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[07:14] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_DFM09-18050256 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_DFM09-18050256
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[07:58] <larsemil> Yo!
[07:59] <larsemil> I am preparing to buy stuff for first launch. Guessing 1500g payload and thinking of 6ft chute and a hwoyee 1000 balloon. What do you think?
[07:59] <SIbot> In real units: 6 ft = 1.83 m
[07:59] <larsemil> Also looking for good EU webshops.
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[08:00] <larsemil> Will use pi in the sky for communications
[08:00] <Darkside> http://habhub.org/calc/ for balloon sizing
[08:00] <larsemil> yeah i used that one
[08:01] <Darkside> and the calculator at the bottom of here for parachute sizing: http://www.randomengineering.co.uk/Random_Aerospace/Parachutes.html
[08:01] <Darkside> and no idea about EU webshops.
[08:01] <Darkside> i buy my balloons from random engineering
[08:01] <Darkside> and parachutes
[08:01] <daveake> 6' chute sounds too big
[08:01] <daveake> Check on http://www.randomengineering.co.uk/Random_Aerospace/Parachutes.html and aim for 5m/s landing
[08:01] <larsemil> Darkside: i dont get the randomenginerring chute calculator to work
[08:02] <daveake> Worked for me just now
[08:02] <Darkside> shrug
[08:02] <larsemil> in firefox the descent box does not show.
[08:02] <larsemil> in chrome i saw it
[08:02] <daveake> 42" or 48" chute will do you for 1.5kg
[08:02] <larsemil> cool thanks
[08:03] <larsemil> random enginerring does not carry radar reflectors?
[08:03] <Darkside> no legal requirement for them?
[08:04] <larsemil> in sweden it is... if i understood correctly
[08:04] <Darkside> might be required if you hit the 'medium' balloon ICAO class, but not for light
[08:04] <Darkside> but your coutries regs may differ...
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[08:06] <larsemil> yeah, in sweden and norway its needed.
[08:06] <larsemil> in sweden a permit is 1000¬ alone...
[08:08] <Darkside> if it needed, then you need to find out what exactly they mean by a 'radar reflector'
[08:08] <Darkside> because a bit of aluminium foil will reflector radar signals, but i'm betting (and hoping) they have some specification on radar cross section at a particular frequency
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[08:09] <larsemil> The balloon load must have a reflective surface, eg metal foil (to be visible on radar).
[08:09] <larsemil> The line should be marked with reflective strips.
[08:10] <Darkside> check those requirements are for the ballon size category you are launching in
[08:10] <Darkside> that sounds similar to the 'medium balloon' requirements
[08:12] <larsemil> will check.
[08:12] <larsemil> but i think that is the case
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[08:13] <Darkside> odd
[08:13] <mfa298> does you payload really need to be that heavy (or is that just a quick guess) ?
[08:14] <larsemil> it is a quick guess.
[08:14] <larsemil> rpi + pi in the sky + battery + go pro + casing + chute + reflector
[08:14] <larsemil> + a dala horse
[08:18] <mfa298> it might be worth checking the requirments for lower weights and where the change is. You might find if you can get the weight down a bit the requirments get easier.
[08:19] <larsemil> i have sent an email to swedish transportstyrelsen and will see.
[08:19] <Darkside> surely these requirements should be codified and available online somewhere
[08:19] <larsemil> but i find nothing about different categories on their page as the smallest seems to be "unmanned balloon with light payload"
[08:19] <larsemil> https://www.transportstyrelsen.se/sv/luftfart/flygplatser-flygtrafiktjanst-och-luftrum/Luftrum/Ballonger/
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[08:20] <daveake> Certainly for the UK if you get above the limits for a "small" balloon, then life gets 100x more complicated
[08:21] <Darkside> hmm
[08:22] <Darkside> yep that page is pretty final
[08:23] <larsemil> so i need a reflector as well. :)
[08:26] <mfa298> You might want to talk to the authorities in advance as well, seeing the bit about needing to communicate the position and height at least every 15 minutes you might need to find out how that has to be done - they might be happy to just watch the tracker map but you might find they need you to run some specific tracking hardware.
[08:26] <Darkside> yeah thats an interesting one
[08:26] <larsemil> i have had some contacts with the before and they are not that difficult to communicate with. but yes.
[08:27] <daveake> For ¬1000 to allow a launch I'd be pretty east to communicate with too
[08:27] <daveake> easy
[08:27] <larsemil> we are thinking of doing it in norway. same regulations but permit is free. (you still need it though)
[08:27] Action: daveake considers reselling CAA permissions :p
[08:28] <daveake> Yeah sounds like a plan
[08:28] <daveake> Just make sure it stays that side of the border
[08:28] <larsemil> the one place you are allowed to send it up in sweden is 3hours by car. norway is the same.
[08:28] <larsemil> well thanks for all input
[08:28] <larsemil> i dont know if i am any wiser. ;)
[08:29] <daveake> oh, and try to avoid landing in tree. Easier said than done there though!
[08:29] <larsemil> we would never do such a newbie misstake. we would plan for that in advance
[08:29] <daveake> We had a Sweden flight 2-3 years ago ... launched with no testing, into a huge forest
[08:30] <daveake> Landed in a lake. A frozen lake. Next to a skier.
