highaltitude.log.20181201

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[00:31] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VK2GJ-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VK2GJ-11
[00:48] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03100LAT_SQ9MDD - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=100LAT_SQ9MDD
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[01:07] <__red__> So - I keep seeing references to people using LORA
[01:07] <__red__> anyone have any good references? esp with respect to existing ground station infrastructure etc...
[01:07] <__red__> (I've used LORA for my own point to point stuff - never for ballooning)
[01:08] <__red__> (I've not launched a balloon in about 5 years so I'm a bit behind in the tech)
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[01:39] <jarod> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_idVXgEUjQQ
[01:53] <Ian_> __red__ I'm just going to bed, but http://www.daveakerman.com/?p=2101 and look up his Lora Gateway too. Where in the world are you located?
[01:53] <Ian_> I'll read your response in the morning.
[01:55] <Ian_> Dave has championed a fair bit of LoRa HAB stuff and it does allow both tracker and ground sector gateways without having to buy an expensive receiver. SDR is of course another option for non-LoRa stuff.
[02:23] <__red__> thaks Ian_ - i'll take a look(!)
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[05:58] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KF4ZTI after 0312 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KF4ZTI
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[07:26] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Nsat2_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Nsat2_chase
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[08:13] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03EM2018 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=EM2018
[08:16] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SOSA_Team1_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SOSA_Team1_chase
[08:17] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03E24TZI-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=E24TZI-11
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[08:29] <Ian_> __red__ rgr
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[10:31] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03DenstoneL after 0319 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DenstoneL
[10:32] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03DenstoneR after 0319 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DenstoneR
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[11:03] <HABISRAEL> When Denstone 2018 is going to be launched?
[11:05] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IV3SRD-11 after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IV3SRD-11
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[11:11] <HABISRAEL> shift for DenstoneR?
[11:12] <PE2BZ> Did you try autoconfigure in dl-fldigi ?
[11:13] <HABISRAEL> Yes, but it's not correct...
[11:14] <PE2BZ> Ok sorry no reception here yet, can´t tell
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[11:15] <PE2BZ> !payload DenstoneR
[11:15] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Payload 03DenstoneRv1 10(9b28) 03$$DenstoneR - 03PIE with sensors 300 baud - 03434.2 MHz USB 03RTTY 300/600Hz ASCII-8 none 2
[11:15] <g8fjg> 300/600 8n2
[11:20] <g8fjg> lora 434.401 mode1 ssdv on my kit
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[11:39] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PeakHAB_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PeakHAB_chase
[11:40] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Denstone_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Denstone_chase
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[11:54] <mmcc> Looks like I may have a leak - 100g balloon set to burst at 6000m!!
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[12:05] <dbrooke> luckily it's still burst low enough for a dry landing
[12:06] <HABISRAEL> Looks like DenstoneR stopped transmitting
[12:07] <dbrooke> seems the LoRa stopped too 8-(
[12:10] <HABISRAEL> It transmits a very narrow signal (434.2) i am hearing "beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee"
[12:10] <mmcc> All the ticks in Dave's checklist with some paranoia checks of my own. Totally different PITS kit from last time. Maybe it's the way I'm packing the box but in stable freefall, there's no reason for anything to move
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[12:15] <mmcc> That would be the carrier tone from the PITS board - if it loses the plot, the Radiometrix module carries on but without any modulation.
[12:16] <mmcc> At worst, I can use it to triangulate once I get near to it.
[12:16] <mmcc> At best, it reboots when it hits the ground and when I get near I get telemetry and go pick it up directly.
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[12:21] <dbrooke> good luck, fwiw I lost the carrier at ~12:17 from ~60km away
[12:26] <SP9UOB-Tom> !ping betrik
[12:26] <SpacenearUS> 03SP9UOB-Tom: No contact from 03betrik 
[12:26] <mmcc> Cheers - HabHub had a good load of data for its predicted landing site and it's as flat as a pancake round there so LoS with the Yagi is very feasible.
