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[00:53] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 0319GSN006PHONE_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=19GSN006PHONE_chase
[01:06] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03112GDDcab3110_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=112GDDcab3110_chase
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[03:06] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KI5GVH-11 after 037 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KI5GVH-11
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[05:43] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PS-74 after 034 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PS-74
[06:10] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP9UOB after 035 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP9UOB
[06:13] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP9UOB-P37 after 035 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP9UOB-P37
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[07:29] <bertrik> hoping to see ispace19 again
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[08:19] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IT9YBG-11 after 034 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IT9YBG-11
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[09:45] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PS-75 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PS-75
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[10:14] <MedadR> icspace19 is definately flying but it is trying to complete a join request but not succeeding. I can see on the console that it is trying to join.
[10:15] <bertrik> oh, so probably the network is receiving the request, but the payload is not receiving the ack
[10:16] <MedadR> I think the TTN coverage in the region it is flying is not very good. a LoRaWAN join request requires both an uplink and downlink. The tracker is successfully sending down the request but I dont think it is receiving the ack
[10:16] <MedadR> bertrik: yes I can see the request on the console
[10:16] <bertrik> so, can you also see the eui of the gateway that receives it?
[10:19] <MedadR> slight problem. Something went wrong with our TTN console so we are not able to see any data on the console. It was after adding in an integration(even after removing it). All we know its the tracker is showing activity
[10:21] <MedadR> We have a remote instance running ttnhabbridge and that is working but any attempt run a new instance of the bridge is failing
[10:21] <MedadR> http://www.union.ic.ac.uk/guilds/icseds/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/console-2.png This is how we know it is alive
[10:23] <bertrik> the frames up counter being 0 suggests that indeed it's trying to JOIN again
[10:23] <MedadR> yes indeed
[10:23] <bertrik> you'll see the device address change with each JOIN
[10:24] <MedadR> hmm. did not notice that
[10:24] <bertrik> to get at the data you need to connect to a regional TTN server, maybe that's no longer the eu server right now?
[10:24] <bertrik> (maybe that just complicates things more, and better not worry about that now)
[10:25] <MedadR> I would expect it to be in the EU severs still. It is probably over Turkey
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[10:26] <MedadR> and when we tried, the servers did not seem to matter. We tried switching servers(to us.west) but the data came through anyway. I can't remember where we changed the servers though.
[10:28] <MedadR> Next time we will try storing the LoRa join parameters in EEPROM so that it does not need to join everyday. It will only need to join again when it enters another LoRa region(e.g. goes from LORAMAC_REGION_EU868 to LORAMAC_REGION_AS923)
[10:28] <bertrik> yes, I think that's a good idea
[10:29] <bertrik> probably also disable ADR and fix the spreading factor
[10:29] <MedadR> ADR is already disabled and Spreading factor is fixed to SF8
[10:30] <bertrik> good :)
[10:31] <MedadR> The tracker again sent a join request one minute ago.
[10:33] <MedadR> bertrik: Do you know the relative performance of the spreading factors for HAB? Does the range suffer significantly for the higher datarates? The record distances have used SF10: https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/article/lorawan-distance-world-record
[10:33] <bertrik> Can you add me as a 'collaborator' on the TTN project? my name on TTN is simply 'bertrik' (without the quotes), maybe I can help, I won't change anything, just have a look
[10:34] <MedadR> great idea will do so
[10:34] <bertrik> each step in SF takes twice as long to transmit and gives you 3 dB of extra S/N margin (if I recall correctly)
[10:35] <MedadR> bertrik: I have added you as collaborator.
[10:38] <MedadR> bertrik: We are flying the device icspace19. You will notice that nothing shows up on the data console for that device. and if you input the credentials for this application in your bridge properties file and run, it will crash
[10:39] <bertrik> oh ok, I can look into that too
[10:40] <MedadR> Client is not connected (32104)
[10:40] <MedadR> at org.eclipse.paho.client.mqttv3.internal.ExceptionHelper.createMqttException(ExceptionHelper.java:31)
[10:40] <MedadR> at org.eclipse.paho.client.mqttv3.internal.ClientComms.sendNoWait(ClientComms.java:203)
[10:40] <MedadR> .....
