highaltitude.log.20181008

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[00:52] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03XXNCNS - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=XXNCNS
[01:05] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P2220793 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P2220793
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[01:28] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N0743062 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N0743062
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[02:44] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03n4hco-11_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=n4hco-11_chase
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[03:20] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_DFM09-18020336 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_DFM09-18020336
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[04:00] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_DFM09-18052187 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_DFM09-18052187
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[04:47] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P3340501 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P3340501
[04:50] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N2310645 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N2310645
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[05:07] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P3610680 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P3610680
[05:17] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P1620514 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P1620514
[05:37] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4440019 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4440019
[05:41] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P3020112 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P3020112
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[06:14] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3020836 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3020836
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[07:04] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_DFM09-615099 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_DFM09-615099
[07:07] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P3440802 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P3440802
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[07:20] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P3510163 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P3510163
[07:24] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_DFM09-18052918 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_DFM09-18052918
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[07:46] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P1620278 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P1620278
[07:48] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P3340479 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P3340479
[07:55] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_DFM09-616114 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_DFM09-616114
[08:07] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03REL_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=REL_chase
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[09:08] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03TA2MUN-13 after 0319 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=TA2MUN-13
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[09:26] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P3020114 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P3020114
[09:35] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_DFM09-614940 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_DFM09-614940
[09:51] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03HABISRAEL_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HABISRAEL_chase
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[10:10] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P3340478 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P3340478
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[10:26] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_DFM09-18052937 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_DFM09-18052937
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[10:47] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03LCARS_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=LCARS_chase
[10:48] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PTE2 after 0312 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PTE2
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[10:52] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P0950239 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P0950239
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[11:02] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N2310656 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N2310656
[11:07] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IV3SRD-11 after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IV3SRD-11
[11:08] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P3620033 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P3620033
[11:21] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3910198 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3910198
[11:22] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4511306 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4511306
[11:27] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4050505 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4050505
[11:33] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_L3813366 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_L3813366
[11:37] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4720020 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4720020
[11:40] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4430828 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4430828
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[12:04] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4420521 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4420521
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[12:16] <daveake> Pte is up
[12:16] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N1940249 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N1940249
[12:16] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03X2 after 0317 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=X2
[12:17] <daveake> Was funny when the car announced "p t e 1 has been launched"
[12:19] <PB0AHX-Herman> !flights
[12:19] <SpacenearUS> 03PB0AHX-Herman: Current flights: 03X143 10(c4b3), 03PTE2 10(69ee)
[12:19] <PB0AHX-Herman> !payload 69ee
[12:19] <SpacenearUS> 03PB0AHX-Herman: Payload 03X2 10(69ee) 03$$X2 - 03434.2125 MHz USB 03RTTY 75/480Hz ASCII-7 none 2
[12:19] <SpacenearUS> 03PB0AHX-Herman: Payload 03PTE2 10(69ee) 03$$PTE2 - no transmissions
[12:22] <PB0AHX-Herman> that is not 75 BD
[12:23] <daveake> PTE is 300 X2 is 75
[12:24] <PB0AHX-Herman> thanks dave
[12:25] <PB0AHX-Herman> i got him on rtty now in lora
[12:28] <fsphil> https://ssdv.habhub.org/images/2018/10/08/2018-10-08--12-24-47-PTE2-22947.jpeg
[12:28] <fsphil> ^ the moon looks huge
[12:28] <daveake> Cool keep tracking we're aiming high :)
[12:29] <daveake> That's no moon :p
[12:29] <daveake> That's over 8kg of latex ...
[12:34] <PB0AHX-Herman> yesssss lora working great
[12:36] <daveake> :)
[12:39] <fsphil> yep, definitly no moon
[12:40] <daveake> :)
[12:41] <fsphil> hopefully the outer layer doesn't hang around and flop over the camera
[12:42] <WillDuckworth> good luck!
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[12:43] <daveake> Yeah that's a risk fsphil
[12:46] <daveake> That balloons looking big
[12:48] <fsphil> wow
[12:48] <fsphil> how long is the cord?
