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[12:32] <Babs_> Afternoon everyone - I have isolated a problem in my program which sees the atmega328 resetting every time I try to run snprintf or sprint f to construct a transmission string in the manner described in part 2 here
[12:32] <Babs_> https://ukhas.org.uk/guides:linkingarduinotontx2
[12:33] <Babs_> It's part of a larger program that is transmitting between a few lora transmitters, but the snprintf / sprint f bit is largely the same
[12:34] <Babs_> it looks as if somehow the snprintf or sprintf is stomping on memory somewhere (if I cut out either the snprintf OR sprintf the program hangs, not just resets)
[12:35] <craag> Either you're overflowing the buffer and overwriting ram, or you're running of of ram for your stack. Can you post the code?
[12:35] <Babs_> However, the sketch is only 20kb, and the RAM usage is 1.2kb, so nowhere near the limits, which is puzzling
[12:35] <Babs_> Hey craag - good to hear from you
[12:35] <craag> Hmm running out does sound unlikely then, although still possible depending what else you're doing.
[12:35] <Babs_> The code is on my laptop at home, so I can post it later
[12:36] <Babs_> I am just trying to work out the best way of diagnosing it
[12:36] <Babs_> I have cut back the amount being constructed, in case it was a length issue
[12:37] <craag> Note that the 'RAM usage' is only the ram that is allocated to global vars and such. Any vars or buffers declared in functions (including internally in sprintf) don't appear in that figure as they get allocated when the function is called, but still need space.
[12:37] <daveake> It'll be RAM. It's always RAM :)
[12:37] <Babs_> Also cut back the posting of any variables outside of the name of the transmitter ie. the "RTTY TEST BEACON RTTY TEST BEACON" in the above example, in case there was an error in the way I was writing the variables
[12:38] <daveake> Well not always as craag said you migh have an out of bounds index or a dodgy pointer.
[12:38] <Babs_> Hey daveake - all the old regulars on today!
[12:38] <daveake> heh
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[12:38] <daveake> I've been doing RTTY this week so it feels like old times!
[12:39] <Babs_> As an aside, I'm doing sort of what you did with your lora inter balloon communication a few years ago
[12:39] <daveake> nice
[12:39] <daveake> I keep meaning to fly an SSDV repeater
[12:39] <Babs_> Have been able to use the timepulse signal on the ublox to get the time signal co-ordination down to a millisecond between separate boards
[12:39] <daveake> I did fly it once but Indian rubber QC landed it before it got where it was supposed to go
[12:40] <daveake> Nice yeah I've always used wide windows and rough timing
[12:40] <Babs_> which has lowered the window to 1 second
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[12:41] <daveake> Useful
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[12:44] <Babs_> Trying and failing to get a vid up
[12:45] <Babs_> Anyway, (I guess) there is a way to effectively bypass sprintf (or at least build it up incrementally) by writing each element of the array line by line?
[12:46] <Babs_> clunky, won't do anything in terms of lowering the size of the sketch but at least I can test it incrementally
[12:46] <Babs_> is that the best way to go do you think?
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[12:48] <Babs_> PS I have already made all the variables global to try and accurately assess how much memory the entire sketch is using
[12:48] <Babs_> There is a LOT of stuff going to progmem but as the name suggests, I don't think that can be affecting the RAM usage
[12:51] <edmoore> new project Babs_ ?
[12:52] <craag> Babs_: If you want to post the code privately somewhere and PM me a link, I'm happy to take a look when I get a chance.
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[12:53] <Babs__> Dropped off there - eroomde, how goes it?
[12:53] <Babs__> Newish project, have been working on it a lot but not much time to go on IRC these days
[12:54] <edmoore> what is it?
[12:54] <Babs__> Eclipse project was fun, I still have to write it up but it started and finished in Wyoming, balloon was lost (fouled line that caused an unscheduled cutdown)
[12:55] <Babs__> found the parachute, needed to go back to Denver that day, and used the telemetry and the balloon position to work out an ellipse that the package could have landed in
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[12:55] <Babs__> found a local science teacher who went out on a dirt bike and went out and found it in lots of tiny pieces with an intact SD card in the camera
[12:56] <Babs__> successful failure etc
[12:56] <edmoore> pics?
[12:57] <Babs__> I have a sequence of stills and have a contact at Framestore who was going to interpolate them to make them into a timelapse but then had a baby
[12:57] <edmoore> but just raw stuff from the sd card - is it promising?
[12:58] <Babs__> I've got them linked up on a powerpoint file if you have a link for me to upload. Happy to share.
[12:59] <Babs__> I made one error in terms of balloon lift / helium in forgetting i was already a mile and a half in the air
[12:59] <Babs__> so it got off the ground 30 mins late
[13:00] <Babs__> the new project is a series of long duration floaters lora-ing (not a verb) to each other
[13:00] <Babs__> sorry, got a call, back in 15
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[13:10] <edmoore> awesome Babs__
[13:11] <Babs__> Did you get it?
