highaltitude.log.20190619

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[01:28] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KD2KPZ-5 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD2KPZ-5
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[03:49] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03ICT1 after 0313 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ICT1
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[05:59] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RISHCS_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RISHCS_chase
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[07:03] <SA6BSS-Mike> PE2BZ: 434.629 100 bd 380 shift 7n2 is correct, nothing yet.
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[07:38] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03U3B-25 after 0314 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=U3B-25
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[08:39] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03XSky4CAR_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=XSky4CAR_chase
[08:59] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SITS-4 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SITS-4
[09:02] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SITS-3 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SITS-3
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[09:13] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03STELLA20 after 033 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=STELLA20
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[09:36] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03HB9FKC-10 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HB9FKC-10
[09:57] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03U3B-22 after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=U3B-22
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[10:28] <Habby> RISHCS is ready to go but no balloon symbol on tracker.habhub.org
[10:28] <Habby> Just release?
[10:29] <Darkside> hmm
[10:29] <Darkside> its getting into habitat OK
[10:30] <Darkside> yes OK to launch
[10:30] <Habby> Predicted landing site?
[10:30] <Habby> Thank you
[10:30] <Darkside> it will go to balloon symbol when you launch
[10:30] <Darkside> you may have issues with prediction suntil it bursts
[10:30] <Darkside> until it bursts*
[10:31] <Darkside> the tracker seems to think you had a max altitude of 33km, so it may not predict the burst altitude correctly
[10:31] <Darkside> however once the balloon bursts, the predictions will be OK
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[10:35] <Habby_> OK, it's up
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[10:39] <Habby_> test
[10:39] <Habby_> Anyone see it :)(
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[10:47] <Habby> Any new on RISHCS I;ve lost it
[10:47] <fsphil> uhoh
[10:47] <fsphil> even the rtty?
[10:47] <daveake> drifted off frequency?
[10:47] <Habby> KI can see the waterfall but no decode
[10:48] <Habby> Getting something on 434.465
[10:48] <Habby> No
[10:49] <Habby> 434.646
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[10:51] <mwheeler> oh no
[10:52] <Habby> Nothing on LoRa
[10:52] <Darkside> too far north for the SUWS websde
[10:52] <Darkside> websdr*
[10:52] <fsphil> nothin here, but still probably a bit low
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[10:59] <Habby> 434.648
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[11:00] <Habby> I'm still getting a signal but can't decode...?
[11:00] <g8fjg> I se it on 434.645 ..but my main am
[11:00] <fsphil> can you take a screenshot?
[11:00] <g8fjg> antennas are down
[11:01] <g8fjg> its drifting hf
[11:01] <fsphil> I think I can see the rtty on the waterfall
[11:01] <fsphil> still very weak here
[11:03] <fsphil> also got something beeping every second
[11:03] <fsphil> probably unrelated
[11:04] <Habby> It's set to transmit 2 packets every 20 secs. Rest is LoRa
[11:05] <fsphil> ah, an update
[11:05] <g8fjg> https://imgur.com/h8ReiVo
[11:06] <fsphil> from G8DVR
[11:06] <daveake> habby sent me this just now:
[11:06] <daveake> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/gBXMGq5w/image.png
[11:06] <daveake> Says no decode, but that looks fine
[11:06] <fsphil> that signal looks fine
[11:06] <fsphil> yeah
[11:06] <fsphil> got a wider screenshot?
[11:06] <Habby> Just decoded a signal
[11:06] <daveake> Suggested he may have been tuned to a reflection at launch and that Rv might be worth doing
[11:06] <daveake> Ah cool
[11:07] <Habby> Just RTTY 434.644.5
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[11:11] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Habby_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Habby_chase
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[11:13] <fsphil> looks like Habby is receiving it now
[11:15] <daveake> happy habby
[11:16] <fsphil> the mysterious ticking noise is back
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[11:18] <Habby> Is Bozzy about?
[11:18] <Darkside> fsphil: snape, snape, severus snape
[11:19] <fsphil> Darkside: Dumbledore!
[11:19] <fsphil> ah it's stopped. nothing exploded
[11:19] <Habby> The ticking stopped?
[11:19] <fsphil> did, its back again. it's something local to here
[11:20] <Darkside> fsphil: glad somebody got the reference
[11:20] <fsphil> the signal's definitly down on what it should be at this range
[11:20] <fsphil> maybe the antenna isn't quite right
[11:21] <Habby> 434.645
[11:22] <nmcc> I have LoRa listening, well within range, does anyone have a freq as I'm hearing nothing on 434.368 as published
[11:25] <fsphil> nmcc: seems to be a very weak signal
[11:28] <nmcc> Would be useful to know if they are using the LoRa board to tx the RTTY as well, so I don't just tune past the LoRa. No SSDV either ...
