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[03:52] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03TA2MUN-15 after 0314 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=TA2MUN-15
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[04:46] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03U3B-25 after 0314 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=U3B-25
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[05:34] <Lahti> fullhd hunting https://tracker.sondehub.org/?sondehub=1#!mt=roadmap&mz=8&qm=All&mc=60.1255,25.07325&f=RS_M10-T-810-2-11739&q=RS_M10-T-810-2-11739
[05:41] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BSS20 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BSS20
[05:45] <Lahti> fullhd https://aijaa.com/AxEZo2
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[06:41] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03U3S32 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=U3S32
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[08:20] <Peter_> Hi. I am a teacher at a Primary School in East London and we are aiming to launch a weather balloon with a small payload including a camera towards the end of July. We are currently researching the project and are looking for some advice. Particularly about the best way to track and relocate our payload and also about which type/size of balloon we will need. Any help with our project would be much appreciated.
[08:27] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VK5ST_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VK5ST_chase
[08:41] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03MotoG5_Chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=MotoG5_Chase
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[08:59] <edmoore> Peter_: standby
[09:00] <edmoore> daveake: was going to give Peter_ a link to your guide but your site looks like it need a touch of sysadmin?
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[09:00] <daveake> I was indeed and am about to call someone ....
[09:01] <daveake> Clearly the auto updates last night broke it
[09:06] <daveake> Fixed
[09:06] <daveake> Peter_ Have a read of http://www.daveakerman.com/?p=1732
[09:07] <daveake> Excellent support from Krystal "You can update PHP in cpanel, but just hold on I'll do it for you"
[09:08] <edmoore> He left
[09:08] <daveake> Such patience
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[10:41] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03LoraBERKO - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=LoraBERKO
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[11:05] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03MJS01 after 034 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=MJS01
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[11:24] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BERKOHAB after 0321 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BERKOHAB
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[11:42] <Berko_> Hello, we are Berko School and we are going to send up a payload at 1 o'clock
[11:44] <PE2BZ> Hi.
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[11:44] <PE2BZ> There´s no announcement on the map, any payload info would help to reach listeners
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[11:46] <Berko> we are just creating a flight dock and are about to start transmiting
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[11:47] <PE2BZ> A bit short term ? But you are on the map, so you know the payload parameters. Info in the calendar from the payload can easily take 12 - 24 hours to appear
[11:48] <daveake> No point doing a flight doc now
[11:48] <daveake> I guess nobody reads the docs
[11:49] <PE2BZ> so true :-(
[11:54] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Tablet_Chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Tablet_Chase
[12:07] <Darkside> i wont bother approving it then
[12:07] <Darkside> no logging for them
[12:10] <Lahti> Darkside: Did you notice M10 hunted :) https://tracker.sondehub.org/?sondehub=1#!mt=osm&mz=8&qm=All&mc=60.23152,25.08684&f=RS_M10-T-810-2-11739&q=RS_M10-T-810-2-11739
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[12:23] <Darkside> Lahti: no, i dont pay that much attention
[12:25] <Darkside> Lahti: maybe you should have turned it off after recovering it!
[12:27] <Lahti> Darkside: is just fun to shave the sonde and station online :D
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[12:30] <Darkside> F5MVO: did you see my email about the imet station_code setting?
[12:30] <F5MVO> YES
[12:30] <Darkside> cool
[12:30] <F5MVO> i change back to sonde
[12:30] <Darkside> thanks
[12:31] <Darkside> still wish there was a better way of identifying imet sondes... but there isn't.
[12:31] <F5MVO> i have error to upload
[12:31] <Darkside> and i think the same is the case for the C50 sondes too, but I can't be sure
[12:32] <F5MVO> 2019-05-08 14:30:10,847 ERROR:Habitat - Upload Failed: HTTPSConnectionPool(host='1i5x18pybb.execute-api.us-east-1.amazonaws.com', port=443): Read timed out. (read timeout=10)
[12:32] <Darkside> mwheeler: ^
[12:32] <Darkside> is this happening all the time, or just occasionally?
[12:32] <Darkside> because things seem to be back to normal now
[12:32] <F5MVO> no Imet new sonde for the moment
[12:32] <F5MVO> no every day now
[12:33] <Darkside> with every single upload?
[12:33] <Darkside> or just occasionally
[12:33] <F5MVO> no every day now, error to upload
[12:33] <Darkside> not sure why its showing an amazonaws hostname htere..
