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[04:30] <mwheeler> Darkside: you can use rtl_biast to enable it
[04:30] <mwheeler> that way you don't need application support
[04:30] <Darkside> that isnt in the baselije rtlsdr tho
[04:30] <Darkside> baseline
[04:31] <Darkside> its in the rtlsdrblog repo
[04:32] <mwheeler> oh
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[04:47] <TimMc_> Are radiosondes launched near Sale, Australia for the RAAF?
[04:51] <mwheeler> not by BoM
[04:52] <mwheeler> There are some other people that launch radiosondes though, such as the snowy hydro scheme, DoD and I think some fire services
[04:53] <mwheeler> https://www.vaisala.com/sites/default/files/documents/WEA-MET-Fire-Success-Story-B211696EN-A-HiRes.pdf
[04:54] <mwheeler> From Melbourne, when our station was using a good antenna we sometimes picked up DFM-09's from the snowy cloud seeding
[05:03] <TimMc_> I was contemplating setting up a receiver in Sale or Bengworden
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[05:19] <mwheeler> It'd still be worth setting it up. A lot of the snowy sondes end up that way
[05:19] <mwheeler> It's probably not as active as Melbourne that's all
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[06:36] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BSS18 after 038 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BSS18
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[06:59] <Nilkki> Darkside: That chasemapper looks good, but that Predictor is super!
[07:03] <Darkside> glad to hear you like it!
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[09:31] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03CZ_HAB_OL - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CZ_HAB_OL
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[09:58] <Viproz> mwheeler, Darkside I just realized that I'm always running auto_rx in debug mode so I have a lot of logs, maybe over a few hours it creates too many entries in the table and consumes a lot of memory ?
[09:59] <Viproz> I'm talking about the issue of the web interface taking a lot of memory after a while and crashing
[10:11] <Darkside> Viproz: that could be part of it, yes
[10:12] <Darkside> its not really meant to be left running continuously, but i see that people do do this..
[10:13] <Viproz> We should probably remove old messages, I'm also seeing some soket IO 400 errors sometimes
[10:13] <Darkside> yeah
[10:13] <Darkside> theres many things that could be improved on the web UI...
[10:14] <Darkside> it was my first attempt at a web interface btw
[10:14] <Darkside> so probably lots of stupid things that can be fixed easilty
[10:14] <Viproz> For me I just open a tab with it and then forget about it, I just check it once in a while but I notice it often when it gets too big and slows down my computer :D
[10:15] <Viproz> Darkside, I looked at the js code, there isn't anything obvious to me it's quite good !
[10:16] <Darkside> heh
[10:16] <Darkside> also im planning on merging in the M10 stuff into master on sunday
[10:16] <Darkside> doing a balloon launch tomorrow, so wont have time then!
[10:21] <Viproz> okay, I'm running with csdr right now, it's really good https://tracker.sondehub.org/?sondehub=1#!mt=osm&mz=10&qm=1_day&f=RS_M10-T-803-2-10730&q=RS_M10-T-803-2-10730 I got a lot more of the path than usual
[10:22] <Darkside> ok cool
[10:23] <Darkside> so with nanosdr, im going to see if i can get permission to include a snapshot of it as part of our repository
[10:23] <Darkside> and then we can go in and add in our own custom filter settings and the like
[10:23] <Darkside> so we can have a custom filter for each radiosonde if we want
[10:24] <Viproz> we use rtl_sdr IQ data with it ?
[10:24] <Darkside> it'll use librtlsdr directly
[10:24] <Darkside> hmm, it can take IQ data via stdin too
[10:25] <Viproz> Okay means that we can run some benchmarks to get the best settings :)
[10:25] <Darkside> exactly
[10:25] <Darkside> the rtl_sdr utility not having a bias tee option is a shit
[10:27] <Lahti> Viproz: Do you have practical information on how long a battery will last M10 ? Hunting For How Long Does It Send Coordinate After Dripping In The Country ?
[10:28] <Viproz> yeah, my SDR has it always enabled, I don't know what you're supposed to do when using a JPole or some other DC short antenna
[10:29] <Viproz> Lahti, I don't know but the RS sends its battery voltage, F5MVO gave me the formula and I found the data that encodes it so I'm probably going to add it
[10:31] <Lahti> Viproz: ok, RS41 hunting is easy when you send another country over 6h, this program shows the battery voltages http://escursioni.altervista.org/Radiosonde/
[10:32] <Darkside> that program shows a lot of things... i would like to know how the author figured out how to read them!