[11:29] <Habby> LoRa sending RTTY
[11:29] <Habby> both
[11:29] <Habby> SSDV was fine on LoRa but not on RTTY
[11:29] <nmcc> Confirm LoRa frequency please
[11:30] <Habby> Was suppsed to be 434.368
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[11:31] <nmcc> What are you getting it on now
[11:31] <daveake> Habby: If you enable RTTY and LoRa, it only sends SSDV over the LoRa transmissions. RTFM :)
[11:32] <daveake> nmcc It's doing RTTY via the LoRa module; only one radio on this.
[11:32] <daveake> So whichever signal you look for, you may need to wait till it transmits it
[11:33] <Habby> I;ve not got LoRa since we let go. Was rX fine on ground
[11:33] <daveake> Tried tuning around ? It may well have drifted
[11:33] <G8DVR> Lot's of interference on this frequency in Manchester>
[11:33] <fsphil> Habby: are you still decoding it?
[11:33] <nmcc> I've tried 1kHz increments for the last 15 or so minutes
[11:34] <Habby> I've tuned around in 1kHz steps.Have to swap fromRTTY to do that so going to swap back
[11:34] <spookydillow> 434645.8
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[11:37] <nmcc> G8FJG down in London, must have a Jodrell Bank style installation!
[11:39] <g8fjg> this is on my little antenna 10' off ground..Too much lightning last night to leave all the metal in the air...coward
[11:39] <fsphil> the south east got quite a show last night
[11:40] <g8fjg> I've been hit once..that was enough
[11:41] <fsphil> property or literally you?
[11:42] <fsphil> the predictor hasn't been behaving this flight
[11:42] <nmcc> g8fjg: What size is a little antenna
[11:43] <nmcc> It would be interesting to know what the burst height is predicted, because at this ascent rate, a boat may be indicated
[11:44] <fsphil> default predictor burst should be 30km, but it seems to be ignoring that
[11:44] <Habby> Neck lift was fine. No wind. Put extra in. Aimed for 5.5m/s
[11:45] <Habby> Damn it!
[11:45] <daveake> Well this is what I get for 30km burst ... http://predict.habhub.org/#!/uuid=e0e4459bdf283b90404ac21ec73776a4e06cba3c
[11:45] <g8fjg> 15 ele x pol but only 10' up on an az-el mount...really for LEO satellites
[11:45] <daveake> Just arough stab at posn
[11:46] <daveake> But odd that the static predictor shows a turn right now, and the live one doesn't
[11:46] <nmcc> daveake: in flight predictions - that's a useful blog post
[11:46] <fsphil> I've put in an explicit burst alt of 30km for that callsign
[11:47] <nmcc> I don't think we have enough fixes to see the turn yet
[11:47] <fsphil> lets see if it updates
[11:47] <daveake> Did one for the flight that Steve and I nearly lost ... loss of (good) telemetry 2/3rds of the way up; prediction was within 200m
[11:47] <Habby> Prediction was 34km
[11:48] <fsphil> okie, I've put that in
[11:48] <daveake> Still fine according to http://predict.habhub.org/#!/uuid=5e65cef37b5627cddb37232a500c40c065e1adec
[11:48] <fsphil> Habby: hope you're already on the way to the landing area? :)
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[11:49] <Habby> We are on the way
[11:49] <Habby> Ignore the Chase Car
[11:50] <nmcc> Yeah, SITS4 shows the airmass is showing the turn about this altitude
[11:50] <Habby> Uodated chase car
[11:50] <daveake> starting to turn
[11:50] <fsphil> hmm, no go on the live predictor
[11:51] <Habby> Head for Chop Gate?
[11:51] <fsphil> that assumes it bursts right now
[11:52] <Habby> OK thanks. Where would you head to?
[11:52] <nmcc> Habby: daveake prediction shows half way between Northallerton & Darlington - Leeming Bar or Catterick and turn right
[11:52] <nmcc> Habby: Birkby, next the train line
[11:52] <daveake> Hopefully iy'll kick in after burst
[11:53] <fsphil> oh maybe the live predictor is not working because the max altitude is 33341m
[11:53] <daveake> ah yes that'll be it
[11:54] <fsphil> wonder where that's coming from
[11:55] <Habby> Yesterday when I tested it. When I brought it inside it gave that reading
[11:55] <Habby> And it stuck
[11:57] <Habby> Directly underneath means poor signal right?
[11:57] <daveake> yup
[11:58] <daveake> I've 2-3 times had to drive away from the balloon
[11:59] <fsphil> I've removed yesterdays data from the spacenear db, hopefully that'll clear it
[12:00] <Habby> Doing that now A168 then A19
[12:00] <Habby> PS - THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR HELPING!!! :)
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[12:00] <Darkside> fsphil: any chancei can get you to test out the email notification on the latest auto_rx release?