[10:41] <bertrik> I've had some problem with the java mqtt client, it won't always recover correctly when the connection to the MQTT has a hiccup
[10:42] <MedadR> But makeing whole new application, making new devices and transimitting with the new credentials seems to work. MQTT connection works and data appears on the console fine
[10:44] <bertrik> so perhaps a problem with the credentials logging into the MQTT server
[10:46] <MedadR> Also, we noticed during testing that the MQTT connection times out when no data comes through for around 4 hours. I think setting line 63: options.setAutomaticReconnect(true); in TtnListener.java will allow it to restart the connection automatically. I have not tested that yet though
[10:47] <bertrik> yes, that is one of the option that should have a positive effect on it, however it didn't seem to work for me when I tested it
[10:48] <bertrik> the problem seems that some internal thread in the mqtt library dies, but the user of the library doesn't really get a notice and the automatic recovery doesn't quite work
[10:49] <MedadR> I am pretty sure the credentials are correct. Maybe, I have a slight suspicion, we may be running to many instances of the bridge that the TTN server is rejecting new connections. We have a bash script starting a new instance of TTNhabhubbridge every 3 hours to prevent the MQTT connection from timing out. Maybe we are not terminating the old connection everytime we start a new one.
[10:49] <MedadR> *to -> too
[10:51] <MedadR> but I know at least one instance of the bridge is running, because data is being forwarded to Habhub
[11:06] <MedadR> The tracker will attempt a join request every 2 minutes.
[11:09] <bertrik> I haven't seen any data arrive unfortunately
[11:11] <MedadR> Nor have I seen any data. But in the Device overview, you will be able to see that status updates every 2 minutes
[11:12] <bertrik> right!
[11:12] <bertrik> I see last message arrived about 1.5 minutes ago, but I didn't see anything on the mqtt stream
[11:13] <bertrik> weird
[11:14] <bertrik> nothing on the TTN console ...
[11:16] <MedadR> highly mysterious
[11:28] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 0319GSN0013_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=19GSN0013_chase
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[11:48] <bertrik> I see the device address has changed, so the network has received a JOIN request and handed out a new address, but nothing on the MQTT data topics ...
[11:50] <bertrik> and again ...
[11:50] <bertrik> I just hope the device receives the JOIN ACK and starts transmitting coordinates again :|
[11:51] <bertrik> could also be it's in a kind of low battery hiccup mode
[11:51] <bertrik> where it resets during a transmit, or something like that
[11:52] <MedadR> not likely a low battery issue. I have replicated the same problem while powered by a stable power supply here with me.
[11:52] <MedadR> The issue only popped up on launch day. annoying.
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[12:05] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03GSNBALON_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=GSNBALON_chase
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[12:12] <michal_f> did anyone try to connect uBLOX device to uBlox center through those cheap i2c USB adapters ?
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[12:34] <bertrik> yup, TTN seems to be broken right now :(
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[12:43] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 0319GSN005_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=19GSN005_chase
[12:46] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 0319GSN006 GALAXY S10 ROBERT_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=19GSN006%20GALAXY%20S10%20ROBERT_chase
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[12:52] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 0319GSN002_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=19GSN002_chase
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[13:12] <michal_f> can I run ublox center under linux ? wine perhaps ?
[13:15] <craag> Yes you can.
[13:17] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 0319GSN006 ROBERT PORTO_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=19GSN006%20ROBERT%20PORTO_chase
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[13:55] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03CALLSIGN123_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CALLSIGN123_chase
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[13:58] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 0319GSN006PHONE_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=19GSN006PHONE_chase
[14:48] <michal_f> thanks. I now run u-center with ubuntu
[14:52] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03F4GOH-10 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=F4GOH-10
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[15:32] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 0319069GSN_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=19069GSN_chase
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[16:20] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KK6SDN-12 after 0317 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KK6SDN-12
[16:34] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Regantest3_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Regantest3_chase
[16:35] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Regantest2_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Regantest2_chase
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[16:50] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03K6STS-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=K6STS-11
[17:12] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 0319GSN005_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=19GSN005_chase
[17:13] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 0319GSN0013 Sittard_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=19GSN0013%20Sittard_chase
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[17:17] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03De pa21890_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=De%20pa21890_chase
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[17:24] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 0319GSN0013_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=19GSN0013_chase
[17:31] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PA2RDG_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PA2RDG_chase
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[17:34] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PD3KCC_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PD3KCC_chase
[17:37] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03ATT666 Stefan_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ATT666%20Stefan_chase
[17:39] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PD2IGC_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PD2IGC_chase
[17:42] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KAREL Mobiele_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KAREL%20Mobiele_chase
[17:43] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03NL3610_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=NL3610_chase
[17:45] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03NL8032_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=NL8032_chase
[17:47] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03MARK??_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=MARK%3F%3F_chase
[17:48] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DP3QWR_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DP3QWR_chase
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[18:35] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Shhshs_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Shhshs_chase
[18:39] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Regantest1_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Regantest1_chase
[18:40] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Regantes4_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Regantes4_chase
[18:42] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Regantes2_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Regantes2_chase
[18:43] <bertrik> that's a lot of chase vehicles
[18:44] <PE2BZ> All on safe distance... What are they chasing ?
