highaltitude.log.20190704

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[03:40] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Phoenix1_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Phoenix1_chase
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[04:09] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03Phoenix1 after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Phoenix1
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[04:14] <Petejhsa> Phoenix 1 is in the air
[04:15] <PE2BZ> Good morning
[04:16] <PE2BZ> Petejhsa, frequency as in the doc? 434.505 ?
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[04:33] <PE2BZ> PHoenix1 at 434.507.3 on the IC991a over here
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[04:42] <PE2BZ> Petejhsa, Good morning, what´s the expected burst altitude ?
[04:45] <Petejhsa> 32000m
[04:46] <Petejhsa> Thanks for the help tracking
[04:46] <PE2BZ> thanks, I will wake up some more :-)
[04:46] <PE2BZ> yw!
[04:46] <PE2BZ> Nice signal, what type of tracker ?
[04:53] <Petejhsa> Great. It's a Habduino
[04:56] <Petejhsa> Seem to have lost the GPS lock at the minute. No co-ordinates coming through
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[05:08] <PE2BZ> 6 satellites, so might be a GPS not in flight mode? Might update as soon as it´s getting below 18 km again
[05:12] <PE2BZ> That appears not to be the problem :-) updating again
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[06:47] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03STELLA21 after 039 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=STELLA21
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[07:00] <daveake> PE0SAT: HABDuino definitely sets flight mode!
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[08:34] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03CALLME - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CALLME
[08:35] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03GSM - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=GSM
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[09:17] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03HERO4 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HERO4
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[09:21] <Petejhsa> Hi. We have located our payload however it is stuck in a tree about 20m off the ground. How do people normally recover payloads from tall trees??
[09:24] <Darkside> 20m is a bit of a problem, 12m is about my limit..
[09:24] <Darkside> might require an arborist
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[09:32] <daveake> I once gaffa taped 2 telescopic poles together, for I reckon 17m. Unstable as hell but we did eventually get the payload.
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[09:54] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03HERO - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HERO
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[10:12] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BZPITS - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BZPITS
[10:18] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03IU5IKB-1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IU5IKB-1
[10:27] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03U3B-25 after 0313 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=U3B-25
[10:30] <fsphil> gopro image quality is looking good
[10:31] <PE2BZ> daveake surely has a very long longwire ;-)
[10:33] <Darkside> is only you guys could use wenet..
[10:35] <PE2BZ> Hero4 is released
[10:35] <daveake> it is
[10:36] <PE2BZ> No secrets for us ;-)
[10:38] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03U3B-27 after 0313 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=U3B-27
[10:40] <PE2BZ> very nice images indeed !
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[10:42] <fsphil> right I have to launch wenet this year
[10:44] <Darkside> yes
[10:44] <PE1ANS> (y) Dave
[10:47] <daveake> fsphil You do :)
[10:48] <daveake> Bit misty today could have done with some gamma applied
[10:48] <daveake> Sorry for latish launch ... broken GPS antenna, and a discharged GoPro
[10:48] <fsphil> better weather than here, it's all cloud atm
[10:55] <Darkside> isn't that normal?
[11:05] <Ron_G8FJG> daveake I can see lora on 434.450 but no trace HERO4 on 434.375
[11:06] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SANTAFE_Chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SANTAFE_Chase
[11:13] <fsphil> heh, yeah the default sky is solid #888
[11:14] <PE2BZ> !payload HERO4
[11:14] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Payload 03HERO4 10(23cb) 03$$HERO4 - no transmissions
[11:15] <PE2BZ> Ron_G8FJG, welcome back ;-) the payload doc says 434.275, UKHAS says 434.375 do you decode on 434.450 ?
[11:18] <Ron_G8FJG> hi Bem too much qrm on 450..but I can see that sig...I'll look on 275
[11:18] <Ron_G8FJG> Ben
[11:19] <Ron_G8FJG> good decodes on 869,850
[11:21] <Ron_G8FJG> well done .279 here but so much qrm I dan even see the LORA underneath
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[11:38] <Ron_G8FJG> PE2BZ the bearing to daveake is my worst for qrm..it fires directly over London ..my noise floor can go up 15db on all bands.
[11:38] <Ron_G8FJG> bigger the antenna the more qrm you can hear
[11:39] <PE1ANS> Ron_G8FJG, tnx info Ron..
[11:40] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03LU1ESY-11 after 035 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=LU1ESY-11
[11:43] <PE1ANS> First signals came in at 434.271.9,, but no decode yet
[11:47] <PE1ANS> first packet received on 434.2727.7.....