[10:34] <Viproz> you don't yet have the assembly code of the RS41 ? I think that's partly how people decoded the M2K2/M10
[10:34] <Darkside> chip is read protected
[10:35] <Darkside> there is a known attack on the chip, but we havent got it to work yet
[10:36] <Viproz> Lahti, from radiosonde.info (in French) they say that it can go up to 28-30h but if it's really cold it might sometimes lower the voltage too much and be just the 3h advertised by MeteoModem
[10:36] <Viproz> some hardware hacking, that's something I would really want to learn but don't know if I have the time and equipment
[10:42] <Lahti> Viproz: ok, in summer plan night hunting when M10 comes here
[10:45] <Viproz> I don't know if it's always like this but here they sometimes fall at 8m/s and sometimes at 3.5m/s so if today's RS falls between 6 and 4 I think I ca get it
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[10:48] <Nilkki> is it possible calculate prediction from log files?
[10:48] <Darkside> how do you mean?
[10:52] <SpeedEvil> Nilkki: the weather data is usually not archived, as I understand it, and would need to be to do that.
[10:52] <Nilkki> I mean that in finland, forest are full of snow and if I want to hunt those sondes in summer, I can use auto_rx log files and some calculations to get correct drop location
[10:53] <Darkside> depends how low you track them down to
[10:53] <Darkside> if you track them down to maybe a few hundred metres, then some linear interpolation of the trajectory from the last few telemetry frames is probably going to be fairly accurate
[10:53] <SpeedEvil> Yeah - if you get the signal down to 100m AGL, you care rather less and probably have a good shot.
[10:53] <Darkside> but if you're only tracked them down to ~1km or so, its not going to be enough
[10:54] <Darkside> also dont forget that these things can be really damn hard to spot
[10:54] <Lahti> yeah, here's the hell of snow now, my antennas are twisting the weight of snow when they accumulate a lot
[10:54] <Darkside> i've had a few cases where i havent seen a sonde until i've walked on top of it
[10:54] <Darkside> and i only walked on top of it because i was doign direction finding to it
[10:54] <SpeedEvil> If you might want to track something in the future, it's best to run something autonomous or semi-autonomous to get a prediction on the day, and log it
[10:54] <Viproz> Darkside, I have a question with chasemapper, if I pi powers down and then back up but I don't get a new frame with auto_rx, does it load the previously recieved frames or does it wait for something new ?
[10:55] <Darkside> it will wait
[10:55] <Darkside> i did think about logging old data, but.... never got around to it
[10:55] <Darkside> and have never really had a need for it
[10:56] <Viproz> okay, it's just that I have a spotty power bank, it sometimes doesn't give enough power and the pi restarts so I'll take screenshots of the predicted positions when I get something close to not loose it ^^
[10:56] <Darkside> yeah maybe look at a better power solution :P
[10:57] <Darkside> i should find the pic of the back of my car...
[10:57] <Darkside> https://twitter.com/darksidelemm/status/964672307934277633
[10:57] <Nilkki> A few weeks ago I found the RS92 even though it was buried in the snow. Yarn hung from the tree branch and the torch light revealed it
[10:58] <Viproz> in a car we can just use a phone charger plugged on the cigarette lighter right ?
[11:00] <Darkside> sure, if you dont turn off the car
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[11:05] <Lahti> my hunting car setup https://aijaa.com/LZ2lNX
[11:06] <Lahti> and antenna https://aijaa.com/1g7J1Y
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[11:09] <Viproz> That's a simpler setup
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[11:11] <Lahti> Antenna tuned with an AA-1000 analyzer at 403MHz
[11:19] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03U3S28 after 0312 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=U3S28
[11:22] <daveake> Viproz: Some power banks will charge and power stuff at the same time. Usually it's the cheap ones that do this :)
[11:23] <craag> If anyone has a known-good one that does this, I'd be interested to know.
