highaltitude.log.20190618

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[00:45] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KD2KDD-15 after 037 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD2KDD-15
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[05:05] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03U3B-22 after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=U3B-22
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[05:11] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03ICT1 after 0313 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ICT1
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[06:51] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BSS21 after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BSS21
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[08:34] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03FPC - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=FPC
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[08:45] <Habby> PE2BZ, would 434.643 be clear in the Netherlands?
[08:48] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03U3B-25 after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=U3B-25
[08:59] <Habby> daveake - Is it possible to add an external temp sensor to the PiZero Light Tracker setup? If so, which GPIO pin should I use, please?
[09:00] <daveake> You could stack a prototyping card, or solder directly to the gpio pins on the underside of the zero
[09:01] <daveake> There's a standard pin fr the ds18b20 ... google for how to add one to a pi and it'll have the pin number etc
[09:02] <Habby> Thanks. Was thinking about going straight to the pins. Is there a standard GPIO pin you use in the software?
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[09:02] <Habby> Ah, just seen your reply.
[09:03] <daveake> It's an OS function
[09:03] <daveake> Make sure it's enabled in raspi-config
[09:06] <Habby> Looks like pin 4.
[09:06] <Habby> Thank you :)
[09:07] <daveake> remember that's bcm pin 4 not pysical pin 4
[09:07] <daveake> +h
[09:08] <Habby> Physical pin 7
[09:09] <Habby> Assume I can double up to take from a 3.3V pin?
[09:09] <Habby> afk
[09:12] <daveake> yes
[09:25] <Habby> Thanks again
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[09:50] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SITS-6 after 0315 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SITS-6
[09:55] <G7NSJ> Does anyone on here track and chase/retrieve the RS41 units ?
[09:56] <fsphil> a few do
[09:56] <fsphil> I've got a couple
[09:57] <G7NSJ> west wales launches are dropping around my are at the min. not been out to collect one yet , but am interested
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[09:59] <G7NSJ> i heard one yesterday and very soon after the burst it stopped transmitting, not sure if the batteries just died ?
[10:00] <daveake> I think some are programmed to do that
[10:00] <daveake> dunno about the uk ones
[10:00] <G7NSJ> thanks Dave , that makes it harder to find them !!
[10:00] <daveake> afaik the uk ones aren't, though they may have got that one wrong
[10:02] <G7NSJ> i did try to find one a month ago but it hit the deck before i was anywhere near and i lost it
[10:03] <G7NSJ> I gather you have to be very close to them as they descend to get a better chance of retrieval
[10:03] <daveake> I should go and chase one sometime ... I've got a receiver set up in the car
[10:04] <fsphil> the closer the better
[10:04] <fsphil> they usually continue transmitting for a few hours after landing
[10:04] <fsphil> so unless they land in water you'd still hear it
[10:05] <G7NSJ> i will do that, i am thinking of using the rtl sdr ,sdr sharp and rs41 tracker ,
[10:06] <G7NSJ> or the scanner and rs 41 tracker
[10:07] <G7NSJ> Dave, what do you use with your receiver ?
[10:12] <daveake> Pi + SDR + auto_rx
[10:13] <daveake> To display it, I have an Android app on the car's head unit, picking up telemetry from the Pi via UDP
[10:13] <daveake> As usual, I write all this stuff and haven't used it yet :/
[10:14] <G7NSJ> great, i have that as a spare setup, i was going to ask how you display it,
[10:15] <G7NSJ> is the Android app available ?
[10:16] <daveake> heh, RSN :D
[10:16] <G7NSJ> RSN ?
[10:16] <daveake> Real Soon Now
[10:17] <daveake> Happy to send an APK. The map doesn't work on Android 9 'cos something changed and I'm waiting for a fix from the map people
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[10:17] <daveake> Actually I did share it before see http://www.daveakerman.com/?page_id=2494
[10:18] <G7NSJ> ok, I will have a look , i have a couple of tablets and a S9 phone so sure it will work on one of those.