[12:27] <SP9UOB-Tom> !ping bertrik
[12:27] <SpacenearUS> 03SP9UOB-Tom: No contact from 03bertrik
[12:27] <HABISRAEL> Why did it stop transmitting?
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[12:37] <dbrooke> the PITS board stopped sending data to the transmitters but the reason for that is unknown
[12:37] <bertrik> hi SP9UOB-Tom
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[14:03] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03100LAT_SQ9MDD - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=100LAT_SQ9MDD
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[15:01] <Bozzy> !flights
[15:01] <SpacenearUS> 03Bozzy: Current flights: 03100LAT_SQ9MDD 437.600 MHz RTTY 75/540 7N1 & 432.500 MHz APRS & 144.500 MHz SSTV 10(0c71), 03Denstone 2018 10(9b28)
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[15:07] <russss> really clean decap of a MEMS gyro https://twitter.com/nanographs/status/1068550327442403329
[15:08] <chris_99> mm that's really awesome. i wonder if there's a possibliity they could make a video with the SEM, i'm sure i have seen ones before
[15:23] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03K6SGC-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=K6SGC-11
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[16:49] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SP3KSS_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP3KSS_chase
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[17:32] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KF4ZTI after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KF4ZTI
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[17:45] <D0DGYDAVE> hi guys is there a how to for the dl-fldigi pls
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[17:57] <PE2BZ> Are you looking for installation help, operating help or everything ?
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[18:12] <D0DGYDAVE> good question im trying to install an ft897 with dl-fldigi through a signalink i used the signaling through an ft1000 a couple of years ago but never had it set up on the 897 but only the 897 has 70cm
[18:12] <D0DGYDAVE> im getting there slowley i think iv got till thursday to fettle it
[18:16] <PE2BZ> So, I assume the audio from hte 897 to dl-fldigi is not the problem?
[18:18] <PE2BZ> Is that a signalink USB ? like https://www.qsl.net/na4it/slusb/slusb_ft857d.html
[18:18] <D0DGYDAVE> yes its radio setting im trying to sort iv got recieve ok but there isnt any radio control
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[18:19] <PE2BZ> In fldigi you have to choose either one of hamlib or rigcat. which one did you choose ?
[18:22] <PE2BZ> The signalink is only an audio interface and no cat control interface if I understand right ?
[18:23] <PE2BZ> https://youtah.com/2017/03/cat-control-in-fldigi-with-the-yaesu-ft-857d/
[18:25] <D0DGYDAVE> yes i was runing down that page first. i was tryingrigcat first trying hamlib now as it had the radio listed......oh dont ya just love digital
[18:28] <D0DGYDAVE> i much prefer the ft3000 it just has a usb to the pc job done but it doent do 70cm
[18:32] <D0DGYDAVE> mind you i only need to recieve dont i, i wont need to transmit
[18:33] <PE2BZ> You have a working CAT cable for the FT-857 / 897 ?
[18:34] <PE2BZ> You are running windows version of dlfldigi ? If so, did you try ¨run as administrator¨ for perhaps not being allowed to use the com port as not admin ?
[18:37] <D0DGYDAVE> no you are correct its not cat control, i had cat on the ft1000 but remebering back i also had a usb in that for cat. ill just imput things manually see how i get on
[18:38] <PE2BZ> Is that to track the Hi-Impact flight ?
[18:38] <D0DGYDAVE> yes
[18:39] <D0DGYDAVE> the highpeak guy came to our ham club last year and gave a talk and thursday is the first dayoff iv had that something is flying
[18:39] <PE2BZ> Any experience with the frequency stability of the payload in cold situations ? You could be all ok with manual tuning if the drift is not that bad. On the other hand, I like the AFC and cat combination for my IC-7000 because it follows tracker deviation quite nice.
