highaltitude.log.20190204

[00:06] <Ian_> This sounds exactly like a monologue from the other day. Is this an exotic form of spamming or genuine enquiry?
[00:10] <Ian_> Beginning at [0810] 30 January 2019 :-)
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[01:14] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VE6AZX-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VE6AZX-11
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[04:22] <SpeedEvil> http://www.tech-faq.com/gmsk.html copypasta Ian_ - I have no idea why
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[05:44] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Sp5car - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Sp5car
[06:02] <Ian_> SpeedEvil, what, is your crystal ball not working 100% either ;-)
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[07:44] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03ICSPACE2 after 036 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ICSPACE2
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[07:56] <Nilkki> Hello! Some reason last night M10 sonde from tallinn not shown on sondehub.org. We have two stations which are received data from M10 and sent that to server but sondehub does not show that sonde.
[07:57] <Nilkki> We use auto_rx testing branch. Auto_rx was cloned yesterday.
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[08:02] <SA6BSS-Mike> lets ping Darkside
[08:03] <SA6BSS-Mike> I know there was some stations reporting wrong time thats was removed
[08:04] <SA6BSS-Mike> timestamps days into future which mde them stay on the tracker for days
[08:07] <Darkside> Nilkki: were you TST_EST?
[08:08] <Darkside> theres definitely something not right with packets coming from that station
[08:08] <Darkside> however im not 100% sure what the issue is
[08:13] <Darkside> Nilkki: could you please e-mail the sonde log and the system log for that period through to vk5qi@rfhead.net
[08:17] <Darkside> somethign is definitely not right with either the M10 code or something else
[08:24] <Darkside> so yes, we intentionally blocked packets from that station to get the owner to come contact us - clearly it worked :-)
[08:28] <Nilkki> No. I am Nilkki :)
[08:28] <Nilkki> From Finland
[08:29] <Darkside> ah hmm
[08:29] <Nilkki> I will send mail when I am home
[08:29] <Darkside> i dont think we blocked any stations in finland, just TST_EST
[08:30] <Nilkki> I use testing branch of auto_rx
[08:30] <Lahti> Darkside: Nilkki is part of our team from Tampere
[08:30] <Darkside> oh wait, we didn't block anyone!
[08:30] <Darkside> as it turns out
[08:30] <Darkside> haha
[08:30] <Darkside> so yeah, not sure why its not uploading
[08:30] <Darkside> hmmmmm
[08:31] <Nilkki> Lahti is other station which hear that M10
[08:31] <Darkside> a look at the system log would be good
[08:31] <Darkside> im wondering if we broke something in the testing update
[08:32] <Lahti> Lahti mobile is M10 station
[08:33] <Darkside> oh
[08:33] <Darkside> ok well a system log from that station would be good
[08:35] <Lahti> is considered as our next night going to M10
[08:36] <mwheeler> yo
[08:36] <Nilkki> and Nilkki Sondehunter is also M10
[08:37] <Darkside> ohi mwheeler
[08:37] <Darkside> Nilkki: so yeah, some system logs from these stations would be good
[08:37] <Darkside> as that will sho any errors when uploading
[08:40] <mwheeler> It seems to be working Lahti, https://sondehub.org/N4340984
[08:40] <mwheeler> Or am I missing something?