[11:47] <PE1ANS> sorry 434.272.7
[11:49] <Ron_G8FJG> image info stopped @14000 mtr for HERO I/ve pulled the plug too much in Q ,,for the time being
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[11:57] <fsphil> aww
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[12:03] <PE2BZ> Darkside, auto_rx for pb0ahx gives upload error for all packets, rate limited, setting in the config is 30 seconds any idea ? V 1.031
[12:03] <Darkside> hm
[12:03] <Darkside> cant remember we we blocked that version
[12:03] <Darkside> mwheeler: ?
[12:03] <daveake> Oh, SSDV stopped?
[12:04] <daveake> Guess I didn't charge that gopro enough
[12:04] <Darkside> cant charge it in flight?
[12:04] <daveake> I did add a powerbank
[12:04] <daveake> So /should/ have been fine
[12:05] <Ron_G8FJG> now I've found the right combo of lna, filte,r and antenna HERO4 has stopped
[12:05] <daveake> hero4 fine here
[12:06] <PE1ANS> Also here
[12:07] <Ron_G8FJG> no ssdv
[12:07] <daveake> Yeah seems gopro has stopped
[12:08] <daveake> power or temperature dunno
[12:08] <daveake> Anyone on CALLME ?
[12:11] <PE2BZ> callme is at 433.650 ? starting to get crc failures over there.
[12:13] <Darkside> PE2BZ: the rate limiting is one packet per payload callsign every 60 seconds. it definitely shouldn't be every packet being rate limited
[12:13] <Darkside> im watching my stations log and i can see the rate limiting behaving as expected
[12:14] <mwheeler> PE2BZ: what's your call sign and version your running?
[12:15] <Darkside> mwheeler: it was PB0AHX and he was running 1.0.3.1
[12:15] <Darkside> did we block that version?
[12:15] <PE2BZ> so not limited to one upload per receiver station but limited to one upload per radiosonde ?
[12:15] <mwheeler> autorx-1.0.2.1 is the min required version, so it should be working
[12:15] <mwheeler> PE2BZ: one message per callsign per 60 seconds
[12:15] <PE2BZ> Now he did get one upload.
[12:16] <Darkside> mwheeler: radiosonde callsign?
[12:16] <mwheeler> radiosonde + station call
[12:16] <mwheeler> if your getting rate limited messages they you should be fine
[12:16] <mwheeler> we should possibly make autorx not show it as an error
[12:17] <Darkside> yeah probably
[12:17] <PE2BZ> But with continous RX for PB0AHX he only gets an upload about every 7 minutes or so ?
[12:17] <mwheeler> because it's fine for us to get a message per second hitting ES
[12:18] <mwheeler> PE2BZ: what was the station callsign or radiosonde serial so I can look it
[12:18] <Darkside> mwheeler: it would obviously be better if we can stop rate limiting at all
[12:18] <Darkside> (though i'd still keep it on at some sensible rate of maybe 15 seconds or so
[12:19] <mwheeler> yeah
[12:19] <Darkside> mwheeler: station callsign is PB0AHX
[12:19] <Darkside> not sure if there's a -1 on teh end of that
[12:19] <PE2BZ> pb0ahx_auto_rx
[12:21] <PE2BZ> with RS_P0950295
[12:21] <mwheeler> ah, PB0AHX_UBUNTU_AUTO_RX
[12:22] <PE2BZ> mwheeler, good catch. PB0AHX did forget that part ;-)
[12:22] <mwheeler> cool, it's coming through ok into ES, and I'll check what habhub is saying
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[12:25] <Ron_G8FJG> daveake got a good decode from CALLME that retuned me into the qrm..then returned to callme like it should :-)
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[12:33] <craag> no decodes from CALLME on the farnham websdr yet
[12:34] <hyde00001> So whilst lurking, I 'd noticed various historical comments regarding the habhub map lagging. If I'm reading the logtail and map info right it looks like there is at least a 30 minute lag on daveake's flight today - pretty much unusable for chasing. Is it reasonable to assume that clever people are working on a solution???
[12:34] <craag> Yes they are hyde00001
[12:34] <hyde00001> hooray!
[12:35] <craag> a lot of the older sonde data is being removed from the database as we speak to speed things up
[12:35] <mwheeler> PE2BZ: it seems to be getting fine. I can see it getting in every minute and the response from habhub is ok, so I don't think you need to worry about it
[12:35] <mwheeler> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/bslRzQkM/image.png
[12:36] <PE2BZ> mwheeler thanks for checking !
