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[05:27] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HG8LXL after 039 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HG8LXL
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[09:23] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03W8MV-11 after 033 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W8MV-11
[09:26] <PE2BZ> ping Darkside do wenet transmitters appear on habhub tracker during flight and is any type of payload doc necessary ?
[09:27] <Darkside> no and no
[09:27] <Darkside> fly a separate tracker for positioning
[09:28] <Darkside> if yuo can match the callsigns you will get the little SSDV icon on the payload list on the tracker
[09:29] <Darkside> though that can be difficult given the callsign length limitations
[09:41] <PE2BZ> Thanks for the info Mark. Might fly this saturday, which is the day with about no clouds between 11 AM and 05 PM
[09:42] <PE2BZ> Might not add a separate tracker ....Let me think about weight, balloons and HE amount.
[09:43] <Darkside> i mean, if you add a GPS it will send down GPS positions... but i'm no currently sending that to habitat
[09:44] <PE2BZ> The GPS is included and part of the image :-)
[09:44] <Darkside> yes
[09:44] <Darkside> but it wont show up on the map
[09:44] <PE2BZ> Now trying to remember what payload I flew on the 9th of november 2018 ... I should document the burst altituded of the different size latex balloons.
[09:45] <PE2BZ> So I need one receiver near the expected endpoint ;-)
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[10:25] <nmcc> PE2BZ, take screen shots of balloon, parachute & final prediction at the launch site once you've made final decisions - if only so you can prove due diligence in court :-(
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[10:47] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SITS-0 after 037 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SITS-0
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[11:32] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DELTA-4 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DELTA-4
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[12:43] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RKII - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RKII
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[13:02] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DK0AJ-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DK0AJ-11
[13:08] <PE2BZ> Good day. Tomorrow I think I am going to fly the first Dutch Wenet payload, a bit following the coast line of the Netherland, aiming at max 10 km altitude. No position on the map, only GPS data in the images at ssdv.habhub.org Wenet RX setup under Ubuntu with rtl dongle https://github.com/projecthorus/wenet/wiki/Wenet-RX-Instructions-(Ubuntu-Debian)
[13:09] <Darkside> yay
[13:09] <PE2BZ> Will be transmitting 50 mW on 432.700 MHz
[13:09] <Darkside> got many receivers?
[13:09] <PE2BZ> 4 so far, the fifth is installing software at this moment.
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[13:11] <bertrik> would I be able to hear it with a baofeng in Gouda?
[13:12] <bertrik> i have the uv-b5 it's an FM receiver for 2m and 70cm
[13:12] <Darkside> no
[13:12] <Darkside> its far too wide for that
[13:14] <bertrik> what kind of modulation is it?
[13:14] <Darkside> 115kbps FSK
[13:18] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD5GOM-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD5GOM-11
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[13:23] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KA6TVU-12 after 0315 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KA6TVU-12
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[14:21] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KF4ZTI-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KF4ZTI-11
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[15:10] <MedadR> SA6BSS-Mike|2: how do you pre stretch the aliexpress pico balloons?
[15:17] Action: PE2BZ imagines Mike constantly blowing into a pico balloon
[15:18] <MedadR> PE2BZ how do you prestretch your balloons?
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[15:22] <PE2BZ> Find the maximum diameter. (say 90 cm) fill the balloon up to max minus 10 cm, close it, leave it unattended, when needed undo it from air, fill with HE. All with airbed pump, so no pressure metering over here.
[15:23] <PE2BZ> Yesterday I wanted to measure diameter after 2 days to check the closing clip, but the balloon intentionally hit the 1/4 wave 70 cm antenna from a hanging payload. Diameter reduces very quickly....
[15:25] <PE2BZ> And I found out that relying on fill diameter does not (always) work. Bobo balloons from local store only weigh 21 gram and the chinese ones 29 gram. So I flew one of the local ones but with the calculation for 30 gram balloon. That explained the double ascent rate on a 15 gram payload.
[15:26] <PE2BZ> And with the closing clips from Ikea it looks like I can easily close the balloon, check for the lift and re-open to add a bit extra.
[15:40] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KJ6PBS-3 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KJ6PBS-3
[15:47] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03S52O-9_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=S52O-9_chase
[15:53] <MedadR> PE2BZ: When you say fill to max 90cm, so you mean fill to 80cm diameter with airbed pump?
[16:01] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03S52O_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=S52O_chase
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[17:02] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KF7OTD-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KF7OTD-11
[17:04] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> MedadR: good evenig!
[17:05] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> IK use a pressure sensor and an aqurium air pump with a T connector
[17:05] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> but first I pump it up with a airmadrass air pump, then I connecy the small aquarium pump
[17:06] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> slowly pump it up to 0,750 psi or somaby 0,700 is enough, this over about 5 hours or so
[17:07] <MedadR> Nice! I can do that as well. Thanks for the information!
[17:07] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> chears!
[17:09] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> MedadR: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32848185028.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.5e22484cjoFB59&algo_pvid=1db5139c-2a72-471b-b0d1-7a154d0cea35&algo_expid=1db5139c-2a72-471b-b0d1-7a154d0cea35-9&btsid=df6298f6-194a-405b-8cb5-c70018c48188&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_10,searchweb201603_52
[17:09] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> thats what Im using
[17:10] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> also let it sit for a couple of hours with that pressure, it will slowly leak but its ok
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[17:29] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03ICT3 after 0316 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ICT3
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[17:56] <PE2BZ> MedadR, yes indeed that´s the way I do it till now. This afternoon the Ikea bag clips arrived, works nice on both foil and latex balloons to close after filling, test neck lift, re-attach filling hose, remove clip, add HE, attach clip and test again.
[17:57] <MedadR> Thank you SA6BSS and PE2BZ for the info. Will try
[18:01] <SA6BSS-Mike|2> yeah, those ikea bagclips are great to seal the hose or aqurium tubing with
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[18:31] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Chase_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Chase_chase
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[20:16] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RKII after 037 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RKII
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[21:26] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03V4 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=V4
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