[08:41] <Darkside> it was the M10s that didnt seem to upload
[08:41] <Darkside> but the system log will confirm that
[08:41] <Lahti> 2019-02-04 01:48:04,038 INFO:Habitat - Uploaded sentence to Habitat successfully: $$RS_809 2 14266,1549237686,23:48:06,59.46608,24.78942,4722,2 9.8,-19.0,-1.0,M10 809 2 14266 404.000 MHz*58F5
[08:42] <Darkside> hmm that doesnt look right
[08:42] <Lahti> 2019-02-04 03:12:31,456 INFO:Habitat - Uploaded sentence to Habitat successfully: $$RS_809 2 14266,1549242758,01:12:38,60.00818,26.30508,1963,1 2.9,-3.0,-1.0,M10 809 2 14266 404.000 MHz*6E59
[08:42] <Darkside> that callsign doesnt look right at all
[08:42] <mwheeler> yeah I was just looking at that
[08:43] <mwheeler> it uploaded to elasticsearch with the broken call sign
[08:43] <mwheeler> "RS_809 2 14266"
[08:44] <Darkside> hmm, looking at the M10 code, that is the callsign its generating
[08:44] <Darkside> i wonder if Viproz changed something
[08:44] <mwheeler> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/fCcpMQ73/image.png
[08:45] <Lahti> 2019-02-03T23:46:12Z,809 2 14266,1549237572,59.44785,24.75342,4070.1,-15.2,M1 0,404.000
[08:45] <Darkside> https://github.com/projecthorus/radiosonde_auto_rx/blob/testing/m10/M10GTopParser.cpp#L196
[08:45] <Lahti> 2019-02-04T01:12:38Z,809 2 14266,1549242758,60.00818,26.30508,1963.5,-3.0,M10 ,404.000
[08:45] <Darkside> yep, thats definitely not right
[08:46] <Darkside> hmm this might be my fault
[08:46] <Darkside> i may have messed up a merge
[08:46] <mwheeler> nah
[08:46] <mwheeler> https://github.com/projecthorus/radiosonde_auto_rx/commit/952c0d817610a822ef350f2d55b6562c9b681326#diff-ba4f6e9529f84199cdc0ce7be59c18ceR196
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[08:49] <Darkside> i swear i've seen sonds on the map with a RS_M10-something callsign
[08:49] <Darkside> im trying to figure out how the hell we saw those
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[08:50] <Darkside> confused :-(
[08:52] <Darkside> IMO the serial number used shouldnt have any spaces
[08:52] <Darkside> should me somethign olike M10-809-2-14266
[08:52] <Darkside> which i swear it used to do...
[08:54] <Darkside> shouldnt be hard to make it do that, but its not like i have any M10s to test with
[08:57] <mwheeler> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/PC2Q6wvN/image.png
[08:58] <mwheeler> Darkside: ^^ they used to be
[08:58] <Darkside> so where the hell did that get reverted :(
[08:58] <Darkside> urghhhhhhh
[08:59] <Darkside> im wondering if that conversion was done in the python code or the C
[09:04] <mwheeler> not sure, I checked both and can't find any references
[09:04] <Darkside> urghhhhh
[09:05] <Darkside> need Viproz here
[09:13] <Darkside> i cant figure it out
[09:15] <Darkside> i can see where it can be fixed in the C++ code though
[09:43] <Nilkki> At least TST_EST have received M10 and it has shown on sondehug
[09:44] <Nilkki> M10 log file name: 20190204-002540_809\ 2\ 14266_M10_404000_sonde.log
[09:50] <Nilkki> Darkside: Do You need my log file anymore?
[09:55] <Darkside> nah we know whats going on
[09:56] <Darkside> defiinitely reversed something we shouldnt have
[09:56] <Darkside> will fix it...
[09:59] <Nilkki> by the way i have happened one time that auto_rx was reported with future timestamp. Time was ~30 minutes in future. That was only one measurement. I used master branch auto_rx. I don't remember what sonde that was
[10:00] <Darkside> hmm
[10:00] <Darkside> odd
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[11:28] <Viproz> Darkside, hey, I never touched something for the uploading to habhub, it looked it there wasn't anything sonde specific
[11:29] <Viproz> and the timestamp is the frame used or generated bu auto_rx ?
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[11:37] <Darkside> Viproz: the timestamp is from the frame
[11:37] <Darkside> Im not sure what happened with the M10 habitat callsign stuff
[11:37] <Darkside> i suspect i broke something
[11:38] <Viproz> How is it supposed to be ?
[11:38] <Viproz> The spaces instead of the - I'm pretty sure it has always been there
[11:38] <hairgoneJohn> Hi folks. JOAL12 launched on Saturday and took pictures. Is it possible to download them from the server or do I need to save them one by one?
[11:40] <Darkside> Viproz: its weird, we have records of sondes being uploaded with the dashes
[11:40] <Darkside> hairgoneJohn: i might have a python script that will help with that, let me check
[11:40] <hairgoneJohn> Ta muchly.