[12:50] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P1030444 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P1030444
[12:50] <daveake> Not long enough?
[12:50] <fsphil> hah
[12:50] <fsphil> yeah
[12:51] <fsphil> hopefully it's not too turbulant up there
[13:00] <fsphil> !dial X
[13:00] <SpacenearUS> 03fsphil: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[13:00] <fsphil> !dial X0
[13:01] <fsphil> what's going on with X2's altitude
[13:02] <fsphil> ok now it's over the atlantic ocean
[13:02] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_DFM09-615851 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_DFM09-615851
[13:02] <gonzo_> pissed
[13:02] <daveake> Oops
[13:02] <daveake> Says Steve
[13:03] <gonzo_> is he looking at code and saying 'doh' ?
[13:03] <daveake> Well he did make a change yesterday ..
[13:04] <fsphil> mexico_mode: true
[13:04] <daveake> Or something happened when the outer balloon burst
[13:04] <fsphil> it's very odd
[13:05] <daveake> Mine has the Mexican mode :)
[13:05] <gonzo_> outer balloon? You doing summut interesting then?
[13:05] <daveake> Well, optimistically, it has a GPS that works above 50km
[13:06] <fsphil> !dial X2
[13:06] <SpacenearUS> 03fsphil: Latest dials for 03X2 10(69ee): 03434.21394 MHz, 434.551 MHz, 434.215309 MHz, 434.218572 MHz, 434.221323 MHz, 434.212 MHz, 434.218471 MHz, 434.221228 MHz
[13:06] <daveake> The large heaters have a small outer balloon to make them spherical so they fit inside standard filling houses
[13:07] <daveake> Large hwoyees
[13:08] <fsphil> with extra woo
[13:08] <fsphil> ok now it's in the north sea
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[13:23] <fsphil> seeing the balloon in the shot is a bit alarming
[13:25] <daveake> It is odd
[13:25] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N0743859 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N0743859
[13:27] <fsphil> is steve's still transmitting? I'm not hearing anything from either
[13:28] <daveake> Hmmm
[13:29] <daveake> Nothing here for a while
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[13:35] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS41B - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS41B
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[13:39] <fsphil> got nothing on either
[13:40] <fsphil> oh looks like I'm not the only one
[13:41] <gonzo_> which freq?
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[13:45] <G0ATW> Tracking X2 with a beam suggesting it it off the east coast but it shows north of Weymouth on the map?
[13:52] <daveake> Sounds like it's coming down
[13:52] <Ron_G8FJG> deep qsb now on X2
[13:54] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_DFM09-616967 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_DFM09-616967
[13:55] <mattbrejza> why the large balloon?
[13:56] <daveake> 45289m ... eventually
[14:00] <PE2BZ> 434.210 mode 0 ?
[14:02] <Ron_G8FJG> .219 m0 for me
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[14:02] <PE2BZ> And it´s not really East of me ?
[14:03] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KD0HIP-7 after 0315 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD0HIP-7
[14:03] <Ron_G8FJG> west
[14:03] <PE2BZ> GPS error I assume ? Just came home.
[14:03] <Ron_G8FJG> guess so
[14:04] <fsphil> the balloon seems to have beaten up both trackers
[14:04] <PE2BZ> 434.219 decodes nicely indeed
[14:05] <daveake> Yeah
[14:05] <daveake> Steve's stores the max altitude which it did effectually report, but really without more evidence we can't claim that one.
[14:05] <daveake> Eventually ^
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[14:22] <Ron_G8FJG> when I lose it ..it will be around 1km high assuming 100 km range ish
[14:23] <Ron_G8FJG> first crc error
[14:23] <PE2BZ> I lost it 6 minutes ago estimated 5400 meter given my normal RX conditions
[14:24] <Ron_G8FJG> gone for me
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[14:25] <daveake> Cheers
[14:25] <daveake> Running a prediction
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[14:25] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03N4HCO-11 after 0318 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4HCO-11
[14:27] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KF9O-2 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KF9O-2
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[14:37] <daveake> Right, I've used the data points I know (last reported position, max alt reported, time I heard it descending and time I lost signal) to get a prediction. Off there now.
