highaltitude.log.20190418

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[00:04] <w5kub> looking for balloon experts here.
[00:04] <w5kub> i have a balloon w5kub-1 up but it appears to take a track where there are no aprs
[00:04] <w5kub> we should be hitting the west coast of Africa about now
[00:05] <w5kub> Can anyone tell me if there are any tracking possibilities on aprs as we go across Africa. Looks like it should be near Iran or Afghanistan by april 19th at 1900 utc
[00:06] <w5kub> based on predictions any ideas where i might get the first track?
[00:08] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KE5AIV-1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KE5AIV-1
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[00:11] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KJ4TDM-11 after 033 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KJ4TDM-11
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[00:17] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Liela_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Liela_chase
[00:21] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KG7VFC-11 after 0318 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KG7VFC-11
[00:50] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VK5ST_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VK5ST_chase
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[01:35] <KN4CZZ> Can anyone offer an assist with getting APRS running on the Pi In The Sky system?
[01:35] <KN4CZZ> RTTY and LoRa work flawlessly
[01:36] <KN4CZZ> I think my pinky.txt file must not be set up properly for APRS
[01:37] <KN4CZZ> I'm receiving and able to decode packets at the correct frequency (144.390 MHz), but the latitude/longitude info is not showing up
[01:38] <KN4CZZ> I'm not showing up on aprs.fi either
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[01:51] <Ian_> That would be /boot/pisky.txt the manual page 39 I believe.
[01:51] <Ian_> under configuration
[01:53] <Ian_> KN4CZZ You did remove the '#' from the start of the callsign field?
[01:56] <Ian_> You say that you are receiving packets, from your PiSky system? if so do they look convincing?
[01:56] <Ian_> Manual page 40, did you read the item under the title 'Important' ?
[02:03] <Ian_> I'm off to bed, it's 0258 here local and I need my beauty sleep. If you still have a problem when the UK wake up at around 0700Z go to #pits and ping Dave there or follow the instructions and email. My copy of the manual is about six months old. 73 and good luck.
[02:03] <SpacenearUS> 03Ian_: Here you go: 12https://ukhas.org.uk/spacenearus_irc_bot
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[03:14] <doug_> hello all
[03:14] <doug_> a question
[03:15] <doug_> I'm working on a WSPR transmitter, and I'm doing decoding using the WSJT-X program (http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/k1jt/wsjtx.html)
[03:15] <doug_> my question is about the waterfall view in the program
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[03:15] <doug_> if anyone can help me understand what the meaning of the horizontal axis on the waterfall view is, I'd appreciate it
[03:16] <doug_> I've read the user guide and I can't figure it out (http://www.physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/wsjtx-doc/wsjtx-main-1.7.0.html#BAND_SETTINGS)
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[03:17] <doug_> in short, I'm familiar with FFT, and using SDR#, I am familiar with what I'm seeing on the horizontal axis, being frequency distribution
[03:18] <doug_> by contrast, the WSJT-X program specifies a given frequency, eg 14.095600 MHz
[03:19] <doug_> and then on the waterfall x axis has values from 1000-2500 Hz (not MHz or anything)
[03:19] <doug_> I'm confused about what the meaning of this is
[03:19] <doug_> though clearly it's doing something similar to a FFT to the incoming signal
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[05:30] <SA6BSS-Mike> doug_:20m/14MHZ is dial on the radio 14.095600 and then you are listening at 14.097000 - 14.097200 which is the audio ofset from the dial freq
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[05:31] <SA6BSS-Mike> which is 1400-1600hz up
[05:32] <SA6BSS-Mike> even audio have frequncy you have to take into account
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[06:28] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03GLAUB40 after 0313 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=GLAUB40
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[06:55] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BSS20 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BSS20
[07:08] <SA6BSS-Mike> BSS20 is up, wspr on 14Mhz
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[09:08] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Skymax2_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Skymax2_chase
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[09:32] <PB0AHX-Herman> !flights
[09:32] <SpacenearUS> 03PB0AHX-Herman: There are no flights currently :(
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[10:15] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Skymax_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Skymax_chase
[10:31] <FuzzyLemon> Hi we had a problem with the RTTY signal in our last flight (VLTHAB) and its occurring again during bench test of our new PITS board
[10:32] <daveake> What's happening ?
[10:32] <FuzzyLemon> The waterfall is just a single frequency
[10:32] <FuzzyLemon> we are not getting the 'space' and 'mark' frequencies
[10:32] <daveake> From startup?
[10:32] <FuzzyLemon> the output is just the tuning frequency
[10:33] <FuzzyLemon> yes from startup
[10:33] <FuzzyLemon> Lora is working fine
[10:33] <daveake> Which model Pi ?