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[11:45] <Darkside> https://gist.github.com/darksidelemm/cd7087a9d67cdf51568f7b2e79219e1f
[11:45] <Darkside> its a bit hacky
[11:46] <Darkside> you should be able to run it with somethign like
[11:46] <Darkside> ython ssdv_grabber.py JOAL12 2019-01-30T00:00:00Z
[11:46] <Darkside> python*
[11:46] <Darkside> that timestamp should ideally be just before the flights, its used to select what the first image to download is
[11:46] <Darkside> and you will need the python wget library
[11:48] <Viproz> The id isn't modified until _callsign = "RS_" + _id so unless that was changed in the commits I don't see why it would have changed
[11:48] <Darkside> yeah
[11:48] <Darkside> i dont get it either
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[11:48] <Darkside> anyway, it should probably be modified in the C code to return M10-number-number-number
[11:48] <Darkside> and that'll fix it
[11:48] <Darkside> i can do that fairly easily
[11:49] <Darkside> hairgoneJohn: it'll take a while btw, first thing it does is actually grabs all the per-image data which I usually use to make a 'statistics' table for the flight
[11:50] <Viproz> Why return M10 in the C code tho, we already know it's a M10
[11:50] <Darkside> Viproz: true... its just how I ended up doign the other sondes :-)
[11:51] <Darkside> (well kind of, the RS41/RS92s dont do that)
[11:52] <Viproz> maybe I'll add the RS type in there then too, like M10-G-901-2-14569 for Gtop and T or P for the other
[11:52] <hairgoneJohn> thanks. What is the "per image data"?
[11:52] <Viproz> the M10 type sorry
[11:53] <Darkside> hairgoneJohn: it gives stats on who received what packets
[11:53] <Darkside> which is more interesting when there's more than 2 receivers for the flight :P
[11:54] <Darkside> hairgoneJohn: you could comment that section out and it will save a lot of time
[11:54] <Darkside> its kind of fun to see how much data was downlinked from the payload - in your case about 13mb
[11:54] <hairgoneJohn> thanks.
[11:55] <Darkside> Viproz: if you can that'd be good, and start from the latest testing branch :-)
[11:55] <Darkside> then I Can merge it straight into testing, for Nilkki and those that are playing with it up in finland
[11:55] <Darkside> but yeah, it looks like habitat is unhappy with the spaces in teh callsign
[11:56] <Viproz> yeah I just pulled in a new folder, my folders are a big mess right now I'm not up to date and I have other codes in the works
[11:56] <Darkside> hehe
[11:56] <Darkside> yeah it got a bit confusing on the weekend!
[11:56] <Darkside> when i was merging in a few different PRs and trying to keep the master and testing branches both up to date
[11:57] <Darkside> good fun tho, i'm getting better at handling git...
[11:57] <Viproz> I should rename everything ptu to trimble too, I'm not sure I want to do that now x)
[11:58] <Darkside> hehe
[11:58] <Darkside> I'm looking forward to merging your code into master!
[11:58] <Viproz> I should before it's merged in master tho
[11:58] <Darkside> once we fix up the callsign stuff I think we're pretty much reasy
[11:58] <Darkside> ready*
[11:58] <Darkside> we have a nice collection of testers aroudn the place :D
[11:58] <Viproz> That's awesome :)
[11:59] <Darkside> its been interesting seeing people update to the testing branch
[11:59] <Darkside> looks like lots of people wanting to decode M10 sondes - good job on that :D
[11:59] <Darkside> its also awesome that rs1729 has been taking part in the discussions on github - still not sure what his username in here is... I think he's keeping incognito!
[12:00] <Viproz> Yeah and maybe people in France are going to start using auto_rx too !
[12:00] <Darkside> hehe maybe
[12:00] <Viproz> I think he's just reading the logs, that's what he said in the issue
[12:00] <Darkside> ahh
[12:01] <Darkside> HELLO FROM THE PAST rs1729!
[12:02] <Viproz> Arg, I've put GTop everywhere but it's Gtop...
[12:03] <Darkside> Viproz: but yeah, you decide what you want the habitat callsign to be - and everyone else can use that as a standard :)
[12:05] Nick change: craag -> Phil_M0DNY
[12:05] <Darkside> Phil_M0DNY: are you the owner of the amsat-uk twitter account?
[12:05] <Nilkki> How long sonde data is archived? only 3 days as sondehub.org page get?
[12:06] <Phil_M0DNY> Darkside: No, that'd be trevor m5aka I believe.
[12:06] <Darkside> ahh
[12:06] <Darkside> Nilkki: its possible to get data from much longer ago using http://habitat.habhub.org/ept/
[12:06] <Darkside> but... thats getting hard to use because of the shitload of payload docs we have added in from all the radiosondes!
