highaltitude.log.20190214

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[00:19] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VK5NE_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VK5NE_chase
[00:26] <Elwell> damn. Guess my shonky antenna + connector bodge still isn't effective (dug out my 2/70cm whip and used a paperclip to go from sma->belling lee))
[00:29] <Elwell> https://i.imgur.com/hNHyHCc.png
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[07:23] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 038952829519_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=8952829519_chase
[07:56] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03U3S28 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=U3S28
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[08:37] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03stm32_polm - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=stm32_polm
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[09:46] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SITS-6 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SITS-6
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[10:38] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SITS-4 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SITS-4
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[10:55] <PE2BZ> Hi, would anyone know a way to have the sequence number as transmitted by a payload as ¨value¨ in the info on the tracker page ?
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[12:03] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03ECHO1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ECHO1
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[12:06] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03ECHO2 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ECHO2
[12:07] <PE2BZ> Do I hear an Echo or 2 ?
[12:08] <fsphil> Echo or 2?
[12:09] <daveake> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/6TB9d7BP/image.png
[12:09] <daveake> So, yes ... :)
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[12:10] <Bozzy> Anyone else having problems with fldigi? Just keeps locking up on me
[12:12] <fsphil> not me. but I'm still running a very old version of it, so not much help
[12:13] Action: PE2BZ hears a repeated Echo or 2
[12:14] <YO3ICT> Yes. It hangs quite often. 3.21.50 + Win 10
[12:15] <PE2BZ> Bozzy every now and then here, sometimes it gets alive after being left alone for a minute but sometimes I have to kill it. It sends reports to Microsoft but Bill does not have time to fix it ?
[12:16] <PE2BZ> Same version as YO3ICT good morning Eduard :-)
[12:17] <YO3ICT> Good afternoon
[12:17] <Bozzy> Same version here, behaving now, not had this before
[12:17] <PE2BZ> But there are days that I can run 3 instances, one with CAT control to the rig and 2 connected to virtual audio without problems.
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[12:27] <dbrooke> due to a hardware problem with my previous dl-fldigi setup I recently set up a Pi 3B+ with the raspbian packaged version 3.23.12 and that has locked up a few times
[12:27] <dbrooke> on a couples of occasions it consumed all the memory and was killed
[12:28] <Bozzy> Working now with a poor signal from SITS4, despite only about 50 miles from me
[12:28] <dbrooke> if it runs for more than a minute or so it seems to stay running, with the occasional pause in updating the display, though I am viewing over VNC which may not help
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[12:38] <PE2BZ> So the freeze in display update happens also in the Linux version ?
[12:51] <PE2BZ> Let me try my sequence question one more time before I drop it in the ukhas groups.... For my solar tracker I would like to have the sequence number displayed on the tracker map, to see when it gets received again how long it has been transmitting. Would anyone know if that´s possible in the payload configuration ?
[12:59] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03STUDY - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=STUDY
[13:20] <dbrooke> the older version of dl-fldigi which I ran on the previous hardware (Odroid C1 with Debian) didn't exhibit any pausing or crashing but as I'd also changed everything else I wasn't sure of the cause
[13:22] <dbrooke> I suspect it would require changes to habhub/habitat to display the sequence number, could you send it again in another field which would be displayed?
[13:35] <PE2BZ> dbrooke that´s a good idea ! We take that as solution ;-)
[13:35] <dbrooke> a bit inefficient, but if it works ...
[13:36] <PE2BZ> On solar I do not mind a bit longer string....
[13:38] <dbrooke> the sequence number is stored in the database anyway, it's just not presented on the tracker map
[13:39] <dbrooke> so a telemetry export would still show up any restarts
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[14:50] <PE2BZ> Study went wrong ?
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[15:09] <PE2BZ> !dial STUDY
[15:10] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Latest dials for 03STUDY EPSOM 10(e159): 03434.2748 MHz
[15:14] <dbrooke> 400Hz shift
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[16:30] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YO3ICT after 0315 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YO3ICT
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[17:04] <Bozzy> Finally getting greens here
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[18:00] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 0365666_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=65666_chase
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[18:23] <Viproz> Hey guys, I'm starting to get set up again so I'm looking at what I should order to get started in HAB, I'm getting more and more interested in pico balloons (partly because I discovered that it was legal to send one without any declaration) but I don't really know id the barrier to entry is pretty high or if getting something off and working doesn't take too long (less than 2 month) ?
[18:23] <Viproz> PE2BZ, I know you've been sending a few of those ?
[18:44] <craag> building a light tracker is the main thing
[18:44] <craag> but you can build one out of an rfm69, arduino mini, and ublox board ;)
[18:45] <craag> http://www.daveakerman.com/?p=310
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[19:19] <Viproz> craag, is the rfm09 chip temperature stabilized or do we just have to track it manually to account for the drift ?
[19:20] <Viproz> rfm69* sorry
[19:27] <PE2BZ> Viproz I sent Habduino boards with chute, Stuart Robinson trackers without chute with 5 solar panels, and Pico with solar is behind my back for testing and waiting for longer sunny days
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[20:17] <craag> Viproz: it's not temperature stabilised, if you want temperature stabilised then go for ntx2b tx, bit more expensive but rock solid :)
[20:17] <craag> or you can swap the crystal, but as a beginner I'd suggest starting with off the shelf
[20:18] <craag> we used to do picos with rfm22, which were a lot worse than rfm69 :D
[20:27] <Viproz> PE2BZ, a chute sounds really heavy for this kind of HAB doesn't it ?
[20:28] <PE2BZ> If payload is less as 35 gram we are allowed without chute. If more as 35 gram we have to make descent descend speed < 5 m/s
[20:28] <PE2BZ> 2 AA batteries are 32 gram. I rest my case ;-)
[20:28] <Viproz> craag, okay yeah depending on the price I might as well throw some my way on Aliexpress but for later then, I'm guessing I'd need a hot air gun to do a proper job and I don't have one right now
[20:29] <Viproz> So would you recommend solar or AA ?
[20:31] <PE2BZ> Depends on your destination. If I aim at floating and Habduino lasts 32 hours on batteries I fly batteries. If I aim at ¨around the world¨ I fly solar
[20:32] <Viproz> Oh I should go for AA at first then, I thought it would be much shorter lifespan
[20:33] <Viproz> I'll probably buy some solar panel anyway though, the one you linked the other day were pretty cheap and looked interesting
[20:38] <PE2BZ> AA Energizer at 100 mA about 30 hours. AAA same brand about 11 hours
[20:40] <Viproz> normal AA Energizer or one specific model of Energizers ?
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[20:43] <dbrooke> http://data.energizer.com/pdfs/l91.pdf
[20:44] <dbrooke> http://data.energizer.com/pdfs/l92.pdf
[20:45] <Viproz> 18¬ for 8 L91 is their normal price ?
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[20:52] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BSS18 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BSS18
[20:54] <dbrooke> seems a liitle high, maybe 15¬, but it's a while since I bought some
[20:57] <Viproz> Okay, I found some at 1.7¬/AA buying for 20¬ it's just that I didn't expect the AAs to be one of the most expensive part :D
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[22:19] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03MUONI - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=MUONI
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[22:29] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KM4MRH-5 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KM4MRH-5
[22:31] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03WIDE2-2 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WIDE2-2
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[22:47] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KM4MRH-1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KM4MRH-1
[22:50] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03WIDE2-1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WIDE2-1
[23:09] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VK5NE_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VK5NE_chase
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