[11:24] <craag> from what I read ravpower have removed the feature from several of their powerpacks (still advertised as identical models)
[11:26] <Lahti> For the whole world, you can arrange entertainment when you leave the hunt away, the sonde still running :D https://aijaa.com/f8jX0W
[11:28] <Lahti> Here I differed from refueling the car :D https://aijaa.com/zTWDpD
[11:29] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VK5LJG-9_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VK5LJG-9_chase
[11:30] <gm> thinking of getting a PiJuice hat for the in-car pi
[11:30] <daveake> craag: dunno about good but I tested and labelled up the ones that worked
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[11:31] <daveake> Most were cheap Chinese but one is (or was - it's quite old) an RS-labelled one
[11:33] <daveake> Ah they still do it :) 7757508
[11:33] <dbrooke> I have a ravpower which sort of does but the output voltage drops when on charge, it still charges a phone but probably wouldn't run a Pi etc.
[11:33] <daveake> Have several I got for free from an RS HAB project
[11:34] <craag> I was after it for a pi3b+, pijuice hat is a bit pricey but would be a neater solution.
[11:34] <daveake> So yeah get that one :). Hopefully they haven't changed the electronics
[11:34] <craag> thanks daveake - I'll just grab a couple at that price!
[11:35] <daveake> Yeah that's a bargain!
[11:36] <chris_99> they seem to have other RS branded ones too, wonder if they work as well
[11:36] <daveake> Iirc that was the middle one in a range of 3
[11:36] <daveake> Not tried the others
[11:37] <chris_99> ah gotcha
[11:41] <dbrooke> for in car I've used https://spellfoundry.com/product/sleepy-pi-2/
[11:42] <dbrooke> the avr on it also drives an RFM69 as a ukhasnet node/gateway
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[11:43] <dbrooke> and with a 3G hat and a Pi3 as wifi AP too it replaced a whole shelf of stuff from my previous car setup
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[12:52] <PE2BZ> Viproz hope you don´t mind asking, but how do I ¨switch¨ auto_rx to the testing branch for M10 support ?
[12:58] <Viproz_> PE2BZ, I'm going on a hunt but usually I just pull the good branch, there are somme commands but I don't know then so git pull --branch testing therepolink
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[13:23] <daveake> dbrooke: For the car I have a huge SLA :)
[13:24] <daveake> Though now that it's all pi receivers that might be a tad ott
[13:33] <zyp> I think I've got around 300kg of lithium batteries in my car :)
[13:34] <craag> just need a 400V -> 5V DC-DC and you're sorted then ;)
[13:35] <dbrooke> I have a second battery in the Land Rover so that would probably run the kit for a while but it's still nice to have it turn off with the ignition switch (after 10 mins)
[13:35] <zyp> well, there is already a DC-DC to 12V
[13:35] <dbrooke> yeah, my "new" car is about 380V
[13:36] <dbrooke> I've not equipped that with anything yet
[13:36] <zyp> which one you've got?
[13:36] <dbrooke> 24kWH Leaf
[13:36] <zyp> ah
[13:51] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03MAD-1a after 038 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=MAD-1a
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[15:15] <Lahti> fullhd https://tracker.sondehub.org/?sondehub=1#!mt=osm&mz=6&qm=All&mc=58.78172,26.06299&f=RS_K2513346&q=RS_K2513346
[15:21] <Lahti> here's my longest connection https://aijaa.com/9cZBj4
[15:23] <Lahti> Mikitsub station is the number one in Finland's longest connection https://aijaa.com/hmOKMO
[15:26] <SA6BSS-Mike> have the "longest" one ben sent up from Sundsvall ?
[15:27] <SA6BSS-Mike> the swedish balloon on the east coast goes up from Luleå, Sundsvall och Visby.
[15:28] <SA6BSS-Mike> and midnight launches from Gothenburg that I usulu hunt if they drop close
[15:30] <Lahti> I or another Finnish station have picked up all Swedish east coast balloon launch locations
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[15:41] <Viproz> Got my first M10 Trimble !
[15:42] <happysat> Congrats :)
[15:43] <Viproz> Thanks ! PE2BZ you got it working ?
[15:45] <PE2BZ> Works nice ! Had my first 2 M10 decodes, which never worked with SondeMonitor over here.
[15:45] <PE2BZ> Congrats on the catch !
