highaltitude.log.20190702

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[03:41] <labjg> Darkside def something wrong with my setup.. 2 h ago there was a RS heading straight from Canberra but I didn't pick it up lol
[03:41] <labjg> *for Canberra
[03:42] <labjg> maybe i'll pull out the preamp, see if that's the issue
[03:42] <Darkside> hnn
[03:42] <Darkside> hmm
[03:42] <Darkside> yeah maybe
[03:43] <Darkside> if you are using a preamp, you will want to wind the gain down on the sdr
[03:43] <Darkside> maube to 20db or so
[03:43] <Darkside> else it will overload
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[04:33] <labjg> Darkside yeah maybe i'm just slamming it
[04:34] <labjg> is SDR gain set in the auto_rx source code or elsewhere? i'm using the rtl sdr dongle
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[05:39] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03ICT2 after 039 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ICT2
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[06:15] <Darkside> labjg: station.cfg
[06:15] <labjg> great, will try it later
[06:15] <labjg> thx
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[08:14] <Bryanstein> They are doing a short test launch today so they put up a lot of sondes
[08:15] <Bryanstein> I had my antennna in the wrong spot so I missed most of yesterday's launches. It seems I need to connect a few more rtlsdrs to be able to track them all
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[08:41] <Darkside> heh
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[08:42] <Darkside> yeah, you'd need 2 or 3 probably
[08:42] <Darkside> Bryanstein: still, thats awesome that you are seein ghtem
[08:42] <Bryanstein> I know but I'm loosing them at pretty high altitudes
[08:43] <Bryanstein> The lowest I got one last week was 400m
[08:43] <Bryanstein> True indeed this discone is not high at all but now I'm loosing them at 2,000m
[08:44] <Darkside> depends on the distance of course, and terrain
[08:44] <Bryanstein> My predictions are a little off of what's on sondehub. Is it that they are using a shorter window on the wind prediction data?
[08:45] <Darkside> the sondehub predictions during ascent assume a burst altitude of 26km, and a 5m/s sea-level descent rate
[08:45] <Darkside> after burst the actual descent rate is used
[08:45] <Darkside> so theres a lot of room for error in those guesses on burst altitude and descent rate
[08:46] <Bryanstein> Yes that is my issue. I see balloons bursting here at 32000m to 34000m
[08:46] <Darkside> ah right
[08:46] <Darkside> that'd do it... its pretty much impossible to set different burst altitudes for different radiosonde launches
[08:47] <Bryanstein> The descent rate is slower too. Highest I've seen is -15 with the average around -3 and -5 once it settles
[08:48] <Darkside> yeah its the ground-level descent rate that matters
[08:48] <Bryanstein> Well of course but I figured that I'd do an average and set it at 32000 but I'm not sure if people do this and get better predictions
[08:50] <Bryanstein> I have at least 3 rtlsdr's and I have a plutosdr too but that won't do me much good :o/
[08:51] <Bryanstein> I need a coupler for these to use the same antenna
[08:51] <Darkside> a 2-way splitter would do
[08:53] <Bryanstein> Yes but that halves the signal...I don't have one of those lying around either
[08:54] <Bryanstein> Well actually I do but I can't mate to it. This sonde tracking is work, lol!
[08:55] <Bryanstein> I also have the issue of lightning and an hoa so I can't keep this antenna out really. Either the hoa gets you but more critical the lightning
[09:00] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Phoenix1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Phoenix1
[09:11] <Bryanstein> Yet another sonde lol
[09:20] <Bryanstein> Darkside, I just had a thought, auto_rx knows when the balloon is descending so why can't it send that elevation data along which could be used by the prediction software on a balloon by balloon basis? I just noticed that the icon changes once it's descending.
[09:27] <Bryanstein> Maybe that already happens :o?
[09:41] <fsphil> how often do you get thunderstorms there?
[09:44] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SCIFEST - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SCIFEST
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[09:56] <Darkside> Bryanstein: after burst the predictions runs using the current descent rate
[09:56] <Darkside> and the current position
[09:56] <Darkside> so pretty much, yes
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[10:10] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SCIFESTL - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SCIFESTL
[10:30] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03pa0kn_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=pa0kn_chase
[10:55] <daveake> Orion abort system test in 5 mins https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21X5lGlDOfg
[11:00] <Bryanstein> Yea daveake I'm tracking the sondes they're putting up for it.