[18:45] <SA6BSS-Mike> I have had some mail corpsondence with him
[18:46] <SA6BSS-Mike> he have built acouple of wspr floaters but last I heard he planned for an up/down flight first
[18:47] <bertrik> today was supposed to be the yearly radio market day I think
[18:48] <bertrik> which was cancelled
[18:48] <bertrik> so maybe some people made it into a different kind of event
[18:48] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PEPER-2 after 0319 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PEPER-2
[18:50] <bertrik> wow, the chase cars are all over the map, rotterdam, gouda, den haag, amsterdam, almelo, near arnhem
[18:50] <bertrik> Maxell: do you know what's going on?
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[19:23] <Maxell> bertrik: nope, I don't know these guys
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[20:14] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03CAR6_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CAR6_chase
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[20:21] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 0319GSN005._chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=19GSN005._chase
[20:21] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03GSN005_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=GSN005_chase
[20:23] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03.19GSN005_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=.19GSN005_chase
[20:24] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03.19GSN005._chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=.19GSN005._chase
[20:26] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 0319GSN005-_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=19GSN005-_chase
[20:30] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 0319GSN005.._chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=19GSN005.._chase
[20:31] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03..19GSN005._chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=..19GSN005._chase
[20:33] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03..19GSN005.._chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=..19GSN005.._chase
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[20:36] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03-19GSN005_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=-19GSN005_chase
[20:37] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03-19GSN005-_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=-19GSN005-_chase
[20:38] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03-.19GSN005-_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=-.19GSN005-_chase
[20:44] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03politie 112310_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=politie%20112310_chase
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[22:15] <NLETQI> Hi, anyone got any advice getting CUSF predictor up and running with chasemapper? getting the error "Loading predictor failed: Not a valid CUSF predictor binary."
[22:16] <NLETQI> Have followed the steps here - https://github.com/darksidelemm/cusf_predictor_wrapper/ (twice)
[22:18] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Regantes1_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Regantes1_chase
[22:28] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Final_test_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Final_test_chase
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[22:50] <Darkside> NLETQI: still around?
[23:05] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03CHOTEN - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CHOTEN
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[23:16] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KM4EFW-12 after 037 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KM4EFW-12
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[23:25] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 0319069GSN_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=19069GSN_chase
[23:32] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Gateway_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Gateway_chase
[23:32] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03GSNGateway_Ede_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=GSNGateway_Ede_chase
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[23:39] <bertrik> I wonder what's going on
[23:40] <NLETQI> Darkside - Yep
[23:41] <Darkside> NLETQI: hey
[23:41] <Darkside> sorry
[23:41] <Darkside> have you tried running the pred binary?
[23:42] <Darkside> because if its giving that error, it cant run the binary
[23:42] <NLETQI> Yeah, when I run make it reports - [100%] Built target pred
[23:42] <Darkside> can you run the pred binary?
[23:42] <Darkside> i.e. ./pred
[23:44] <Darkside> and did you copy the pred binary to teh right place?
[23:45] <NLETQI> -bash: ./pred: Permission denied
[23:45] <Darkside> hrm
[23:45] <Darkside> run: ls -hla pred
[23:46] <Darkside> lets see what the permissions are on it
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[23:49] <NLETQI> Darkside - sorry, 2yr old hit the reset button on the PC
[23:50] <NLETQI> Have copied pred to /home/pi/cusf_predictor_wrapper/apps and /home/pi/chasemapper can't get it run in either location.
[23:51] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Regantest2_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Regantest2_chase
[23:53] <NLETQI> my gut feel is it's not compiling properly. Is there a way to validate if its complied?
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[23:57] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 0319GSN069_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=19GSN069_chase
[23:58] <NLETQI> When I run python predict.py --latitude=-34.9499 --longitude=138.5194 -a 5 -d 7.5 -b 26000 --time "2018-01-27 11:15Z" --altitude_deltas="-2000,0,2000"
[23:58] <SIbot5> In real units: 0,2000 in = 51 m
[23:58] <NLETQI> No handlers could be found for logger "fastkml.config"
[23:58] <NLETQI> datetime.datetime.utcnow().isoformat() # This can be anything that dateutil can parse. The time *must* be in UTC.
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