highaltitude.log.20180822

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[00:07] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4440939 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4440939
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[00:55] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N2240665 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N2240665
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[02:40] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N2043279 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N2043279
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[03:35] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BSS18 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BSS18
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[03:50] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_DFM09-17008569 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_DFM09-17008569
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[04:20] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_DFM09-18021640 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_DFM09-18021640
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[04:54] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P0950820 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P0950820
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[05:08] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4840110 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4840110
[05:39] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P1750875 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P1750875
[05:40] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4420312 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4420312
[06:00] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N2240666 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N2240666
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[06:38] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P0710787 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P0710787
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[06:50] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_DFM09-17008864 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_DFM09-17008864
[07:20] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_DFM09-17008491 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_DFM09-17008491
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[07:56] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N2050647 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N2050647
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[08:15] <AndyEsser> oo launch today, and for once I'm back in my office with my radios and might actually have a chance of maybe tracking it
[08:16] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_DFM09-17008543 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_DFM09-17008543
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[08:40] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SITS-3 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SITS-3
[08:43] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PIAVR2 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PIAVR2
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[08:47] <dl2ecy> hallo hier bin ich
[08:47] <PE2BZ> Gutenmorgen, ich auch :-)
[08:47] <dl2ecy> guten morgen auch
[08:47] <PE2BZ> Gibt es Probleme mit dem Payload doc order mit dem Flight doc oder etwas anderes ?
[08:48] <dl2ecy> jaein, erst einmal zu den payloads. Wir wollen eine modifizierte RS-41 Sonde nutzen auf 434.375 MHz
[08:48] <dl2ecy> Der Eintrag ist nicht das Problem
[08:49] <dl2ecy> zusätzlich geht noch APRS mit auf 144.800 ... Wo kann ich dieses zusätzlich noch eintragen ?
[08:49] <PE2BZ> APRS im separaten Gerät ?
[08:49] <PE2BZ> Dem RS41 kann auch APRS im 70 cm senden
[08:50] <dl2ecy> einmal APRS 432.500 / RTTY mit RS-41
[08:50] <PE2BZ> Wenn wir RS41 fliegen dann bekommen wir APRS daten wenn die Ballon höher ist wie 1000 m,
[08:50] <dl2ecy> und 144.800 mit einem anderen gerät
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[08:52] <PE2BZ> Ich denke das es moglich ist APRS für ihrer Flug nahme ein zu schalten zu lassen.
[08:52] <PE2BZ> Does anyone know if it´s necesaary to have APRS enabled somehow in payload/ flight doc or asking in habhub ?
[08:53] <fsphil> guten morgen
[08:53] <PE2BZ> Guten Morgen :-)
[08:53] <fsphil> APRS bypasses habhub entirely, it goes straight to the map
[08:53] <dl2ecy> guten morgen
[08:53] <fsphil> er, bypasses habitat*
[08:53] <PE2BZ> dl2exy das Problem ist aufgelöst :-)
[08:53] <fsphil> but by default it will only see flights that go above a certain altitude, unless you ask for it to be tracked
[08:54] <fsphil> in #habhub
[08:54] <dl2ecy> ja, aprs hat eigentlich nichts zu tun mit habhub .. wollte es aber wohl eintragen damit man es sieht dass es qrv ist
[08:55] <dl2ecy> die daten von aprs gehen ja direkt nach aprs.fi
[08:56] <dl2ecy> welche parameter sind gut für rtty ?
[08:56] <PE2BZ> Darf ich fragen die Frequenz für RTTY auf 12.5 kHz höher ein zu stellen ? Es gibt, sicher im Holland, viele Remote sender, welcher auf z.b. 434.350, 434.375 , 434,400 senden. RTTY dort zwischen (434.3625, 434.3875, 434.4125) sind hier viel besser zu empfangen
[08:57] <dl2ecy> ok, guter hinweis .. kein problem
[08:57] <PE2BZ> Für RTTY is 75 bd 540 7n2 gut. 100 bd gibt etwas mehr fehler beim empfang, 50 bd dauert lang....