[12:07] <Darkside> we're goign to be starting a program of clearing out all the old radiosonde payload documents soonish, so only a 2 week backlog will be available
[12:07] <Nilkki> ok, thanks.
[12:13] <Viproz> M10-G-705-2-21125 and M10-T-803-2-10943, Darkside good for Habitat ?
[12:13] <Darkside> yeah that'd be fine
[12:15] <Viproz> Ah I should add the aux tag to the data if it has aux data even though I'm not decoding it
[12:15] <Viproz> What value would you recommend I put as a default value, -1 ?
[12:19] <Darkside> hrm
[12:19] <Darkside> i guess so, we dont use the aux data field yet
[12:19] <Darkside> eventually the aim will be to send all of those raw data fields to some other server, for furtehr analysis
[12:19] <Darkside> so may as well put it in the json blob
[12:20] <Viproz> my thinking was mainly for this : _telemetry['type'] += "-Ozone"
[12:20] <Viproz> just to identify that the RS is an ozone one not a regular one for station analysis
[12:22] <Darkside> hmm
[12:22] <Darkside> yeah we identify the vaisala ozone sondes that way because theyre worth picking up
[12:22] <Darkside> i guess until we know what the aux data on the M10 really is, i wouldnt add those flags in yet
[12:22] <Darkside> oh right
[12:23] <Darkside> hmm
[12:23] <Darkside> i guess dont add in the aux field if there is no data in that case
[12:23] <Darkside> i see now that i'm just using the presence of the aux field to indicate its an ozone sonde, which may not be valid for the M10
[12:23] <Darkside> pretty sure i wrote that code before we supported any other sonde types :-)
[12:24] <Viproz> well it's pretty much always an ozone sonde if it has auxiliary data
[12:25] <Viproz> The issue is that if we don't include it we have no way of knowing the RS has something more than usual
[12:32] <Darkside> yeah
[12:33] <Darkside> well in that case, for theM10, i'd include the aux field in the json if there is aux data, just like with the vaisala sondes
[12:33] <Darkside> and that will append the -Ozone to the type in the habitat comment field
[12:40] <Viproz> okay now the fun part, commiting and pushing all of this x)
[12:40] <Darkside> so you have a testing branch in your fork?
[12:41] <Viproz> yes but not up to date
[12:41] <Darkside> ok definitely rebase first
[12:41] <Darkside> (as in, make sure its up to date!)
[12:41] <Darkside> then make changes, then commit/push
[12:42] <Darkside> theres been a lot of changes in the testing branch over the last few days
[12:42] <Viproz> how do I do that ? usually I delete the whole repository and reclone it :D
[12:42] <Viproz> Can I just do a PR from your branch to my clone ?
[12:43] <Darkside> not that way
[12:43] <Darkside> hrm
[12:44] <Darkside> you have your own fork, yes?
[12:44] <Viproz> https://github.com/Viproz/radiosonde_auto_rx/compare/testing...projecthorus:testing this wouldn't work ?
[12:44] <Viproz> yep
[12:44] <Viproz> https://github.com/Viproz/radiosonde_auto_rx/compare/testing...projecthorus:testing
[12:44] <Darkside> oh i guess you could do it that way
[12:45] <Darkside> so the way i do it on my system is in my local copy of the repo, i have added a 'git remote' called 'upstream', which points to the 'main' radiosonde_auto_rx repo
[12:45] <Darkside> and then i can run: git fetch upstream
[12:46] <Darkside> then: git merge upstream/master , or perhaps git merge upstream/testing
[12:46] <Viproz> is there another way to just replace the branch completely ?
[12:46] <Darkside> you could delete the branch
[12:47] <Darkside> if you're happy to blow away any changes you have made already
[12:47] <Darkside> then make a new branch, and pull in the changes from the upstream testing branch
[12:47] <Viproz> there are no changes in there that are not in the other testing branch
[12:50] <Darkside> well if you'r ehappy to delete it, then thats one option
[12:52] <Darkside> you have a local copy of your repo somewhere, right?