[12:36] <mwheeler> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/4bUdZhRg/image.png
[12:36] <mwheeler> PE2BZ: no worries :) always happy to
[12:36] <Darkside> mwheeler: we should probably increase the rate limit, given the tracker is still lagging
[12:36] <mwheeler> Darkside: oh no :(
[12:36] <mwheeler> 1 per 2 minutes?
[12:37] <Darkside> yeah
[12:37] <mwheeler> Done
[12:37] <mwheeler> I might change the error message
[12:37] <Darkside> interestingly the time taken to parse the string has gone up agaon
[12:38] <Darkside> im also not seeing any sonde telemetry at all showing up int eh logtail
[12:38] <Darkside> oh wait
[12:39] <Darkside> ah
[12:39] <Darkside> HERO is updating every second
[12:39] <Darkside> daveake: !
[12:40] <Darkside> wait
[12:40] <Darkside> thats more than once per second
[12:40] <mwheeler> 1 per second per receiver ?
[12:40] <Darkside> i think habitat is smart enough to merge duplicate packets and not re-parse
[12:41] <Darkside> but the HERO payload is transmitting packets at a very high rate
[12:41] <Darkside> Status Code: 200 {"message": "HabHub is currently under heavy load. You telementry has been recorded in SondeHub DB but not forwarded to HabHub. Please do not panic!"}.
[12:41] <Darkside> haha
[12:41] <Darkside> nice
[12:43] <mwheeler> I was considering hacking ponysay into there
[12:43] <mwheeler> but effort
[12:43] <PB0AHX-Herman> 2019-07-04 14:42:51,299 ERROR:Habitat - Error uploading to Habitat. Status Code: 200 {"message": "HabHub is currently under heavy load. You telementry has been recorded in SondeHub DB but not forwarded to HabHub. Please do not panic!"}.
[12:43] <PB0AHX-Herman> hihihihi fun text
[12:43] <mwheeler> :)
[12:43] <mwheeler> yeah, the last wording seemed far too much like an error
[12:43] <Darkside> of course users need to be on a vaguely new version to even see that
[12:43] <Darkside> cant remember when that was added..
[12:44] <mwheeler> Darkside: pretty sure we added that in during LCA
[12:44] <Darkside> was definitely a while ago
[12:44] <Darkside> hah
[12:44] <Darkside> those versions will be blocked then
[12:44] <PB0AHX-Herman> this is better
[12:44] <PE2BZ> daveake, Ch 1: Calling message, new frequency 434.454
[12:44] <PE2BZ> Ch1: CRC Failure, RSSI -128
[12:44] Last message repeated 1 time(s).
[12:44] <PE2BZ> Return to calling mode
[12:45] <hyde00001> Amusing/odd watching daveake chase car in real time and HERO payloads half an hour in the past...
[12:45] <PE2BZ> But the HERO4 appears not to be on 434.450 ?
[12:45] <mwheeler> Darkside: I was kind of hoping I could automatically adjust sondehub based on latency of the endpoint, but the parse runs separately so I can't really monitor that
[12:46] <Darkside> mwheeler: you'd have to monitor the logtail i guess
[12:46] <mwheeler> yeah I guess I could do that ish
[12:46] <Darkside> anyway, the current latency isnt eing helped by dave's payload transmitting packets at about 3Hz
[12:47] <mwheeler> ah
[12:47] <Darkside> have a look at the logtail history
[12:47] <Darkside> http://habitat.habhub.org/logtail/
[12:47] <mwheeler> I'm making a note that if I ever launch a balloon it's not going to be during sonde time :P
[12:47] <Darkside> mwheeler: all of our horus launches are during sonde time :P
[12:48] <Darkside> but hopefully we can resolve this
[12:48] <Darkside> still, i suspect if dave wasnt updating at 3 Hz it would probably be OK
[12:52] <daveake> If anyone is uploading from the 869MHz signal, probably best to stop :)
[12:53] <daveake> I've found somewhere to stop, and have the payload's landing prediction on my map, so I'll set off for there soon
[12:53] <PE2BZ> Darkside, mwheeler any idea why the telemetrie stats are broken ?
[12:53] <Ron_G8FJG> done that already
[12:54] <Darkside> PE2BZ: no idea
[12:55] <mwheeler> PE2BZ: which stats?
[12:56] <PE2BZ> habitat.habhub.org the Pie with the telemetry receivers
[12:56] <mwheeler> ohhh, I've never used that before
[12:56] <mwheeler> that's a habhub thing which I don't do
[12:56] <mwheeler> probably related to the db cleanup
[13:01] <PE2BZ> daveake, what´s the altitude atm ?