[08:58] <PE2BZ> Mit Energizer batterien bekommt man einer dauer von ungefehr 12 stunden TX mit 5000 mS zwischem dem RTTY strings
[08:58] <dl2ecy> ok, ich hatte mir auch schon an 75 bd gedacht
[08:59] <dl2ecy> ich habe mal hier die sonde auf 100bd laufen lassen mit meinem call und mit fldigi empfangen
[08:59] <PE2BZ> Kauf keiner billiger Lithium batterien (Hab mit Jupio geflogen im RS41 und Pi Zero aber beider haben probleme gegeben)
[08:59] <dl2ecy> da fehlte am anfang immer der erste buchstabe von meinem call - die aussendung fing immer an mit
[08:59] <dl2ecy> l2ecy .......
[09:00] <PE2BZ> Wass war dem Empfanger ? Icom mit AGC slow ?
[09:00] <dl2ecy> kleines handgerät - kenwood
[09:00] <PE2BZ> oder dem sql im fldigi eingeschaltet ?
[09:01] <dl2ecy> oh ja, das kann sein dass sql aktiv war !
[09:01] <dl2ecy> wie schnell geht so eine freischaltung ? der flug soll schon am freitag sein
[09:01] <dl2ecy> aber es sieht nicht gut mit dem wind aus
[09:02] <dl2ecy> muss vielleicht verschoben werden auf nächste woche
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[09:04] <dl2ecy> kennst du die rs-41 sonden ?
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[09:10] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_DFM09-17008888 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_DFM09-17008888
[09:16] <dl2ecy> bist du noch da ?
[09:17] <PE2BZ> War nach dem Túr, SSD ist dort :-)
[09:18] <dl2ecy> aha, wie gross ?
[09:18] <PE2BZ> 1 TB, wie dem HDD nun ist.
[09:18] <dl2ecy> oh, das ist viel ... aber schnell !
[09:18] <PE2BZ> Die erste, war einer 256 GB im Karton einer 1 TB :-(
[09:19] <dl2ecy> das ist natürlich nicht gut ...
[09:19] <dl2ecy> eine frage noch .. wie schnell wird ein flug freigeschaltet
[09:19] <PE2BZ> Wir nutzen RS41 für HAB , wir bekommen sie von Funkamateure aus Holland, eingesammelt von das KNMI oder die DWD
[09:21] <PE2BZ> Wenn du alles recht hat gemacht und dem Payload empanges ist mit GPS fix, meistens im einer Stunde. Im #habhub dem payload doc einfugen, mit Kommentar ¨testing¨ und wenn es ¨last parsed¨ etwas anderes dan ¨never¨ gibt, dem Flightdoc fertig machen, das code im #habhub einfugen und wenn alles gut aussieht fragen Please Approve
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[09:25] <dl2ecy> aber wo kann ich - als hinweis - die aprs daten eintragen ?
[09:26] <PE2BZ> Im Google Groups ukhas kann mann dem Fluginfo geben. Dort kann mann APRS frequenzen und zum beispiel LoRa einstellungen sagen.
[09:26] <dl2ecy> z.b. als description
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[09:29] <PE2BZ> Indertat
[09:30] <PE2BZ> Wenn nötwendig kann ich ubersetzen von Deutscher sprache nach Enlischer sprache
[09:30] <dl2ecy> ich glaube ich habe was gefunden wo ich es eintragen kann
[09:30] <dl2ecy> ich werde das einmal testen
[09:30] <dl2ecy> bist du hier immer online wenn ich noch fragen habe ?
