highaltitude.log.20190910

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[04:27] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SQ5PGC-12 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SQ5PGC-12
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[06:18] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VK5ST-9_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VK5ST-9_chase
[06:21] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03AK0SK-11 after 0314 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=AK0SK-11
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[08:00] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03P10000-12 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=P10000-12
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[09:27] <nmcc> I have an LNA & SAW to try out, my Watson W-50 has an N type connector and these have SMA - where on the cable are they best placed and rather than daisy chaining lots of short pig tails, should I take off the SMA connectors and use some quality coax to solder them in-line
[09:30] <nmcc> Supplementary question, is the Westflex cable worth 50% more?
[09:30] <dbrooke> ideally LNA up the mast near the antenna, in which case the coax down the mast to the receiver is less critical
[09:31] <nmcc> And then the SAW just before the receiver?
[09:31] <nmcc> Soldered or use the existing connectors?
[09:32] <dbrooke> ah, I was assuming you meant a combined LNA/SAW like the habamp
[09:33] <dbrooke> if you don't have out of band strong signals you can put the SAW between LNA and receiver, wherever convenient
[09:34] <nmcc> Cool
[09:34] <dbrooke> I'd probably keep the existing connectors, I made up a mast head box ... 1 sec
[09:36] <dbrooke> https://stuff.dbrooke.me.uk/sp-JnpWxa.JPG
[09:36] <dbrooke> antennas come in to habamps on SMA connectots, then N connectors for coax down mast
[09:39] <dbrooke> https://stuff.dbrooke.me.uk/sp-q0Amac.JPG
[09:40] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DK0TU-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DK0TU-11
[09:50] <nmcc> Woah, mast head box shiny envy ...
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[09:51] <nmcc> Whilst I have a LoRaWAN gateway here with a proper antenna, I've not gone as far as a pre-amp for that
[09:54] <nmcc> But I'll have to factor it in to my plans - I've the Watson W-50 but I've also a many elemented Diamond Yagi as I'm so far north that the Watson can't really pickup launches down south until they are really high. Whereas for Dave's Apollo launch I picked it up quite early when I pointed the yagi in the vague direction of Ross on Wye
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[10:17] <PB0AHX-Herman> dbrooke, GM where do you buy those empty cupboards
[10:38] <fsphil> that's really well done
[10:38] <dbrooke> I got it from http://www.xeropage.co.uk/g3nyk/componen.htm and it's also available now from https://store.uputronics.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=63&product_id=101
[10:39] <dbrooke> manufacturer is http://schubert-gehaeuse.de/aussengehaeuse.html
[10:39] <dbrooke> PB0AHX-Herman: ^^
[10:40] <dbrooke> I just need to work out why I don't seem to be getting bias-t power to the amps ...
[10:41] <bertrik> something is shorting it? a capacitor somewhere inline?
[10:42] <bertrik> bias-t the wrong way around?
[10:42] <dbrooke> not sure, I've just brought the receiver box down from the loft to measure some things so hopefully can figure it out without having to bring the mast down
[10:43] <fsphil> do you put anything around the connectors to keep water away from them?
[10:44] <dbrooke> self amalgamating tape
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[10:46] <dbrooke> you can almost see it if you zoom in https://stuff.dbrooke.me.uk/sp-evkpkn.jpg
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[10:53] <vaizki> and you remembered that most self-amalgamating tape needs another tape on top for uv protection? :)
[10:56] <dbrooke> I didn't do it though I do know I should 8-) In practice I've never had anything installed long enough for it to be a problem.
[10:57] <vaizki> and tbh I'm not sure if "most" is an accurate statement but the one I use (Nitto 15) needs something like electricatl tape on top
[10:59] <dbrooke> I'm not sure what make I currently have but I do remember reading the recommendation for tape on top somewhere in the distant past
[11:00] <PB0AHX-Herman> dbrooke, tnx i look for long time this box mni tnx
[11:03] <dbrooke> no problem, hopefully you may find a local supplier
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[11:03] <nmcc> Great picture showing how perspective works - had to look twice as it appeared you had the shortest aerials in the world!