[11:01] <Bryanstein> They've launched quite a few. I just added another dongle just to try and capture more
[11:03] <Bryanstein> I actually saw it go up from my backyard :oP
[11:03] <daveake> nice
[11:11] <Bryanstein> Watching that thing tumble out of the air is so unimpressive after seeing countless Spacex launches. I wonder how much government money, ie our tax dollars just went into the ocean :oX
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[11:16] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03N4SEV-11 after 037 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4SEV-11
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[11:18] <craag> Remember spacex had to do at least one of this exact test too
[11:19] <craag> also using tax dollars :)
[11:21] <russss> and they haven't done it yet because the tax dollars violently exploded
[11:21] <craag> oh yes that
[11:21] <craag> :D
[11:23] <Bryanstein> :oP
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[12:21] <dbrooke> https://xkcd.com/2170/
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[12:21] <dbrooke> can you resist looking what's there?
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[12:46] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Darkside Are you around Mark ?
[12:47] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Is it correct habhub have a big delay or drops packets?
[12:49] <Darkside> wow that is delayed quite badly
[12:50] <Darkside> we are intentionally dropping some packets going to habhub
[12:50] <Darkside> but it looks like it isn't having the desired effect...
[12:50] <Darkside> mwheeler: ^
[12:51] <Darkside> yeah, the parser appears to be almost 45 min behind
[12:52] <mwheeler> want me to switch maint mode back on?
[12:52] <Darkside> it would be interesting to see how quickly the parser catches up
[12:52] <Darkside> im thinking maybe we need harsher rate limiting
[12:53] <mwheeler> I can do that
[12:53] <Darkside> not 100% sure it will solce the issue
[12:53] <Darkside> solve*
[12:53] <mwheeler> current stats -> 107 t/min sondehub, 83 t/min to habhub
[12:54] <Darkside> the parser only seems to be able to parse one packet per second
[12:54] <mwheeler> ah
[12:54] <Darkside> hopefully adamgreig cleaning up the payload doc entries might speed that up
[12:54] <Darkside> maybe
[12:54] <mwheeler> I've changed rate limiting from 1 message per 10 seconds, to 1 message to 20 seconds
[12:55] <Darkside> ok
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[12:56] <Darkside> just looking at the logtail: http://habitat.habhub.org/logtail/
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[12:56] <Darkside> looks like it can only handle one packet per second..
[12:56] <Darkside> sentence*
[12:56] <Darkside> not sure if multiple users uploading causes it to be re-parsed or not
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[12:57] <Darkside> looks like its taking just under a second to parse a sentence
[12:57] <Darkside> ouch
[12:59] <Darkside> mwheeler: i'm looking at http://habitat.habhub.org/logtail/ btw
[13:01] <mwheeler> :(
[13:02] <mwheeler> should I rate limit more or just maintenance mode so it catches up ? maintenance mode until it catches up and maybe rate limit to 1 per minute until we find a better solution
[13:03] <Darkside> https://github.com/ukhas/habitat/blob/develop/habitat/parser.py
[13:03] <Darkside> yeah
[13:03] <Darkside> i think do that
[13:03] <Darkside> thats the parser code itself
[13:06] <daveake> dbrooke: No, couldn't resist :)
[13:11] <OZ1SKY_Brian> sorry about that, the phone rang
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[13:20] <jonny_eal> What is the current issue with the parser/tracker testing a LoRa and RTTY payload and getting intermittent sentences passed
[13:20] <Darkside> big delay due to lots of traffic
[13:20] <Darkside> will hopefully be resolved soon..
[13:21] <jonny_eal> Will it help turning my payloads off then?
[13:21] <Darkside> depends how often it updates
[13:21] <jonny_eal> Lora is updating every couple of seconds
[13:24] <mwheeler> sondehub was doing about 3 per second at peak
[13:28] <jonny_eal> Turned off now. Was hoping to do a last minute launch tomorrow afternoon.
[13:29] <Darkside> damn, havitat is over an hour behind at the moment
[13:32] <OZ1SKY_Brian> yeah something is not right, i saw the auto_rx uploading ok, but hauhub was way off
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[14:08] <craag> Hmm sounds like if jonny wants some useful support for his flight tomorrow then we need to get the rtty->irc bots out..
[14:24] <adamgreig> The parser only parses each document once
[14:25] <adamgreig> The time delay is almost entirely due to couchdb being slow as responding to finding the payload doc for the received telemetry
[14:25] <adamgreig> So yea hopefully purging payload docs will help
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[15:03] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03DL1VV-9 after 0316 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DL1VV-9
[15:31] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03Phoenix1 after 036 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Phoenix1
[15:37] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03U3B-25 after 0313 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=U3B-25
[15:38] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03U3B-27 after 0314 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=U3B-27
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[16:42] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03U3B-22 after 0313 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=U3B-22
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[18:23] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SKY-KONG after 0321 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SKY-KONG
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[19:51] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BZPITS - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BZPITS
[19:53] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03V4 after 033 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=V4
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[22:23] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03ICT2 after 0316 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ICT2
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[23:08] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VK5QI-9_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VK5QI-9_chase
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[23:44] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VK5LJG-9_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VK5LJG-9_chase
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