[09:31] <PE2BZ> immer.... Ferien bis Samstag :-) Dann wieder zuruck zum arbeit aber meistens jeden tag bin ich online
[09:31] <PE2BZ> Und es gibt viele Andere welcher (nicht im Deutsch) antworten haben fur ihrer Fragen
[09:32] <dl2ecy> ok, danke erst einmal für die infos
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[09:33] <PE2BZ> Gern gemacht :-)
[09:34] <PE2BZ> Es ist möglich einer Pi Zero mit camera und Batterien im einer RS41 gehause zu camouflieren :-)
[09:34] <PE2BZ> Ist der RS41 einer hard plastic oder einer foam gehause ?
[09:34] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P1750869 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P1750869
[09:34] <dl2ecy> aha, interessant , eine CAM fliegt auch mit aber keine online bilder
[09:34] <PE2BZ> Wir fliegen RS41 meistens ohne dem hard plastic cover
[09:35] <PE2BZ> http://ssdv.habhub.org/PI0-BZ/2018-07-15
[09:35] <dl2ecy> die sonde ist ausgebaut... nur die platine in einem anderen foam gehäuse
[09:36] <PE2BZ> Denke an etwas raum zwischen GPS rx antennen und TX antennen !
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[09:37] <PE2BZ> Das war https://photos.app.goo.gl/NBiTwEjpV2HxaRU6A
[09:37] <dl2ecy> ja, das machen wir ... sehr schöne bilder übrigens ! gelandet in einem solar-park ?
[09:38] <PE2BZ> Im plastic gehause dem Pi zero mit 10 Euro camera, im foam dem RS41 wie backup tracker. Beim letzter Flug haben wir beider separiert, 2 m aus einander, weil es beim beider GPS fehler gegeben hat.
[09:39] <PE2BZ> Nein, kein solar-park, einer Ferien park https://www.google.com/maps/place/Oesterdam,+Tholen/@51.5009474,4.1866118,2118m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x47c46e84751b404b:0xfa8a729a25f6319d!8m2!3d51.4875651!4d4.1978126
[09:39] <day> Was ist denn hier los :D
[09:39] <PE2BZ> Gutentag, heute gibt es einer Kurs fur anderszaligen.... ;-)
[09:40] <dl2ecy> aber seher nahe am wasser
[09:40] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SGTDK - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SGTDK
[09:41] <PE2BZ> Es hat auf 200 m höhe dem wind 180 graden gedreht. Wenn das nicht passiert ware hatter er im Wasser verschwunden gewesen
[09:42] <dl2ecy> ja, viel glück gehabt ! aber das kann passieren
[09:44] <PE2BZ> Die erster Pi Zero flug hatte dem linse abgedeckt beim flug....
[09:44] <PE2BZ> Aber bit jetzt aller Camera und bilder zuruck bekommen.
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[09:44] <PE2BZ> Möglich im wochenende noch einer :-)
[09:45] <dl2ecy> ist es in den NL auch so kompliziert eionen flug anzumelden ?
[09:45] <PE2BZ> Kompliziert ? Nein, ganz nicht....
[09:45] <dl2ecy> viele genehmigungen und versicherung
[09:46] <PE2BZ> Wenn < 2 m auf sealevel, < 2 kg und gebremmst auf < 5 m/s und > 8 km von Flughaven darf ich nichts zu fragen und können wir fliegen.
[09:47] <PE2BZ> Versicherung denke ich das es einer Hobby ist und ich hab keiner separater versicherung.
[09:48] <dl2ecy> hier muss man eine versicherung haben !
[09:48] <PE2BZ> Und was kostet das ?
[09:48] <dl2ecy> das haben andere gemacht .. ich glaube das waren ca. 80 EUR
[09:49] <dl2ecy> hast du noch eine tip welche parameter bei der sonde aktiv sein sollen ?
[09:49] <PE2BZ> Für ukhas groups ?
[09:50] <dl2ecy> nein, habhub
[09:51] <dl2ecy> z.b. battery voltage ?
[09:51] <dl2ecy> oder soll man das deaktivieren ?