[10:19] <daveake> That one is intended for phones
[10:19] <daveake> The tablet version has a bit more functionality and I'll put that it soon
[10:20] <G7NSJ> lovely stuff, will keep an eye open for it,
[10:26] <G7NSJ> Glad I kept my old S3 phone now, my S9 has Android 9 on it.Thanks for the info/help.
[10:38] <fsphil> hmm, I've an old tablet sitting about doing nothing. must get something to mount it in the car dash
[10:40] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SITS-2 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SITS-2
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[11:53] <Habby> daveake - added the ds18b20 but nothing showing in the telemetry string. Couldn't find anywhere in raspi-config to enable it?
[11:54] <daveake> Can you get the temperature through the OS ?
[11:54] <daveake> And it's "one-wire" in raspi-config
[11:55] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PC4L_MADHAB - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PC4L_MADHAB
[11:55] <Habby> one-wire is enabled (had to do that for the lightweight tracker set up)
[11:56] <Habby> I didn't add a resistor
[11:57] <daveake> Edit ds18b20, uncomment this line, remake:
[11:57] <daveake> / printf("%d: %5.3fC\n", SensorCount, Temperature);
[11:57] <daveake> // printf("%d: %5.3fC\n", SensorCount, Temperature);
[11:58] <daveake> see what you get. Once it sees the DS18B20, it'll use that instead of the GPU core sensor
[11:58] <daveake> So it won't add to the field count; it'll replace the existing internal temperature field
[11:59] <Habby> Do I need a resistor?
[11:59] <daveake> sometimes :)
[11:59] <daveake> I always add one
[11:59] <fsphil> yes
[11:59] <fsphil> I don't think the pi has an internal pullup?
[12:00] <daveake> AFAIK all the pins do, but whether they're enabled or not, and whether they are low enough value or not ....
[12:00] <fsphil> ah
[12:00] <daveake> Certainly all the pin I/O stuff I've done, you can enable pullup or down
[12:01] <daveake> It's a bit iffy anyway; I'd always add one
[12:18] <fsphil> so, resistance is *not* futile?
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[12:40] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RISHCS - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RISHCS
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[13:06] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KD2KPZ-6 after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD2KPZ-6
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[13:13] <PE2BZ> Habby, 434.643 would be a good frequency :-)
[13:14] <PE2BZ> Currently flying spontaneously PC4L_madhab 434.629 100 bd 380 shift 7n2 on solar panels
[13:15] <Habby> Went with 434.642 RTTY and 434.368 LoRa
[13:16] <Habby> Are they OK, PA2BZ?
[13:17] <PE2BZ> All ok !
[13:19] <Habby> OK, well fingers crossed for tomorrow then! :)
[13:20] <fsphil> oh, might just come into range here
[13:21] <PE2BZ> Habby, lora mode 1 ?
[13:22] <Habby> yes
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[13:25] <PE2BZ> So if I got it right, rtty 300 bd 610 shift 8n2 on 434.642
[13:26] <PE2BZ> I´ll do an announcemnt to the Dutch listeners and setup LoRa this evening.
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[13:41] <Bozzy> SITS very close to me again
[13:42] <fsphil> !flights
[13:42] <SpacenearUS> 03fsphil: Current flights: 03Phoenix 1 10(fb4f), 03MAD-PC4L 10(63fe)
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[13:51] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03AZUBI_DE after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=AZUBI_DE
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[15:20] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03OCULUS - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=OCULUS
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[16:09] <Habby> Thanks PE2BZ (re: Dutch announcement) :)
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[16:11] <Habby> daveake - Edited and remade DS18B20.c but still showing internal temp (which I assume is a measurement from the processor?)
[16:11] <Habby> I'll add a resistor next...
[16:11] <daveake> You should really check that the OS can see the sensor first
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[16:12] <daveake> Well, add the resistor then check in the OS. Don't bother running PITS till you can see it there
[16:16] <Habby> Thanks daveake Any pointers to links to show me how to monitor the OS from terminal?
[16:17] <daveake> Google it, or look in ds18b20.c to see where the sensor files end up
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[16:33] <SA6BSS-Mike> PE2BZ: did it die or was it low solar angle?