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[13:23] <Babs__> Here is the lora transmitter/receiver in question. Well, 4 separate breadboarded transmitter/receivers (albeit on 2 breadboards, they are 4 separate computers). The synchronisation clocks on all 4 set independently of each other using the timepulse on the ublox. Green LED shows that that computer is transmitting, Red LED shows that that computer is listening, and the brief blue flashes indicate that a message has successfully be
[13:23] <Babs__> https://flic.kr/p/28fow7L
[13:23] <Babs__> Now, if only I can work out this snprintf memory issue it is basically done and I can PCB it up
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[13:31] <craag> Babs__: Incase you missed it earlier: If you want to post the code privately somewhere and PM me a link, I'm happy to take a look when I get a chance.
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[13:37] <Babs__> ok, that would be great craag - will be back later and do it. Thank you, I appreciate it
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[13:38] <Babs__> the irc kicked me off earlier so i didnt see your message
[13:41] <Babs__> just as a quick thought, and I am 99% sure this is not the case, but the code is posted on multiple tabs for ease of scrolling in the arduino IDE. In that sense the array that holds the variables eventually used by the sprintf is held in a separate tab (and technically a separate file). I don't think that should be an issue, because other variables behave normally, but I thought i would state that just in case
[13:45] <craag> If you're not getting fatal compiler errors then that's working fine :)
[13:45] <Babs__> yes, no compiler errors whatsoever
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[15:03] <fsphil> Babs__: are you using -Wall and -pedantic ? :)
[15:08] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KG5IFR after 0314 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KG5IFR
[15:08] <Babs__> ? Don't understand
[15:09] <fsphil> there's always more compiler warnings/errors if you want them
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[15:10] <craag> hard mode: https://github.com/uos3/obc-firmware/blob/master/src/board/uos3-proto/Makefile#L104-L117
[15:11] <craag> in a related note, our firmware interns don't like me much ;)
[15:13] <fsphil> excellent
[15:13] <fsphil> there are a few in there I don't recognise. might try them, and weep
[15:15] <craag> those are the list of best usefulness-vs-annoyance ratio that we came up with at my previous job for embedded c work.
[15:16] <craag> some force you to be quite explicit with casts, and can prevent some legal operations, but we did find it improved the readability.
[15:16] <PE2BZ> !whereis my stock of pi-zero┬┤s
[15:16] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: I haven't got a clue
[15:17] <Babs__> ahhh, I see what you mean
[15:17] <Babs__> I have detailed compiler error settings thing on
[15:17] <Babs__> doesn't show an issue
[15:17] <craag> good work Babs__ :)
[15:17] <fsphil> doing it right
[15:18] <day> -Wnone
[15:18] <day> hardcore mode :p
[15:19] <craag> debugging memory corruption with -O3 #yolo
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[15:19] <fsphil> pfft, just don't write any bugs
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[15:19] <craag> ah, -Wbug, I always forget that one
[15:21] <Babs__> well, clearly doing it wrong somewhere along the line but I get your drift. I started it when trying to decipher what was going wrong with the radiohead library i was using to drive the loras
[15:25] <Babs__> craag, see pm
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[16:11] <kokey> are there newer betterer lora modules out there over the past year?
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[16:12] <kokey> just wondering if I should wire the ones up I bought a year ago and didn't get around to
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[16:18] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VA7GL-9 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VA7GL-9
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[17:10] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3710240 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3710240
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[17:39] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4411038 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4411038
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[18:42] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SP6ZWR-10 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP6ZWR-10
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[19:10] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N2310525 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N2310525
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[19:16] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SP6ZWR - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP6ZWR
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[19:32] <michal_f_home> !flights
[19:32] <SpacenearUS> 03michal_f_home: Current flights: 03ZBR007-1 10(2d2e)
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[19:50] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_M2513238 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_M2513238
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[21:11] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_DFM09-17028182 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_DFM09-17028182
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[23:07] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IV3SRD-11 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IV3SRD-11
[23:12] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P0930700 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P0930700
[23:16] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_M4010072 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_M4010072
[23:16] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N2430443 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N2430443
[23:17] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3850228 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3850228
[23:17] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P1750722 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P1750722
[23:18] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3920567 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3920567
[23:20] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3710225 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3710225
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[23:22] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3820662 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3820662
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[23:24] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P0530090 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P0530090
[23:26] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P3010633 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P3010633
[23:36] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_L2733045 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_L2733045
[23:36] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P1030077 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P1030077
[23:38] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4411036 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4411036
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[23:43] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P0251009 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P0251009
[23:44] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P0420125 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P0420125
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