[08:30] <larsemil> there are some forests in sweden.
[08:30] <daveake> Luck was on his side that day
[08:32] <larsemil> people get hurt even though you have a parachute?
[08:36] <daveake> No, it landed on ice
[08:36] <daveake> My point was that he shouldn't have launched, and was very lucky to get it back
[08:36] <larsemil> ah. i get it. i thought the skiier was the lucky one. :)
[08:36] <daveake> hah no :)
[08:39] <larsemil> go pro or rpi camera or both? :)
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[08:42] <daveake> GoPro is better quality, has that lens distortion which you may or may not like, and is heavier
[08:43] <daveake> For £1000 to launch, I'd put everything in there :)
[08:43] <larsemil> cool. :)
[08:43] <larsemil> so when i mess up its not only 1000¬, its also stuff worth the same again. ;)
[08:43] <daveake> why not :)
[08:44] <daveake> There are plenty of GoPro-like cameras that cost a lot less
[08:44] <larsemil> i know. this is a kids youth project so i will get some funding
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[08:54] <larsemil> i guess i will order that hwoyee 1000 and a 48in chute.
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[08:56] <daveake> If it does find a tree, a 42" will be less area to get snagged, and higher speed so more likely to find a way past the branches, so I'd go for that :)
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[08:57] <larsemil> ok cool
[08:58] <larsemil> done!
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[10:32] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N0840264 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N0840264
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[10:55] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4130651 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4130651
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[13:21] <mitchellleary> Hi, I'm very new here and I am looking for anyone who has experience with floater balloon projects as I am currently planning my own.
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[13:26] <mitchellleary> Is there anyone here who has experience with floater balloon projects and circumnavigation? I've got a few questions and any additional advice would be welcomed
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[13:47] <Ian__> mitchellleary Mostly, if not always, circumnavigation results from a series of launches as the launcher gains experience and refines designs.
[13:49] <Ian__> Leo and the B1 to B66 were classic examples of progressive development. I guess with the experience of others you will be able to shorten the sequence somewhat, but it's still going to be a bit of a progressive thing. Lots of fun as the goals come into being though.
[13:53] <mitchellleary> Thanks Ian__. I am fully expecting it to be a heavy learning experience with lots of failures and progression as you say. I was just looking for some answers to some of my basic questions which may be easy for someone with experience to advise on.
[13:55] <Ian__> I have no first hand experience, but have read the channel comprehensively for the last five years or so and there is nothing that attracts others than an ongoing conversation. So feel free to ask and if I look like getting it wrong, then someone else will surely pick up on it and put me right.
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[14:01] <TT7> mitchellleary: I launched a few superpressure balloons last year, although none of them made it all the way around
[14:04] <mitchellleary> I'm following loosely the Bristol SEDS plans as they completed some circumnavigations so that will be a good place to start. My project has a specific focus which is to try and influence the direction of trajectory of the balloon. I don't know if this is possible or how to achieve this but it will be fun trying. Any advice would be gratefully received
[14:05] <mitchellleary> I originally thought that some sort of sail set up may guide the direction of the balloon but have been told that this wouldn't work. I don't know what you're thoughts are?
[14:08] <Ian__> You are very much going to be going with the prevailing winds at the float altitude.
[14:09] <mitchellleary> Yes, I know that the general direction will fully be with the prevailing winds, I was wondering if there is any way to gently guide the trajectory north or south as it is propelled by the winds?
[14:09] <Ian__> Some directionality could be influenced by the active selection of altitude, but that's best left to big budget outfits like Google :)
[14:10] <mitchellleary> Or will the trajectory always be random?
[14:10] <TT7> I haven't thought of actively influencing the trajectory through out the flight myself, but ideas discussed here I can recall generally dealt with changing the balloons altitude to get it float in different wind layers
[14:10] <TT7> Ian__ beat me to it
[14:11] <Ian__> Essentially no. It is possible, but suddenly you are out of the class you are seeking to be in, which is featherweight as far as possible.
[14:12] <mitchellleary> So anything that could be added to influence would increase the weight too much?
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[14:14] <Ian__> From what I have deduced, the envelope of choice is the primary influencer, followed by the package itself. Over time, that seems to pan out as custom envelope and solar and wspr low power comms or otherwise.
[14:16] <Ian__> All very technically mind boggling. I believe that SEDS4 was a transparent balloon, but not custom(?)
[14:16] <Ian__> It's not a race TT7, your contribution is always welcome.
[14:18] <Ian__> In fact, in my mind at least, that transparent Chinese sourced balloon seemed to be destined as the GOTO replacement for the Qualtex foil party balloon for off the shelf float envelopes.
[14:18] <mitchellleary> I will be creating a custom balloon and setup as it happens so as you said previously, I think it will be a hit and miss learning experience at times. For the way to influence the direction of the balloon, I wasn't thinking of anything mechanical and heavy or power-hungry, more like "wings" or "sails" that could slightly direct the flight-path over time so that the path on the map for example, would gently curve north or
[14:19] <mitchellleary> Something that would work with the winds without any additional power requirement
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[14:24] <Ian__> The balloon will pretty much follow the wind. Tacking like a yacht might be a new experience, but I guess would mostly affect rotational speed of the system if the atmosphere was dense enough to be really useful.