[18:40] <PE2BZ> So you are nearby and able to tune :-)
[18:41] <D0DGYDAVE> not realy close im in doncaster but have directional beam so will give it a go
[18:41] <PE2BZ> But you have no experience with fldigi for tracking HAB´s sofar ?
[18:41] <D0DGYDAVE> and no experience with hab no
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[18:42] <PE2BZ> That gives me the need for another question: you are running DL-fldigi HAB mode ?
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[18:43] <D0DGYDAVE> iv used fldigi befor and iv downloaded dl-fldigi
[18:44] <PE2BZ> dl-fldigi hab mode is the one to upload to the tracker page all your well received packets. With ordinary dl-fldifi you will receive the signals but you would not appear on the tracker.habhub.org page
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[18:46] <D0DGYDAVE> what is hab mode i can only see dl client
[18:48] <D0DGYDAVE> and dl client in the configeration window
[18:48] <PE2BZ> In my Start menu, if I go to FLDIGI, there are 2 optdions, dl-fldigi and right belwo dl-fldigi (HAB MODE) which I need to choose to receive HAB´s
[18:49] <D0DGYDAVE> right sorry its not desplaying as text is cut off as too long
[18:49] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03WB8ELK-1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WB8ELK-1
[18:50] <PE2BZ> No problem. So you have a Fligth choice, a Payload choice and so on :-)
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[18:53] <D0DGYDAVE> yes and its filled in mode but i cant fill in any of the other boxes i suppose it takes them from configeration settings?
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[18:56] <PE2BZ> The boxes like callsign, time and so on ?
[18:58] <D0DGYDAVE> yes
[19:01] <PE2BZ> Those are filled in from the received telemetry indeed
[19:02] <PE2BZ> Did you set your locator AND location ? Those are needed to appear on the map as listener and that way the software can tell you the bearing, distance and elevation
[19:03] <D0DGYDAVE> yes there is a little blue man on the map
[19:04] <PE2BZ> Sorry, that´s not the good one. The blue man is ¨do you allow Google to show your position on the map¨
[19:04] <PE2BZ> You should appear as antenna. Loose the guy on the map (ctrl f5, allow ? NO !)
[19:07] <D0DGYDAVE> ctrl f5 just seems to reset the screen but still blue man, how do you mean allow? no ! ?
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[19:23] <D0DGYDAVE> iv just filled in latitude and longitude and refreshed and still blue man
[19:39] <PE2BZ> M0YDB ?
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[19:39] <PE2BZ> Kill the blue man.... He´s standing on your antenna :-)
[19:40] <PE2BZ> You should close the browser displaying Habhub tracker and restart it, when the browser asks ¨may I use your position¨ say NO
[19:40] <PE2BZ> FT-897 with 12 ele Yagi
[19:41] <PE2BZ> Must be you ;-)
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[20:00] <D0DGYDAVE> yes thats me
[20:01] <PE2BZ> You still see the blue man ?
[20:02] <D0DGYDAVE> hmmmm just closed everything down restarted and the big blue bas***d is still there
[20:02] <D0DGYDAVE> it didnt ask me if it could use my location tho
[20:03] <PE2BZ> Any other browser to try ?
[20:05] <D0DGYDAVE> when i zoom in my antenna is also there, do you not hove the blue man then just antenna?
[20:05] <PE2BZ> You only need the antenna. The blue man did drink to much.
[20:06] <PE2BZ> He´s part of the show your internet provider position on the map. When I am at work I always am 55 km away from home on the map the blue man says. And I work 2 km from home....
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[20:06] <PE2BZ> I am afk till tomorrow bye
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[20:07] <D0DGYDAVE> many thanks buddy all the best
[20:08] <PE2BZ> yw
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[22:14] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SP5KGM-wkrotce_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP5KGM-wkrotce_chase
[22:15] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Test-tedt_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Test-tedt_chase
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[22:45] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Test-test_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Test-test_chase
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[23:15] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IV3SRD-11 after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IV3SRD-11
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