[12:34] <F5MVO> altitude map now 15600m et real 22000m
[12:34] <F5MVO> altitude map now 15600m and real 22000m, and increase
[12:35] <Darkside> which sonde?
[12:36] <Darkside> oh, the M10
[12:36] <F5MVO> http://sondehub.org/M10-T-807-2-10942
[12:38] <F5MVO> in local M10 UPDATE EACH 5 SECONDES AND RS41 EACH SECONDES ?
[12:39] <Darkside> sounds about right
[12:39] <Darkside> RS41 sends packets every second, M10 is a bit irregular
[12:39] <F5MVO> OK
[12:40] <Darkside> i thought it was still about once per second, but its also running at a higher baud rate, and may have more dropped packet
[12:40] <mwheeler> Darkside: amazon hostname is normal
[12:40] <Darkside> mmk
[12:40] <Darkside> interesting that i can't curl tracker.sondehub.org
[12:40] <Darkside> it returns a 302
[12:41] <F5MVO> Thanks for your good job !
[12:41] <mwheeler> Darkside: yup redirect to https
[12:41] <Darkside> hrm i was using https
[12:41] <mwheeler> F5MVO: do you get it once a day? or for every packet?
[12:42] <Darkside> curl -v https://tracker.sondehub.org/
[12:42] <mwheeler> yup, it'll redirect for the filters
[12:42] <F5MVO> every day now, but not each packet
[12:43] <mwheeler> I wonder if it's time out creating the payload doc
[12:43] <Darkside> hmm
[12:43] <Darkside> lemme check where in the upload code that error comes from
[12:44] <Darkside> nah
[12:44] <Darkside> thats during telemetry upload
[12:44] <F5MVO> the update telemetry start each 15 secondes and increase until more 3mn and after i have error to upload
[12:44] <Darkside> https://github.com/projecthorus/radiosonde_auto_rx/blob/master/auto_rx/autorx/habitat.py#L546
[12:46] <Darkside> the timeout is set to 10 seconds... which should be enough
[12:46] <mwheeler> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/OcmOCBvi/image.png
[12:47] <Darkside> interesting
[12:47] <Darkside> i am actually seeing those errors too
[12:47] <F5MVO> the problem start after a maintenance server i thinh
[12:47] <F5MVO> the problem start after a maintenance server i think
[12:47] <Darkside> quite often actually
[12:48] <Darkside> mwheeler: check your logs
[12:49] <mwheeler> most actually go through, the timeout just happens earlier
[12:49] <Darkside> cat /var/log/syslog | grep "Upload Failed"
[12:49] <Darkside> hm
[12:49] <Darkside> odd
[12:49] <Darkside> well, nothing we can do about it
[12:53] <F5MVO> # 409 = Upload conflict (server busy). Sleep for a moment, then retry
[12:54] <Darkside> that's a different error
[12:54] <Darkside> occurs in a very specific scenario, likely not the case here
[12:55] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PISKY - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PISKY
[12:57] <mwheeler> yeah, I need to finish writing the replacement for the importer so I get proper analytics
[13:02] <F5MVO> the differenceaproach now 9000m
[13:03] <Darkside> F5MVO: what is your habitat update rate set tp?
[13:03] <Darkside> the default 30 seconds?
[13:03] <F5MVO> 15 by default ?
[13:06] <F5MVO> i change for 30
[13:08] <F5MVO> i restart with 30
[13:08] <Darkside> the default is 30 seconds
[13:08] <F5MVO> ok sorry
[13:10] <Darkside> it probably won't solve the problem though
[13:12] <F5MVO> i lookat tomorrow
[13:39] <PB0AHX-Herman> !flights
[13:39] <SpacenearUS> 03PB0AHX-Herman: There are no flights currently :(
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[13:55] <mwheeler> oops broke the gateway :P
[13:55] <Berko> Is anyone else having problems with HabHub, with not being able to send information to the server?
[13:56] <mwheeler> Berko: for sondes ?
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[13:56] <Berko> WE re
[13:57] <Berko> we are getting packets of info through but they are not going on the map
[13:58] <PE2BZ> map is delayed by about 30 km altitude, half an houre.
[13:58] <PE2BZ> SSDV images appear to be live
[13:58] <Berko> we are getting lora and rtty telemetry but no uploads onto habhub
[13:58] <Berko> yes ssdv is working
[13:59] <PE2BZ> All should appear on the map but with delay
[14:00] <PE2BZ> About all flights last week got on the map with delay, the server is running ¨a quite heavy task¨I heared
[14:03] <Berko> ok we are going to launch in 5 mins
[14:03] <PE2BZ> which lora mode and frequency ?