[15:51] <PE2BZ> Viproz oldM10401.000 MHzM10-T-807-2-109432019-02-08T13:08:28Z154963130849.035204.5466335749.6-48.5-191765333.4
[15:51] <PE2BZ> oldM10402.400 MHzM10-T-803-2-112392019-02-08T14:01:16Z154963447649.079884.2357722661.1-31.9-60.81803326.0
[15:51] <PE2BZ> Which one did you catch ;-)
[15:53] <Lahti> Congratulations on M10 catch Viproz
[15:56] <Viproz> PE2BZ, https://tracker.sondehub.org/?sondehub=1#!mt=osm&mz=10&qm=6_hours&mc=43.35909,5.34653&f=RS_M10-T-803-2-10732&q=RS_*;*chase caught this one, 402.0 launched in Nimes, the last position on the map is the touchdown position
[15:59] <happysat> did you guys ever try this can also decode m10 but it think its based on older zilog decoders
[15:59] <happysat> http://www.om3bc.com/docs/SF/sondefinder_en.html?fbclid=IwAR30axg6sGTKY4N37iuPTq3RLEiXqEczKUx51K8DYWEuWM1Uz8JGD2ofh1I
[16:00] <happysat> shame this guy has no git or smth
[16:02] <Viproz> he's shipping already built binary, that's weird
[16:02] <happysat> his rs-41 mod s/w i the same only a hex file
[16:03] <happysat> http://www.om3bc.com/docs/rs41/rs41_en.html
[16:03] <Viproz> but if you want something on the field, personnally I just had my pi with auto_rx and chasemapper, connected them via shared wifi to my phone and looked at chasemapper the whole time
[16:04] <happysat> yes that works for chasing i have it on my pi
[16:04] <happysat> but this works also tried on dfm09
[16:04] <happysat> if they land in crops they are hard to find
[16:05] <happysat> b4 i did use zilogs decoders only cmd line
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[16:10] <Viproz> the GPS is not precise on DFMs ?
[16:11] <happysat> it is but try to find a small white box between potato plants at 3 am :d
[16:11] <happysat> or in trees
[16:12] <Viproz> haha right !
[16:12] <Viproz> What I wanted to add to auto_rx was a way to listen to the audio live, this would solve this problem
[16:13] <happysat> i did met zilog once in germany a dfm did land on a factory roof he was first to find it
[16:13] <happysat> i use a baofeng b5 for that
[16:26] <Lahti> https://tracker.sondehub.org/?sondehub=1#!mt=osm&mz=7&qm=All&mc=50.06502,7.3715&f=RS_DFM09-18060023&q=RS_DFM09-18060023
[16:28] <Lahti> I've noticed DFM sondes goes mad with gps
[16:33] <happysat> they drift from 402.870 to 402.864 or even worser 402.862 and recover back to 402.870 when they warm up after the burst
[16:33] <happysat> thats why you got the gps fuqups
[16:34] <happysat> serienumbers 160XXXX where more stable on freq
[16:35] <happysat> auto-rx/dxlaprs after a while they lose lock
[16:35] <happysat> only can track manual with gqrx or sdrsharp if one wants the whole track..
[16:48] <happysat> meh still no sstv from the station
[16:49] <happysat> ah there we go :d
[16:51] <happysat> nah they are screwing arround
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[17:05] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N4XWC-1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1
[17:27] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BSS18 after 039 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BSS18
[17:29] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HA6SZT after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HA6SZT
[17:48] <PE2BZ> Viproz somehow I thought you lived North of Paris ;-)
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[18:01] <Viproz> PE2BZ, well my school is in Troyes but I'm done studying there so right now I'm at my parents place and in two days I'll be in Toulouse doing my internship so I move a bit ;)
[18:04] <PE2BZ> Passed your exams succesfully or awaiting the results ?
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[18:32] <Viproz> Yeah no worries there, I'll have the exact number of credits to graduate after this semester
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[19:25] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PE2BZ-RS41HUP - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PE2BZ-RS41HUP
[19:26] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BAG05-12 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BAG05-12
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[19:41] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03YO3ICT - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YO3ICT
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[21:07] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03ICSPACE4 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ICSPACE4
[21:13] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03ICSPACE5 after 0321 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ICSPACE5
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[21:51] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VK5QI-9_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VK5QI-9_chase
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[23:08] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VK5LJG-9_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VK5LJG-9_chase
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[23:34] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03HORUSLORA1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HORUSLORA1
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[23:57] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03HORUSBINARY - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HORUSBINARY
[23:59] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03HORUS - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HORUS
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