from Meppen, Germany, landed in Groningen and was sent to me for ¨educational purposes¨
[09:38] <Darkside> well, if you happen upon another one, i'll gladly pay for shipping to australia :-)
[09:38] <Darkside> need to add one to my collection!
[09:38] <PE2BZ> Completely of topic https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_DjyjZo5bjlUmFFQmFRc0V5TEVSWGtYc2txWUhjZnJLM0k4
[09:38] <Darkside> im missing a few of the currently flying sondes :-)
[09:39] <Darkside> PE2BZ: antenna of some kind?
[09:39] <PE2BZ> GPS antenna made bij PE1MJA he also made them for 868 and 434 MHz
[09:45] <SA6BSS-Mike> so whats the purpose, to flimsy to have at home and to heavy to have on a floater, could be good on an up/down flight?
[09:46] <PE2BZ> Well, they appear to quite sturdy. The 434 MHz version was about 3 gram . glasfiber on copper and flew on a LoRa tracker, compared to my GP from 1.5 square mm installation wire it was a great success :-)
[09:48] <PE2BZ> https://photos.app.goo.gl/kfHfUj8xYNnDGNjVA
[09:48] <PE2BZ> The TTN tracker with GPS and 868 MHz antenna
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[09:51] <Darkside> hmm need to try that at some point around here
[09:53] <SA6BSS-Mike> Medad and company have a ttn switching freq on geolocation going
[09:53] <SA6BSS-Mike> hat could be cool
[09:53] <SA6BSS-Mike> if it works
[09:55] <Darkside> ahh, so it will switch to 915 where appropriate
[09:56] <SA6BSS-Mike> yes, iirc, lets see if I find the links
[09:57] <SA6BSS-Mike> I think its this https://www.union.ic.ac.uk/guilds/icseds/2020/03/launch-of-icspace19/
[09:59] <SA6BSS-Mike> good map https://www.union.ic.ac.uk/guilds/icseds/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/image-1.png
[10:01] <OZ1SKY_Brian> europe 863-870, here its just 868-870 ?
[10:04] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ok looks like CEPT is 863-870
[10:08] <OZ1SKY_Brian> CEPT ERC/REC 70-03
[10:37] Action: PE2BZ starts complaining about the weather conditions. 4 degrees, wind from the Northeast. Had to mount a 3 el yagi but soooo colddddd
[10:41] <OZ1SKY_Brian> yep better stay in
[10:48] <PE2BZ> to late ;-)
[10:48] <PE2BZ> But back in now....
[10:49] <OZ1SKY_Brian> yagi for what?
[10:49] <PE2BZ> Satnogs experiment, 70 cm
[10:49] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ah
[10:50] <PE2BZ> 2 elements actually, removed the director.
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[12:36] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KM4EFW-12 after 0313 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KM4EFW-12
[12:48] <OZ1SKY_Brian> OZ3RF one of the trackers here looked abit into the DFM09
[12:48] <OZ1SKY_Brian> https://github.com/nickoe/dfm09_hacking
[13:05] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 0319GSN0013_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=19GSN0013_chase
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[13:47] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03EDUPIC_Alt1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=EDUPIC_Alt1
[13:51] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DK0LG - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DK0LG
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[13:55] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03U4B-2 after 0313 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=U4B-2
[14:34] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 0319GSN006 GALAXY S10 ROBERT_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=19GSN006%20GALAXY%20S10%20ROBERT_chase
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[15:28] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03LAST_HE - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=LAST_HE
[16:04] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PS-74 after 0319 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PS-74
[16:13] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HSAB_TEST after 0314 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HSAB_TEST
[16:47] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03TangoSiera13_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=TangoSiera13_chase
[16:58] Nick change: Viproz__ -> Viproz
[17:01] <Viproz> Hey everyone, I trying to understand rules for designing an LNA using a MMIC, I'm looking at the evaluation board of the SPF5189Z but I don't understand their choice of component values for the 900 MHz test (here: https://www.qorvo.com/products/d/da001910, page 8)
[17:02] <Viproz> Can someone explain to me why they use something that looks like to be tuned for 400 MHz for their 900 MHz circuit ?
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[17:14] <SA6BSS-Mike> working link https://www.qorvo.com/products/d/da001910
[17:16] <SA6BSS-Mike> from my experience the values is not super critical
[17:17] <SA6BSS-Mike> those values will most likley works well over the full uhf span
[17:23] <Viproz> Okay thanks, is there a rule as to when we can get away with just a DC blocking capacitor and when we need to use an inductor too?
[17:26] <SA6BSS-Mike> no idea, just uses dc blocking caps in all my lna: s , but I uses it only for 400-440Mhz
[17:27] <SA6BSS-Mike> not only but mainly
[18:00] <Viproz> Did you share some designs on your website?
[18:01] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BB06 after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BB06
[18:23] <SA6BSS-Mike> Viproz: here is the files, http://www.filedropper.com/design_1
[18:24] <SA6BSS-Mike> it was my very fisrt experince with eagle pcb 5years ago and have not looked at it since, so dont expect to much :)
[18:26] <SA6BSS-Mike> if you find any of the pcb: s usefull let me know and I fix it, Im got quite alot better on cading in eagle now :)
[18:28] <SA6BSS-Mike> lol, man , its not looking good, but if anyone looks usefull, let me know, it should only be a 15min job fixing it
[18:37] <Viproz> Okay thanks, I'll have a look, I have about 2-3 days of experience with Eagle and I just spent all of yesterday leaning about RF PCB design so I'm at about the same stage as you were 5 years ago :D
[18:37] <SA6BSS-Mike> :)
[18:44] <SA6BSS-Mike> Viproz: I have a couple of pcb s left if you want to experiment, pm me your adress and I send them to you https://imgur.com/a/BHCb8LK
[18:44] <Viproz> You had to use a voltage regulator to regulate the bias-tee voltage you receive?
[18:44] <SA6BSS-Mike> guess one of the radios I used sent up 12v through the coax
[18:45] <SA6BSS-Mike> better not use voltage regualtors, the could introduse noise
[18:46] <SA6BSS-Mike> today I should use some sort of low noise LDO insted
[18:46] <Viproz> thanks but I build a PCB printer with a laser printer (https://www.instructables.com/id/Modification-of-the-Lexmark-E260-Laser-Printer-for/) so I kinda want tu use it :p
[18:46] <SA6BSS-Mike> ah, cool!!
[18:47] <Viproz> I was planning on just feeding it the bias tee (5V) with some filtering caps to remove high frequencies
[18:47] <SA6BSS-Mike> thats the best approach
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[19:52] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03U4B-1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=U4B-1
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[23:30] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SQ9GOL-6 after 0315 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SQ9GOL-6
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