[14:04] <Berko> LoRa 434.550 mode 1
[14:05] <PE2BZ> thanks!
[14:05] <Berko> thank you
[14:05] <Berko> about to launch
[14:05] <PE2BZ> Good luck!
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[14:15] <Berko> We have lift off
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[14:31] <F5MVO> loraBerko battery problem ?
[14:33] <Berko> we're not receiving LoraBERKO telemetry anymore
[14:33] <Berko> Is anyone receiving LoraBERKO or BERKOHAB? We've lost signal
[14:35] <Berko> it went through a massive raincloud about 2 mins after launch
[14:35] <Berko> but the payload is waterproof
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[14:36] <Berko> BERKOHAB
[14:36] <dbrooke> I did see a signal initially, though I don't have a RTTY decoder, but it's no longer there
[14:37] <PE2BZ> I see no traces on the websdr waterfall in the UK either
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[14:37] <dbrooke> On LoRa I was getting some CRC errors, which might suggest a weak signal, but those have also stopped now
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[14:38] <PE2BZ> Berko, 1 or 2 power sources for the 2 trackers?
[14:38] <SA6BSS-Mike> freq to listen for?
[14:38] <PE2BZ> 1 or 2 antenna´s ?
[14:38] <PE2BZ> 434.500 rtty
[14:38] <SA6BSS-Mike> ok
[14:38] <PE2BZ> 434.550 LoRa
[14:38] <Berko> Lora frequency is 434.550
[14:39] <Berko> RTTY on 434.500
[14:39] <PE2BZ> but all only just left the ground above the UK
[14:40] <PE2BZ> Berko, any answers to my questions about battery and antenna?
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[14:40] <Berko> Sorry, 1 battery source and antenna
[14:40] <Berko> one antenna each for LoRa and RTTY
[14:40] <Berko> so two in total
[14:42] <F5MVO> the payload is little ?
[14:43] <PE2BZ> Sorry for you but I think it´s game over.
[14:43] <Berko> 10*10*20 cm
[14:43] <Berko> starting to have similar thoughts
[14:43] <PE2BZ> Did you do any testing on the payload transmitter for distance ?
[14:44] <PE2BZ> Common problems are wrong type of connector (Wifi style for the antenna and normal SMA on the payload)
[14:44] <Berko> about 2km testing
[14:44] <F5MVO> when its possible it just add radiosonde
[14:44] <PE2BZ> You´re on the map again!
[14:45] <PE2BZ> Loraberko by G8KNN
[14:45] <Berko> Wow!
[14:45] <F5MVO> good its come back
[14:46] <G8KNN> It's very weak here
[14:46] <G8KNN> but getting the odd packet or two
[14:47] <PE2BZ> Is the frequency close to 434.550 ?
[14:47] <G8KNN> 434.552
[14:47] <PE2BZ> thanks!
[14:47] <Berko> is it worth heading to the landing locaation?
[14:47] <Berko> we are hoping to get the paylad back
[14:48] <Berko> it's got our geiger counter experiment on it
[14:48] <PE2BZ> If the results on the map match your ascend rate calculations it might have a chance
[14:49] <Berko> we still can't get any signal from our chase car
[14:49] <PE2BZ> Second receiver from the Netherlands
[14:50] <PE2BZ> And you have no experience with direction finding / fox hunting for transmitters ?
[14:51] <Berko> we have a yagi
[14:51] <Berko> and an ICOM radio
[14:51] <Berko> and our lora receiver gateway
[14:51] <PE2BZ> And you know how the LoRa signal should sound on that radio ?
[14:51] <PE2BZ> Mode1. 21 kHz wide, FM intermitting ?
[14:52] <Berko> we heard how it sounds when we tested it
[14:53] <PE2BZ> Then I should head towards the expected landing spot. With mobile internet connection to keep an eye on the map and see what happens over there
[14:53] <PE2BZ> And I would suggest to prepare your next flight a bit better with a valuable payload like this....
[14:53] <Berko> thank you
[14:54] <Berko> we have been preparing since december
[14:54] <PE2BZ> And no flight doc till today ? How would anyone know that / what you are flying ?
[14:55] <dbrooke> The current prediction is for between me and KNN so if it keeps transmitting you at least have a chance of one of us receiving it again
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[15:05] <Berko> thanks G8KNN!
[15:06] <G8KNN> no problem!