[14:38] <PE2BZ> Good luck !
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[15:01] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03W5LCY-7 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W5LCY-7
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[15:22] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P0930494 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P0930494
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[16:24] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KN4IUD-11 after 0313 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KN4IUD-11
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[16:40] <daveake> Have signal from X2 but still wrong GPS
[16:43] <ewanp> Dave, time for some old school DF, you did bring the Yagi?
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[16:48] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N2310657 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N2310657
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[17:08] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4021286 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4021286
[17:14] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03HABISRAEL - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HABISRAEL
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[17:40] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4430803 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4430803
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[17:56] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03M0RPI_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=M0RPI_chase
[17:59] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P2740240 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P2740240
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[18:35] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03HABISRAEL_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HABISRAEL_chase
[18:46] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_M2353033 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_M2353033
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[19:00] <daveake> X2 not recovered ... yet. Steve and I are going to have another attempt in the morning. I know pretty much where it is but not visible.
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[19:03] <PE2BZ> Sorry to hear. Hope better luck tomorrow !
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[19:09] <daveake> Ripped my jeans trying to get to it
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[19:10] <daveake> It is still transmitting (junk)
[19:10] <daveake> Found the area fairly easily from my prediction
[19:10] <daveake> Got the signal as we approached the prediction
[19:10] <daveake> So didn't have to drive round all the lanes
[19:11] <daveake> Then for a direction, drove to another spot and triangulated
[19:11] <daveake> Then got a ^
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[19:26] <HumanSheeple> Are you guys good with H2 generators to make balloons with?
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[20:18] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4010353 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4010353
[20:19] <chris_99> is it hard/easy to compress the H2 safely after making it?
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[20:23] <HumanSheeple> I don't know I have never tried, I only did HHO before you know Brown's gas
[20:24] <HumanSheeple> https://imgur.com/a/wrHnmoc
[20:24] <HumanSheeple> This is what I've made so far
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[20:26] <HumanSheeple> I understand so long as you get all the O2 out, it's safe to compress
[20:26] <HumanSheeple> H2 is very leaky
[20:28] <mattbrejza> im not sure youll end up saving much money over just buying a tank of it
[20:30] <craag> especially as the chemical industrial process boc uses to make it is a lot cheaper
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[20:41] <chris_99> do they use sodium hydroxide + aluminium, do you think, or..?
[20:43] <chris_99> hmm, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_production can't even see aluminium mentioned on there
[20:47] <chris_99> 'Today, hydrogen is mainly produced by steam reforming fossil fuels such as natural gas. ' i'm not fully sure what that means
[20:47] <HumanSheeple> I tried the NaOH +Al method you get far too much water vapor in the balloon
[20:48] <HumanSheeple> And you crack the wine bottle
[20:48] <chris_99> heh, it mentions in that wiki page the military use sodium hydroxide + ferrosilicon, for fast production someho
[20:48] <chris_99> and that's for balloon too
[20:49] <chris_99> interestingly
[20:50] <HumanSheeple> Where do you get ferrosillicon from?
[20:50] <chris_99> no idea sorry
[20:51] <HumanSheeple> I want to hook up my H2 generator to some DIY solar panels and car batteries
[20:51] <HumanSheeple> I'm also thinking about making my own Nickel Iron batteries to last longer
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[21:32] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_DFM09-17028042 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_DFM09-17028042
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[22:49] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N2310658 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N2310658
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[23:07] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IV3SRD-11 after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IV3SRD-11
[23:10] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P3520248 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P3520248
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[23:16] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4511325 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4511325
[23:17] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3910197 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3910197
[23:18] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P1620523 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P1620523
[23:20] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4120438 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4120438
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[23:29] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P2740469 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P2740469
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[23:33] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_L3813654 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_L3813654
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[23:42] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4430801 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4430801
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