[16:33] <SA6BSS-Mike> any predictions?
[16:34] <SA6BSS-Mike> final flight tests of QRP Labs tracker, https://groups.io/g/QRPLabs/topic/qrp_labs_june_2019_newsletter/32104871?p=,,,20,0,0,0::recentpostdate%2Fsticky,,,20,2,0,32104871
[16:34] <SA6BSS-Mike> http://qrp-labs.com/images/news/jun2019/tracker.jpg
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[16:57] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03V4 after 0318 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=V4
[17:08] <PE2BZ> SA6BSS-Mike, No predictions, low solar angle and to much clouds around 3500 m altitude so after one single carrier it switched off now. Might / should / could come back tomorrow around 11 local time, a bit ( estimated 3 kHz) up in frequency
[17:08] <SA6BSS-Mike> ok
[17:08] <SA6BSS-Mike> wahts the targer altitude, what balloon was used?
[17:15] <PE2BZ> Do you ever have radio amateurs around which act impulsive ?
[17:17] <PE2BZ> It´s maduino board with lora module acting as rtty tracker, has solar power, parachute, and 67 gram total weight. Balloon was an 92 cm latex balloon, not a Pawan or Hwoyee type.
[17:17] <SA6BSS-Mike> hehe, it happens, if you have a dull time and you have all thing nececeray and nothing to do :)
[17:18] <SA6BSS-Mike> so its gona go and float high?
[17:18] <SA6BSS-Mike> https://ready.arl.noaa.gov/hypubout/168089_trj001.gif prediction for 6500m
[17:18] <PE2BZ> I have to look back. Flew a battery powered around 68 gram some time ago. let me find the data...
[17:19] <SA6BSS-Mike> this is for 22000m https://ready.arl.noaa.gov/hypubout/168319_trj001.gif
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[17:25] <PE2BZ> Our 67 gram payload floated at 1500 meter (to Danmark, that one) with 90 cm chinese latex. This one allready was higher (3452 m) at the last fix, after which the single carrier went up in strenght. So 6500 m could be possible :-)
[17:26] <PE2BZ> There is no way you can set different colors in the hysplit for the triangles at 00 Z instead of different format ?
[17:26] <PE2BZ> If I read the 6500 m predictor right it should be in your rx range tomorrow around noon /
[17:27] <PE2BZ> replace the / by ? ;-)
[17:27] <SA6BSS-Mike> yeah, if thats the case of float, then Im in a good spot :)
[17:28] <SA6BSS-Mike> https://ready.arl.noaa.gov/hypubout/168986_trj001.gif 4, 6 & 8k float
[17:29] <SA6BSS-Mike> 10, 13 and 16k https://ready.arl.noaa.gov/hypubout/169060_trj001.gif
[17:30] <SA6BSS-Mike> looks like im hona turn the yagi before I leve for work
[17:31] <SA6BSS-Mike> and connect the omni
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[17:35] <PE2BZ> Would be great Mike ! Thanks so far :-)
[17:37] <SA6BSS-Mike> chears :)
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[18:35] <Habby> daveake - Resistor did the trick :)
[18:35] <Habby> I posted a launch announcement to UKHAS Google Group earlier today. Is anyone around to approve it please?
[18:50] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03DC2EH-6 after 037 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DC2EH-6
[18:51] <PE2BZ> Habby, I did notice your announcement in the google group about an hour ago. You seem to be all set up :-)
[18:54] <Pit[m]> Does Hab Explora work with TTGO ESP32 HAB tracker?
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[19:06] <Habby> Ah, just seen it posted at 15:40 Great. thanks PE2BZ
[19:10] <daveake> Pit[m]: If you can get the Arduino firmware running on it then it should work
[19:10] <daveake> I don't have one so haven't tried it
[19:10] <Habby> afk
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[20:37] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RISHCS after 037 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RISHCS
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[21:01] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SA6BSS-9 after 038 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SA6BSS-9
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[22:12] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03MAGNU - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=MAGNU
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[23:26] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KD2KPZ-6 after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD2KPZ-6
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