[15:06] <G8KNN> signal is improving, but might loose it as elevation will get very high for my antenna
[15:08] <Berko> and PETANS-LORA
[15:08] <Berko> you are life savers
[15:08] <Berko> thank you
[15:09] <PE2BZ> PE1ANS reports 434.544 as best frequency. G8KNN does it drift down or not that you notice ?
[15:10] <G8KNN> my LORA Rx reporting 434.552 still
[15:10] <PE2BZ> rgr
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[15:16] <g8fjg> what mode lora?
[15:16] <PE2BZ> mode 1
[15:16] <g8fjg> ta
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[15:21] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03MWH01 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=MWH01
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[15:22] <Berko> our internet keeps dropping out. We are chasing LoraBERKO across the countryside
[15:22] <PE2BZ> wich you all the luck !
[15:23] <PE2BZ> wich ? wish ;-)
[15:23] <Berko> thanks. we'll need it
[15:30] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Mystery_Machine_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Mystery_Machine_chase
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[15:39] <Berko> the sun looks nice in the SSDV images
[15:41] <chris_99> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ambasat/ambasat-1-an-educational-space-satellite-kit
[15:41] <chris_99> i wonder if you're allowed to bolt on other sensors heh
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[15:52] <fsphil> ooh pics
[15:53] <fsphil> could do with a few more ground stations
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[16:22] <Berko> BURST!
[16:46] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RISHCS - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RISHCS
[16:48] <PE2BZ> Hope you pick up the signal again
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[17:07] <PE2BZ> chris_99, it looks tempting :-)
[17:08] <chris_99> yeah
[17:08] <chris_99> i'm thinking of doing it with a friend possibly
[17:08] <chris_99> it seems you can add your own sensor too
[17:09] <PE2BZ> It will HAB too ;-)
[17:09] <PE2BZ> Solar powered with an UV sensor...
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[17:17] <chris_99> i'm just wondering about the panels, what happens if the board tumbles a bit, so the panels are facing the wrong way? (i'm not sure how likely that would be)
[17:19] <PE2BZ> No idea. It will pick up sunlight again I guess ? The thing I am wondering, I see no GPS, so how would you know where your payload is hanging around ?
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[17:20] <chris_99> oh yeah
[17:20] <chris_99> good point about the gps
[17:21] <PE2BZ> The berko payload is homing to the chase car :-)
[17:21] <PE2BZ> chris_99, but you can´t ask questions unless you´re a backer.... Should I sponsor them for coffee?
[17:21] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03CALLSIGN123_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CALLSIGN123_chase
[17:22] <PE2BZ> Berko, congratulations !
[17:23] <chris_99> " Low Earth Orbit (LEO) temperatures range from 170°C to 123°C so your satellite will experience these ranges. However, it will be spinning and in and out of sunlight so this will even out the heat distribution to a functioning level, except when in darkness." that's a pretty extreme temp range
[17:25] <PE2BZ> And there is no launch date set, it could take 2 to 3 years before the payload can be placed I think.
[17:25] <PE2BZ> But still, nice idea, and with GPS and on a hab ?
[17:26] <PE2BZ> and 58 days to go.....
[17:26] <PE2BZ> Can not buy them coffee yet, have to find a cvc code, where is my wallet....
[17:26] <chris_99> i was searching for a launch date too. nothing stopping you adding a gps i guess, if it fits the solar power output?
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[17:27] <PE2BZ> That should be no problem. How is the GPS satellite reception in LEO ?
[17:27] <chris_99> oh might there be a problem here
[17:27] <chris_99> as it's very high
[17:27] <chris_99> and very fast
[17:27] <chris_99> the chips might not allow it?
[17:27] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PU2YPP_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PU2YPP_chase
[17:29] <PE2BZ> It´s Fligth Mode ++
[17:29] <PE2BZ> I did ask PA3WEG if that could work. He has built a satellite or 2
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[17:38] <BERKO> It came back in one peice
[17:38] <BERKO> miraculously
[17:38] <BERKO> so thanks to all trackers
[17:39] <PE2BZ> Congrats! Hope you find out why RTTY failed and you have usefull data from the flight!
[17:40] <BERKO> Yes, going to shore up in a mcdonalds now and go over our SDs
[17:40] <BERKO> Had a few experiments aboard, so should have some interesting data
[17:40] <BERKO> Thanks again!
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[18:31] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03U3B-22 after 0313 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=U3B-22
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[21:07] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KF5PGW-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KF5PGW-11
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[23:41] <hyde00001> !flights
[23:41] <SpacenearUS> 03hyde00001: There are no flights currently :(
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