[12:00] <Darkside> i dont have any smtp servers to test it against
[12:01] <fsphil> oh yes, live predictions are back
[12:01] <daveake> there we go
[12:01] <fsphil> Darkside: can do!
[12:01] <Darkside> fsphil: it now has SSL support, but i think i may have broken regular SMTP support
[12:01] <Darkside> it *looks* like it shoudl be OK
[12:01] <Habby> Should have stayed on the A1
[12:03] <nmcc> Habby: You've got an hour and a bit to get close, but yeah, A1 would be best, turn at Catterick
[12:04] <fsphil> this is not too far from where one of mine landed, and still is :)
[12:04] <daveake> 1 trillion hab points for finding it
[12:05] <fsphil> the note on the side does mention a reward for return
[12:06] <Habby> Yup
[12:06] <Habby> Baxk on A1 or keep going?
[12:08] <nmcc> Google Maps says A168, 33 mins drive
[12:08] <nmcc> aka Northallerton
[12:08] <fsphil> might be worth saying on the A19 a bit, in case it bursts earlier
[12:09] <fsphil> though I think you've got plenty of time either way
[12:10] <nmcc> Moving to different office, going offline but here in spirit
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[12:15] <g8fjg> lora 434.200
[12:17] <g8fjg> ish
[12:19] <Habby> Got a signal?
[12:20] <g8fjg> look at your ssdv
[12:20] <Habby> Looking!! WOOOP
[12:21] <daveake> nice
[12:21] <G7NSJ> Pictures are amazing guys !
[12:23] <g8fjg> i've been trolling up and down the band , just recognised the signal shape
[12:23] <Habby> Jiust received LoRa packets Thanks!
[12:23] <Habby> g8fjg legend
[12:23] <G7NSJ> its keeping me occupied , as i have been bed bound for 3 days with a damaged tendon and cant walk.
[12:30] <Habby> I;ve lost LoRa again
[12:32] <Habby> Got it 434.204
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[12:38] <Habby> At the predicted landing site
[12:38] <daveake> There's your 35km
[12:39] <g8fjg> crc,s :-(
[12:41] <daveake> 36km
[12:41] <daveake> Chinese rubber ?
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[12:42] <g8fjg> I think it got to 37288
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[12:43] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03ON2GA_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ON2GA_chase
[12:43] <Habby> Anyone got LoRa?
[12:44] <g8fjg> falling too fast out of my range now I suspect
[12:44] <daveake> Going down
[12:45] <Habby> What does CRC failure mean?
[12:45] <g8fjg> errors
[12:45] <daveake> Means too weak or mistuned
[12:46] <g8fjg> cyclic redundancy check
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[12:48] <g8fjg> good pics ...no 126 only a few blocks missing here
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[12:51] <g8fjg> got to go...get the big antennas back up...:-))
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[12:53] <fsphil> soo.. lora was on the wrong frequency?
[12:55] <nmcc> Yup, 434.200 or thereabouts
[12:56] <nmcc> I'm getting -133 & CRC errors only
[12:57] <daveake> That's very weak
[12:58] <fsphil> oh just noticed the altitude, 37km, nice one
[13:00] <Habby> $$RISHCS,4812:59:53,54.28757,-1.70703,00616,5,138,12,9.8*024D
[13:00] <Habby> Bad Checksum
[13:00] <Habby> Little 3G here
[13:03] <fsphil> oh, that last one puts it near a reservoir
[13:04] <Habby> Of course it does ... oh good grief
[13:05] <Habby> Loch Erne all over again
[13:05] <fsphil> I think the tracker is running behind again
[13:05] <fsphil> there's a time lag
[13:05] <fsphil> the string you posted puts it east of that water
[13:05] <Habby> If we get close to there, we should be able to sweep for it?
[13:06] <fsphil> yeah hopefully you should still hear it when you get closer
[13:06] <fsphil> it'll be on the ground now
[13:06] <daveake> yeah habitat lagging again
[13:06] <Habby> 'ground' hopefully
[13:07] <daveake> It showed max alt minutes after it was mentioned here
[13:07] <Habby> So big time lag
[13:10] <Habby> I can hear the signal from here and we're 35mins drive away good sign
[13:10] <daveake> Treeeee
[13:10] <fsphil> lol yeah
[13:10] <daveake> or hill
[13:11] <Habby> I have a pole and walking boots.
[13:11] <daveake> Well tell the pole to climb the tree
[13:11] <Habby> haha
[13:14] <daveake> Prediction from that last point http://predict.habhub.org/#!/uuid=4714894c89b9fc031f5388f653606a8b288180be
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[13:14] <daveake> so my guess is that tree the prediction passes
[13:15] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03VORTEX1 after 0322 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VORTEX1
[13:37] <fsphil> must be a 3g void
[13:38] <daveake> yeah
[13:39] <nmcc> We call them National Parks
[13:39] <fsphil> there was no hint of a signal at all when I was in the dales
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[13:50] <nmcc> I'm a Community First Responder in the High Peak - I carry three phones ...