[13:01] <Ron_G8FJG> 11km
[13:01] <PE2BZ> That´s after burst ?
[13:02] <Ron_G8FJG> suspect so ...
[13:02] <hyde00001> So... in flight predictions from 13:16 put daveakes landing site north of Chippenham... the habhub map north of Bristol and SanteFe chase is currently between the two....only the balloon knows...
[13:02] <Ron_G8FJG> 10 km right now
[13:04] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KD0HIP-7 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD0HIP-7
[13:04] <hyde00001> or Ron_G8FJG with live reception...
[13:04] <daveake> Balloon says just west of "Players' Golf Course"
[13:05] <daveake> and slowly moving west
[13:05] <hyde00001> west look good - not too many trees...
[13:12] <daveake> I'm on a hill should get telemetry till to close to the ground
[13:13] <Ron_G8FJG> calling message still going ..qrm on 450 subsided a bit,,,,,, call me decoding
[13:14] <daveake> ah good
[13:18] <Ron_G8FJG> think I've lost HERO at just over 3km//// and back to calling mode
[13:23] <daveake> see it
[13:23] <daveake> directly up
[13:24] <daveake> saw it land, nearly
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[13:30] <Ron_G8FJG> well done
[13:34] <hyde00001> well done!
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[13:36] <daveake> Job jobbed :)
[13:36] <daveake> So easy ... went up to a layby closer to the payload, but that was the wrong side of the treeline, so came back. Then spotted farmer jack driving round the field ...
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[13:37] <daveake> ... waved him over, and the conversation was "Have you seen a parachute?" "No, have you seen my calf I've lost?"
[13:37] <daveake> Anyway I found both, so we did each other a favour :D
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[13:40] <tweetBot> @daveake: Payload recovered :) #ukhas https://t.co/Swc2pitUmJ
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[13:45] <daveake> GoPro still powered up so dunno why the imaging stopped. Hopefully it'll stay powered till I get home and can connect to the PI and take a look.
[13:47] <tweetBot> @daveake: Coming in to land .... #ukhas https://t.co/hXybt5HLG5
[13:47] <daveake> Right, home ....
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[14:28] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03W5LCY-7 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W5LCY-7
[14:28] <PE2BZ> Is it me or did the ¨local time¨ on the tracker page shift by 1 hour ?
[14:40] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SKY-KONG after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SKY-KONG
[14:42] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03WL-HAB - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WL-HAB
[14:42] Nick change: BitEvil -> SpeedEvil
[14:50] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03VC0706 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VC0706
[14:52] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PE2BZ-4FSK - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PE2BZ-4FSK
[15:15] <daveake> Home
[15:15] <daveake> Re SSDV stopping .... the GoPro is still on with plenty of battery; tracker still running
[15:15] <daveake> Tracker still connected to GoPro over WiFi
[15:16] <daveake> However gopro library reports "busy" when my script tries to take a photo
[15:17] <daveake> In other news, a GoPro and Pi 3 A+ in a small box both get quite hot!
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[15:23] <fsphil> dave, finder of lost payloads and calves
[15:23] <fsphil> maybe it overheated?
[15:23] <fsphil> might stop taking pictures if it gets too toasty
[15:25] <daveake> It's very toasty
[15:25] <daveake> Waiting for it to cool down
[15:26] <daveake> Not had such a hot payload since pie1
[15:26] <daveake> Dunno why so toasty when it's taking stills every 30s not continuous video
[15:29] <daveake> I can take a photo manually tho
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[16:11] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03U3B-22 after 038 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=U3B-22
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[17:29] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KM4BUN-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KM4BUN-11
[17:41] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N0LNX_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N0LNX_chase
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[18:28] <tweetBot> @daveake: Snapped as it landed :) #ukhas https://t.co/AV9JOpfNjn
[18:28] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KM4ZIA-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KM4ZIA-11
[18:31] <daveake> Spot the payloads :) ^
[18:32] <daveake> Hint, there are 2 in that photo
[18:32] <SIbot> In real units: 2 in = 5.08 cm
[18:32] <daveake> bugger off bot
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[18:41] <SM0ULC-David> såja
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[18:59] <Bryanstein> I just picked up a sonde...sondehub wasn't working when I went into chase mode
[19:00] <Bryanstein> It was 15 minutes from my house :oP
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[19:05] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03STELLA21 after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=STELLA21
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[19:11] <SM0ULC-David> Bryanstein: happy hunting :)
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[20:19] <Bryanstein> SM0ULC-David, 73!
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[21:14] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03OAQ-PIS - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=OAQ-PIS
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