[12:53] <Darkside> one way you could manage this is:
[12:53] <Darkside> Add the upstream repo as a remote by running: git remote add upstream https://github.com/projecthorus/radiosonde_auto_rx.git
[12:53] <Viproz> I have local copier of way too many versions :D
[12:53] <Darkside> Fetch the changes from upstream by running: git fetch upstream
[12:53] <Darkside> then create a new branch: git checkout -b new_testing
[12:53] <Darkside> and then merge in the upstream testing changes: git merge upstream/testing
[12:54] <Darkside> then make the changes you need to
[12:54] <Darkside> once done, commit them, then you want to push your new_testing branch to github so you can make a Pr
[12:54] <Darkside> you push a new branch to github by running: git push origin new_testing
[12:55] <Darkside> then once thats been merged into master, you can delete the branch with: git branch -d new_testing
[12:55] <Darkside> and then you can update your own master branch by running: git checkout master
[12:55] <Darkside> git fetch upstream
[12:55] <Darkside> git merge upstream/master
[12:56] <Darkside> if you're feeling confused by now, thats normal
[12:56] <Darkside> it helps that I use git at work a lot
[12:57] <Nilkki> :)
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[13:00] <Darkside> now i really need to get to bed...
[13:00] <Viproz> I'm almost done, will it take into account the case change correctly on windows ?
[13:00] <Darkside> hrm not sure about windows!!
[13:01] <Darkside> i think git figured things out
[13:01] <Darkside> but not 100%
[13:05] <Viproz> https://github.com/Viproz/radiosonde_auto_rx/tree/other_testing/m10 fuck it didn't change the GTop to Gtop, this is not going to work on linux
[13:05] <Lahti> Trapped 404.000MHz grabbed :)
[13:09] <Viproz> okay now it's good, I had to move it to another name and then move it back to the right case
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[13:44] <Nilkki> Viproz, are You update auto_rx testing branch or some other?
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[14:49] <chris_99> Hey, out of interest what do you peeps think of this https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Antenna-collinear-868-Mhz-869-mhz-LORAWAN-LORA-great-gain-SDR-USB-smart-grid/303032522038
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[15:11] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BAG03-12 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BAG03-12
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[15:30] <Viproz> I have to say, I don't really like habhub tracker, I would like to get rid of all of theses blue circles but I can't or I don't know where I can and right now I can't select any vehicle I don't know why
[15:31] <Viproz> If you set it to 1-3 days it then becomes very laggy and unpleasant to use also
[15:32] <Viproz> I'm guessing it wasn't made to show that many RS
[15:37] <PE2BZ> chris_99 As antenna for the 868 MHz band it will be fine. 5 dB is not much gain but it´s omnidirectional and should work for LoRa payloads in that range. For tracking HAB without rotator that would be good.
[15:39] <chris_99> cheers, by rotator you mean you mean some kind of motorized thing, with say a yagi on?
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[15:48] <PE2BZ> Indeed !
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[16:26] <Ian_> Unusual for a vertical antenna gain to be specified as dBD. Difference between dBi (base) and a Dipole is nominally 2.1dB, so you would expect a sales person (Hmm) to specify it as 7.1dBi
[16:27] <Ian_> I guess that either figure seems to be ball park for a Colinear though.
[16:29] <russss> it seems like antennas aimed at ham radio are usually specced in dBd...
[16:29] <russss> I find it pointless and annoying.
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[16:34] <Ian_> Yagis in dBD as the progression from a dipole is relevant. Verticals against the isotropic model and always bearing in mind the difference between the two.
[16:35] <russss> I'd much rather have everything in dBi and then if I do ever feel the need to compare something against a dipole it's not especially taxing to subtract 2.1
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[16:35] <Ian_> There is always a temptation to advertise using the highest figure in an unqualified manner and at times it is deliberate.
[16:35] <Ian_> I'm inclined to agree with you russss
[16:35] <russss> this is...kind of the benefit of the decibel scale
[16:36] <russss> same thing with dBm and dBW tbh
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[16:56] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RTLS1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RTLS1
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[20:36] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03ICSPACE2 after 0312 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ICSPACE2
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[21:24] <Darkside> Viproz: PR merged, and i've updated the version number
[21:25] <Viproz> I saw and I got really afraid I had forgotten to check if the type change was messing up something later but not it's "elif 'M10' in sonde_data['type']:" and not == :)
[22:04] <Viproz> I've setup everything again, I should be able to confirm that everything is still working tonight
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[23:49] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VK5PET_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VK5PET_chase
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