highaltitude.log.20190425

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[01:09] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VK5QI-9_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VK5QI-9_chase
[02:29] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VK5TRM-9_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VK5TRM-9_chase
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[06:30] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03F6KFI-11 after 0316 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=F6KFI-11
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[09:17] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03U3B-25 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=U3B-25
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[09:41] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03TA9OHC-11 after 0314 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=TA9OHC-11
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[10:20] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VK5QI_TESTING_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VK5QI_TESTING_chase
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[10:51] <LIERO> Hello
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[10:58] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03CS5PBA-11 after 0317 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CS5PBA-11
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[11:08] Action: PE2BZ is waiting for CHANGEME to appear on the map :-)
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[11:36] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03VORTEX1 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VORTEX1
[12:03] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03U3S32 after 0316 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=U3S32
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[12:32] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03U3B-22 after 0318 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=U3B-22
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[12:49] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SantaFe_Chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SantaFe_Chase
[13:04] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PUT2019 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PUT2019
[13:07] Nick change: qyx_ -> qyx
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[13:28] <LIERO> https://i.imgur.com/QH1HXl6.jpg
[13:28] <LIERO> this size cell is suitable for pico flights?
[13:29] <PE2BZ> 52 x 26 mm approx?
[13:30] <LIERO> 52 x 19 mm
[13:30] <PE2BZ> I estimate them to give 170 mA
[13:30] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03F6KFI-11 after 037 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=F6KFI-11
[13:31] <PE2BZ> 52 x 26 is about 250 mA
[13:31] <PE2BZ> 52 x 52 about 500 mA
[13:31] <PE2BZ> so these should power a pico :-)
[13:38] <LIERO> ty, they are so tiny..
[13:39] <PE2BZ> You did order some spare, didn´t you ?
[13:40] <LIERO> 100pcs
[13:40] <PE2BZ> That should do :-)
[13:40] <PE2BZ> Ever soldered solar panels before ?
[13:40] <LIERO> no
[13:40] <LIERO> i´ve been told it´s tricky - iron shouldn´t be too hot
[13:41] <PE2BZ> Find yourself a firm piece of foam to put them on when soldering. If it´s on a hard surface and you press the point of the iron a bit you have multiple smaller panels
[13:41] <PE2BZ> I solder with Weller at 370 degrees C
[13:41] <LIERO> haha, okay
[13:42] <PE2BZ> for the 52 x 52 and 26 mm
[13:44] <LIERO> holidays starting from tomorrow, so I can work on WSPR beacon
[13:44] <PE2BZ> Add a bit flux to the panel, it dries tranparant and I found no negative results in the current delivered with the flux on the panel
[13:45] <PE2BZ> If you need a sturdy construction you can use 0.8 mm wire, massive core. I have seen copper foil being used with good results also.
[13:46] <PE2BZ> Don´t get mad when you break one or two. It´s part of the game.
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[13:47] <LIERO> I understand
[13:55] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KALI05-12 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KALI05-12
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[14:12] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SSTAR0304 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SSTAR0304
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[15:10] <olejl77> Hi, what does it take in order to show our PITS on the habhub webpage? We have created a payload document (FORSKERN) and it seems to be parsed OK on http://habitat.habhub.org/logtail/
[15:14] <PE2BZ> When was the last upload ?
[15:14] <PE2BZ> what is the callsign of the payload ?
[15:15] <olejl77> The last upload was around 5 minutes ago. The callsign is FORSKERN
[15:15] <PE2BZ> Usually if the payload doc is ready AND the format is right it should appear on the map.
[15:15] <olejl77> it says it was parsed ok
[15:16] <PE2BZ> We could argue about that ;-)
[15:16] <PE2BZ> There are a lot op payloads in the logtail and the ¨parsed ok¨ message could belong to another payload?
[15:17] <PE2BZ> Did you have GPS fix / lock by the way ?