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[14:25] <mitchellleary> Exactly. Atmosphere density however, would be one of my concerns. Whether or not it would render the sail useless. I don't know if anyone here could have a definitive answer on that?
[14:25] <Ian__> Most people would rather be able to stabilise their packages, rather than impart spin . . . Tongue in cheek, Bernoulli effect. Spin to impart movement :)
[14:28] <mfa298> I can't see that a sail would give any steerability.
[14:28] <mfa298> your balloon will effectively end up travelling at the same speed as the wind layer it's sitting in
[14:28] <Ian__> I think variable superpressure to be able to effect altitude changes, but that either requires pre-knowledge of where, or communications. Both rather large asks.
[14:29] <Ian__> mfa298, but it would look good if you got the colours right :)
[14:29] <mitchellleary> haha
[14:30] <mfa298> googles steering works on the principle of adjusting the height of the balloon so it picks up different wind layers which gives a level of control over it's direction - (but it's still not full control)
[14:30] <Ian__> Sails and other stuff would also put you outside the micro/unregulated class of balloons
[14:31] <mitchellleary> It's an interesting conundrum thought right? "Is there a way to influence the trajectory of a balloon?"
[14:32] <mfa298> I startd half wondering if an aerodynamic wing could be used for any sort of steering, but I think that would rely on the wind going at a different speed to the baloon and being able to point it neither of which are going to be easy (if even possible)
[14:32] <Ian__> Trajectory influencer ... NKorean flak
[14:34] Nick change: pe2bz_ -> PE2BZ
[14:34] <mitchellleary> Would the wind impart any force on the back side of the balloon? If so, a wing of some sort may work
[14:35] <Ian__> Wings are relative devices, The balloon travels at the speed of the wind essentially.
[14:35] Action: cm13g09 waves at mfa298
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[14:36] <Ian__> Waving might affect the trajectory :)
[14:36] <Ian__> of a smile
[14:37] Action: PE2BZ waves to all balloons flying around
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[14:39] <mitchellleary> I think maybe, it might just be necessary to test various designs and ideas, and analyse the results to see whether there is any influence or not. It'll be the only way to know for sure.
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[14:41] <mfa298> the simplistic approach to determining that it probably isn't possible is the fact Google don't try using sails or wings. If it was a reasonable idea why aren't they doing it ?
[14:42] <Ian__> One of my first comments suggested, it's an incremental process . . . some of the conversations are bound to be, or seem, circular.
[14:42] <mfa298> otherwise think about what makes a balloon move and how fast it moves. Then consider how sails and wings work.
[14:43] <TT7> in the end, you can launch two otherwise identical balloons at the same time. one with a sail one without, and compare their trajectories
[14:43] <Ian__> They are relative devices. Bob's your uncle and Fanny's your aunt :)
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[14:46] <TT7> there have been simultaneous latex balloon launches, but I don't recall any supperpresure ones. it would be interesting to see the impact on trajectories in the range of days.
[14:48] <Ian__> It would be difficult to quantify, I suggest, as rotation would tend to nullify the effect you are looking at, but also slow the rotational moment of course.
[14:49] <Ian__> s/looking at/looking for/
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[17:53] <PE2BZ> !whereis bss-18
[17:53] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: I haven't got a clue
[17:54] <PE2BZ> !track bss-18
[17:54] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Here you go - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=bss-18
[17:54] <SA6BSS-Mike> no bss18 up
[17:54] <PE2BZ> Ahh it was not real ;-)
[17:55] <SA6BSS-Mike> probaly no more lauches this year
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[17:55] <PE2BZ> ok. Fired up 2 wspr receivers this morning but not a sign
[17:56] <PE2BZ> So I thought whereis it.
[17:56] <SA6BSS-Mike> weather not good and around 10:th oct the solar angle starts to be quite low so if there is no sun and calm weather before that , im waiting for the spring
[17:56] <SA6BSS-Mike> now off to the tellie
[17:56] <PE2BZ> understood.
[17:56] <PE2BZ> tnx info and bye bye
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[20:54] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_DFM09-17027735 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_DFM09-17027735
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[20:59] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_M2343251 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_M2343251
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[22:58] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3950290 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3950290
[23:02] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P0350058 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P0350058
[23:07] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IV3SRD-11 after 039 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IV3SRD-11
[23:16] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P2630520 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P2630520
[23:17] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4440777 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4440777
[23:18] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P1750712 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P1750712
[23:19] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3910264 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3910264
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[23:21] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3710683 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3710683
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[23:27] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3930639 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3930639
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[23:31] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P0910241 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P0910241
[23:34] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_L2823827 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_L2823827
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[23:36] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4430542 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4430542
[23:38] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P2220822 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P2220822
[23:39] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P0950231 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P0950231
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[23:56] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P0610692 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P0610692
[23:58] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P1840049 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P1840049
[23:59] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P2740472 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P2740472
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