[13:52] <chris_99> do you use some kind of long range radio, as well as cell phones?
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[14:05] <Habby> $$RISHCS,6304,14:04:43,54.28?15,-1.7179,001620,0.12,q9.4*FBD7
[14:05] <Habby> BAD CHECKSUM
[14:05] <Habby> sorry
[14:05] <Habby> bad checksum
[14:05] <fsphil> do you have other strings?
[14:06] <fsphil> could probably piece it together
[14:06] <Habby> Yes, got decent signal.
[14:06] <fsphil> oh the map has updated anyway
[14:07] <fsphil> it's in a tree right next to the resevoir
[14:07] <Habby> 37:16,54.10321,-1.42801,18019,22,38,12,-28.5*0D59
[14:07] <fsphil> reservoir
[14:07] <Habby> $$RISHCS,3829,11:37:16,54.10321,-1.42801,18019,22,38,12,-28.5*0D59
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[14:07] <fsphil> it looks like a big tree
[14:08] <fsphil> there's a farm house not far from it
[14:08] <Habby> Decoded green light
[14:09] <daveake> https://tracker.habhub.org/#!mt=satellite&mz=19&qm=All&mc=54.28705,-1.71863&f=RISHCS&q=RISH*
[14:09] <daveake> Tree
[14:10] <daveake> Bad luck hitting that one
[14:10] <daveake> Hopefully the chute/line/latex is hanging low enough to grab
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[14:23] <PE2BZ> SA6BSS-Mike, 434.632 was the last heard frequency yesterday. Sorry for my late reply.
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[14:27] <nmcc> Maybe the house has a ladder ...
[14:30] <G7NSJ> or a chainsaw !
[14:30] Action: PE2BZ recommends a chainsaw / drone combination
[14:32] <G7NSJ> fishing pole if you can borrow one locally
[14:33] <nmcc> Shotgun
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[14:35] <G7NSJ> maybe a cherry picker if a local farmer has one and may help
[14:44] <nmcc> Cherry's don't grow well this far up north
[14:45] <daveake> Black Pudding picker then
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[14:47] <Haby> Erm....
[14:48] <Haby> What can I get for a trillion hab points?
[14:48] <daveake> 10p
[14:49] <daveake> Lord Lucan was hiding in the tree? Elvis? Shergar?
[14:50] <Haby> Thanks very much all for the help and support :) :) :)
[14:50] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BSS21 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BSS21
[14:50] <daveake> You can switch it off now unless you want your journey home tracked :)
[14:56] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03DL4AAS-2 after 0313 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DL4AAS-2
[14:58] <dg2fs> Picture of the recovered balloon found on twitter: https://twitter.com/Rishworth_IT/status/1141353132301213696
[14:59] <Haby> https://twitter.com/Rishworth_IT/status/1141353132301213696
[15:00] <Haby> Oh, yes, that. Beat me to it! hha
[15:00] <Haby> Still got half a tank of gas, too...
[15:01] <nmcc> Did you throw students in to the tree to knock it down?
[15:05] <Haby> It was just underneath the edge of the tree. I think it had bounced down the hill. Balloon had wrapped around the chute. We decoded from a mile out.
[15:06] <Haby> I think we need to work on the antenna before next launch.
[15:06] <Haby> Very close to reservoir
[15:07] <Haby> Battery pack [AA powered mobile phone charger (c) daveake] still holding up
[15:07] <fsphil> oh congrats
[15:07] <Haby> daveake 's tracker design was spot on
[15:07] <daveake> 2 or 4 AAs ?
[15:07] <Haby> 4 AAs
[15:07] <daveake> yeah 2 is marginal
[15:07] <Haby> For 30g it wasn't worth it
[15:08] <Haby> We had a 360 camera on the top...
[15:08] <Haby> Which we did not turn on before launch. Long story....
[15:08] <Haby> It would have been awesome.
[15:08] <Haby> 360 camera still fine when retrieved
[15:09] <fsphil> aww
[15:09] <Haby> I know
[15:09] <Haby> We have more gas. We need another balloon
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[16:15] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03XSK4 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=XSK4
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[16:47] <PE2BZ> Is there a wildcard to use to search in the habitat payload database ? like ¨all with BZ ¨ ? *BZ and %BZ do not work.
[17:14] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PE2BZ-4FSK - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PE2BZ-4FSK
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[19:37] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SSTAR0323 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SSTAR0323
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[21:54] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03STELLA20 after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=STELLA20
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