[15:17] <olejl77> I found my upload here: http://habitat.habhub.org/logtail/: [2019-04-25 15:01:30,485] INFO habitat.parser MainThread: UKHAS parsed data from FORSKERN successfully
[15:17] <PE2BZ> with zero´s in the GPS field you do not appear on the map also
[15:18] <olejl77> I have a lock: https://pastebin.com/3xxUUfY2
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[15:20] <PE2BZ> Have to disappoint you a bit:
[15:20] <PE2BZ> <PE2BZ> testing 6e79a3b0bee71c67ffb576ec00b16859
[15:20] <PE2BZ> <SpacenearUS> Payload config FORSKERN (6859)
[15:20] <PE2BZ> <SpacenearUS> Callsign(s): FORSKERN
[15:20] <PE2BZ> <SpacenearUS> Transmission #0: Primary - 434.25 MHz USB RTTY 300/600Hz ASCII-8 none 2
[15:20] <PE2BZ> <SpacenearUS> Last parsed: never
[15:20] <craag> Your payload doc has 'invalid_always' set
[15:21] <craag> I can't remember how that gets set, but you need to remove it.
[15:21] <PE2BZ> that´s in the part what the GPS sends when there is no lock.
[15:21] <PE2BZ> Change that to zero´s and you should be ok
[15:22] <PE2BZ> good catch craag !
[15:22] <craag> Ideally you want something in there that looks at the number of satellites, and sets lock status off that
[15:22] <craag> setting location to zeroes is not a good idea, you want to keep sending the last good fix position
[15:23] <olejl77> craag PE2BZ: thanks for helping, but how do I change that to zero? Wi are using Pi in the sky kit
[15:23] <PE2BZ> What does the Pi transmit for location as long as it has no GPS lock ? I think it does not transmit at all without GPS lock if I am right ?
[15:24] <olejl77> the location we are uploading is correct
[15:25] <PE2BZ> I know, but when creating the payload doc a magical question appeared ¨what is transmitted when there is no gps lock¨ and somehow you set it that all gps values are invalid, even the valid ones.
[15:25] <craag> olejl77: Are you still uploading?
[15:26] <olejl77> ok, I see. I'll try to fix that then
[15:26] <olejl77> craag: no, had to switch off for a few minutes
[15:26] <craag> I've just removed the filter, so try that, your new payload doc id is: b69accb50873e96802d7879cb6b00f40
[15:28] <olejl77> craag ok thanks a lot, I will test it again in 10 minutes :)
[15:30] <olejl77> for some reason, I can see that there are now 4 documents all with FORSKERN as callsign. Do I need to delete the redundant ones?
[15:30] <craag> No, the system makes two decisions:
[15:31] <craag> First if there is an active approved flight doc, it'll use the payload doc referenced in the flight doc.
[15:31] <craag> Second (if no active flight doc), it'll use the most recently created payload doc
[15:32] <craag> So no reason (and no way!) to delete old ones :)
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[15:51] <daveake> Weeeelll... it'd be nice to be able to delete old ones that aren't needed anymore, if only to reduce the clutter when selecting the right payload doc !
[15:56] <olejl77> Now we are up and running again, but _fix_invalid is still true
[15:57] <craag> hmm isn't using that payload doc.
[15:58] <olejl77> there is something strange regarding the timestamp of the different documents ...
[15:58] <craag> apparently your payload docs have been created in the future !!!
[15:58] <craag> yep :P
[15:58] <craag> even with the tx offset
[15:58] <craag> *tz
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[15:59] <craag> is the time on your PC correct?
[15:59] <craag> (it really shouldn't be using client browser time....)
[15:59] <olejl77> 17:59 now so yes
[16:00] <SA6BSS-Mike> utc?
[16:01] <SA6BSS-Mike> payload conf page allways runns in utc, could possebly explain the "future" timestamp
[16:01] <craag> hmm sounds like a bug
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[16:01] <olejl77> +2
[16:02] <craag> olejl77: in genpayload, select the doc I created, scroll down and just click save
[16:02] <craag> then you might throw it far enough into the future for it to work
[16:02] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03FORSKERN - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=FORSKERN
[16:02] <craag> yay
[16:03] <olejl77> yay :)
[16:03] <olejl77> thanks for your help guys
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[16:29] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03OLEJL_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=OLEJL_chase
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[17:19] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Magnus_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Magnus_chase
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[17:20] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Hotel_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Hotel_chase
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[17:40] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Jensern_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Jensern_chase
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[18:06] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BSS20 after 0317 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BSS20
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[18:18] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SSTAR0284 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SSTAR0284
[18:19] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SSTAR0290 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SSTAR0290
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[18:28] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KM6SDO-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KM6SDO-11
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[20:56] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KK6UUQ-5 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KK6UUQ-5
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[23:14] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SP5YAM - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP5YAM
[23:17] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03U3B-25 after 0314 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=U3B-25
[23:21] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SP5WWL - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP5WWL
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