[10:33] <daveake> ok ta
[10:33] <FuzzyLemon> 3B+
[10:33] <daveake> OK have you don the serial port things to disable bluetooth ?
[10:33] <FuzzyLemon> bluetooth is disabled
[10:34] <daveake> And serial port is enabled with serial login disabled ?
[10:35] <FuzzyLemon> it was weird with the VLTHAB flight as it was working perfectly and then about 4mins after launch it started malfunctioning
[10:35] <daveake> Yeah that's not going to be the same thing
[10:36] <daveake> Do you have another, lesser, Pi to check with ?
[10:37] <daveake> The RTTY is very simply done through the serial port; with the tracker program running (which it is for LoRa to work) it can only be a serial port or MTX2 issue
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[10:38] <FuzzyLemon> ok i'll check the serial port is enabled and seriall login is disabled
[10:39] <FuzzyLemon> we don;t have a lesser Pi
[10:40] <daveake> Yeah do that. We've had a couple of MTX2 fails picked up in our testing.
[10:47] <FuzzyLemon> Yes! Checked all the things you said and now it works perfectly!
[10:48] <FuzzyLemon> Thank you!
[10:48] <daveake> Excellent :)
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[10:50] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KN4CZZ-LoRa after 0314 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KN4CZZ-LoRa
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[11:17] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03U3B-25 after 0314 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=U3B-25
[11:17] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BUZZ - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BUZZ
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[11:49] <TT7> w5kub: there aren't any APRS igates in Africa. at least not according to aprs.fi
[11:49] <TT7> I made a rough map of igates around the world that were active in February 2019
[11:49] <TT7> https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-9tEiz4x7zZE/XGRTkVry1iI/AAAAAAAAFIc/xjQuSQifqss2Acz8QDAlaYV3FSljftFYACLcBGAs/s1600/world%2Bmap%2Baprs%2Bfreq%2B01.png
[11:51] <TT7> not all the points on the map are guaranteed. colors signify different frequencies
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[11:54] <TT7> since your balloon went down to Africa, I'd expect it to show up in China or Japan.. maybe Thailand if it takes the southern route
[11:54] <TT7> you can check the wind patterns here for example: https://www.windy.com/?250h,30.676,37.354,3
[11:56] <TT7> all that provided the tracker is programmed to transmit on the right frequencies
[12:03] <TT7> and I am not certain about the frequency for the two igates in Quatar and UAE which could be on your balloon's route
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[12:22] <YO3ICT> Hi TT7. Just came across your superpressure jupyter project.
[12:23] <YO3ICT> Looks very useful. What input data needs to be changed to simulate 36 inch clear type balloons?
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[12:32] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KC1EAI - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KC1EAI
[12:35] <TT7> YO3ICT: the modelTrajectory() function takes in an estimate of the balloon's inner volume in m3, mass of the envelope in kg, mass of the payload in kg, and you can vary the free lift in kg to get an appropriate ascent speed
[12:36] <TT7> look up the definition of the function to know which is which
[12:37] <TT7> the most problematic is the balloon's inner volume estimate
[12:39] <TT7> I think 0.1m3 is typically used for a 36" qualatex
[12:39] <YO3ICT> What about the gamma?
[12:41] <TT7> that is a factor that multiplies the volume if you want to model what happens if the balloon is stratched.. you can leave it at 1.0
[12:42] <YO3ICT> So in the case of pre-stretching, I should run the model with gamma = 1 and the new, slightly bigger volume, right?
[12:45] <TT7> if you know what the inner volume is, you can enter the value in 'bVolume' and leave gamma at 1.0... if you want to see what effect will stretching the 0.1m3 envelope by a factor of 1.3 have, enter 'bVolume' 0.1 and gamma 1.3
[12:47] <TT7> gamma is just a factor that multiplies bVolume... I may have made it unnecessarily complicated
[12:51] <YO3ICT> Almost impossible to know the pre-streatched volume.
[12:54] <TT7> yep, I made a few bold estimates that were quite wrong when I launched my TT7F balloons
[13:42] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KD0ZTV-3 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD0ZTV-3
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[14:37] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03NSLV_MSAT - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=NSLV_MSAT
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[14:45] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03ON2GA-M_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ON2GA-M_chase
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[18:05] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KK6UUQ-4 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KK6UUQ-4
[18:21] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PITS00 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PITS00
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[21:35] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03N4XWC-1 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1
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[22:34] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KJ4TDM-11 after 0321 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KJ4TDM-11
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[23:25] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VK5QI-9_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VK5QI-9_chase
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