[11:04] <fsphil> the sun shouldn't get at it too much
[11:07] <dbrooke> the connectors are somewhat recessed
[11:08] <dbrooke> nmcc: they're quarter wave monopoles to try to get higher angle reception working better than my high gain colinear
[11:09] <nmcc> I so have to get out my old RSGB books (old as in, when I was 11, as in 40 years back) and learn the radio side of all of this - something for Winter me thinks.
[11:09] <dbrooke> so the elements are all the same length
[11:11] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Hbal0325_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Hbal0325_chase
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[11:46] <PE2BZ> SA6BSS-Mike, your flight is delayed ;-)
[11:46] <SA6BSS-Mike> looks like it have landed
[11:47] <SA6BSS-Mike> it shoud have started at 10 or soon after
[11:47] <SA6BSS-Mike> so either landed or loocked up during start,
[11:48] <SA6BSS-Mike> we will see tomorrow if it comes back over Poland but I think its in the N.sea
[11:49] <PE2BZ> I might just have noticed the first 2 lines with 450 shift in the waterfall of fldigi over here. So don´t disappoint me ;-)
[11:49] <PE2BZ> It[ alive !
[11:50] <PE2BZ> https://imgur.com/Kv3Dtjv
[11:50] <SA6BSS-Mike> you are kidding me, ok, so its no telemtry , just some short text like sa6bss bctrack 10.1?
[11:50] <PE2BZ> So, if it landed, it´s close to me :-)
[11:50] <PE2BZ> Signal is to weak to decode atm
[11:51] <PE2BZ> 2 strings, 2 minute break ?
[11:51] <SA6BSS-Mike> yes corrrect
[11:54] <SA6BSS-Mike> can you pinpoint it with your yagi?
[11:55] <SA6BSS-Mike> is it stil far up north ower N. sea?
[11:55] <PE2BZ> My yagi is bandpass filtered @ 403 MHz atm.... New sonde type
[11:55] <SA6BSS-Mike> ok
[11:55] <SA6BSS-Mike> it should run until about 18 , so anther 4 hor or so
[11:56] <PE2BZ> But I did call PA3DJR he lives in the northern part (Groningen) and he is starting his receiver now
[11:56] <PE2BZ> So the magical line ¨a new position has been received¨ should happen any time now.
[11:57] <SA6BSS-Mike> :)
[11:58] <SA6BSS-Mike> I have to go back to work, l8ter!!
[12:00] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SA6BSS/AM after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SA6BSS%2FAM
[12:00] <PE2BZ> Told you :-)
[12:01] <SA6BSS-Mike> :)
[12:02] <PE2BZ> Stable signal, solid S8 in Groningen....
[12:02] <SIbot1> In real units: 8 in = 20.32 cm
[12:31] <DL7AD> :D
[12:45] <fsphil> haha
[12:49] <PB0AHX-Herman> $$$$SA6BSS.AM,16,12:48:56,5357.546,00535.546,10833.8,-2.7*50
[12:49] <PB0AHX-Herman> red red red
[12:58] <PB0AHX-Herman> green
[13:37] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SA6BSS-8 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SA6BSS-8
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[14:06] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03K1AMO - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=K1AMO
[14:37] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03W8MV-11 after 0313 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W8MV-11
[14:39] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03K1amo_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=K1amo_chase
[14:41] <PE2BZ> SA6BSS-Mike, can you send a nurse to your tracker ? Every now and then it sounds a bit ill ;-)
[14:47] <happysat> rodger https://i.pinimg.com/originals/5b/9b/15/5b9b154fd8bcfaba3003a53cbe6ef096.jpg
[14:47] <daveake> lol
[14:47] <daveake> You googled the same phrase I did :D
[14:47] <happysat> hehe ;) balloon nurse
[14:47] <daveake> snap
[14:48] <happysat> everything exists on google..
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[15:15] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03NM1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=NM1
[15:23] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03NM3 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=NM3
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[15:33] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DL4MDW-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DL4MDW-11
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[15:49] <PE2BZ> happysat, nice catch :-) Fill her with HE ;-)
[15:51] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD2RZT-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD2RZT-11
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[16:54] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03OK7DMT-1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=OK7DMT-1
[17:26] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03NM4 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=NM4
[17:49] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03NM2 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=NM2
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[18:42] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03LU1ESY-13 after 0318 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=LU1ESY-13
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[21:41] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03ICT3 after 0317 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ICT3
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