[09:52] <PE2BZ> battery voltage is ¨necessary¨ for debugging :-)
[09:52] <dl2ecy> ok
[09:53] <dl2ecy> ich bekomme die 434.3875 nicht eingegeben ... out of range
[09:53] <PE2BZ> 434.387
[09:54] <dl2ecy> ja das klappt .. hatte ich schon probiert
[09:54] <dl2ecy> und das ist dann ok ?
[09:55] <PE2BZ> Es ist moglich ¨existing¨ und PI6WL-bakcup zu selektieren, meister data soll stimmen ? neuer nahme geben und speicher
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[09:59] <dl2ecy> so, ich muss noch etwas anderes machen . bis ein anderes mal wieder
[09:59] <PE2BZ> Wiederhoren !
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[10:08] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P1050918 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P1050918
[10:10] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_DFM09-17008700 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_DFM09-17008700
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[10:59] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P0950815 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P0950815
[11:01] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DF0AVH-15 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DF0AVH-15
[11:07] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N2120023 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N2120023
[11:10] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03HULLABOT - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HULLABOT
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[11:16] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_DFM09-17002884 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_DFM09-17002884
[11:21] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3820114 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3820114
[11:27] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3910641 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3910641
[11:28] Nick change: gonzo__ -> gonzo_
[11:31] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4010715 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4010715
[11:31] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P0940244 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P0940244
[11:32] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P2620989 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P2620989
[11:34] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4510107 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4510107
[11:35] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_L2743712 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_L2743712
[11:39] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P1730635 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P1730635
[12:05] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4420324 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4420324
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[12:21] <PB0AHX-Herman> !flights
[12:21] <SpacenearUS> 03PB0AHX-Herman: Current flights: 03HG8LXIR 10(5dc0)
[12:21] <PB0AHX-Herman> !dial 5dc0
[12:21] <SpacenearUS> 03PB0AHX-Herman: Latest dials for 03HG8LXIR 10(5dc0): none
[12:21] Last message repeated 1 time(s).
[12:21] <Ian_> You were keeping Google translate busy there PE2BZ - the cost of my being nosey :)
[12:39] <PE2BZ> Ian_ Gern gemacht :-) (That´s ¨My Pleasure¨ )
[12:42] <PE2BZ> I have been translator for the magazine ¨Tele Satellite¨ where most of the articles had their origin in Germany (Christian Mass) and we had 10 day deadline each 2 months
[12:43] <Ian_> Bedanked PE2BZ :) Google Translate does a very good job these days. I remember "Babel", it was atrocious back around 2002. Context seems to be better nowadays. Big leap forward.
[12:46] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P0650407 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P0650407
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[12:53] <PE2BZ> Ian_ that was the time that Lennart & Hauspie did offer a 5 EUro version of the speech to text convertor. Worked quite good till the first born started to argue with me and the screen ended up with bla bla grl grl da da ;-)
[12:55] <daveake> Does it understand you now though ?
[12:56] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_DFM09-17008870 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_DFM09-17008870
[12:56] <PE2BZ> Nowadays I type 240 characters per minute. My son is 16 years old now, does better English conversation and ignores me most of the day :-)
[12:59] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DF0AVH - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DF0AVH
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[13:02] <AndyEsser> pretty sure there is very little chance of me receiving SGTDK.... :D
[13:03] <PE2BZ> Why is that ?
[13:03] <daveake> Not a great prediction that
[13:04] <PE2BZ> rx green 25 km before the blue line
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[13:07] <AndyEsser> PE2BZ: I'm in the opposite direction to travel, and in a valley :D
[13:08] <PE2BZ> Sorry ;-)
[13:08] <AndyEsser> and without an SDR I can't easily see if the frequency has drifted
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[13:12] <fsphil> pfft. back in MY day we had no newfangled SDRs and wideband waterfalls. we tuned around for the signal until we heard it, or started hearing things in the noise.
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[13:14] <chris_99> haha
[13:14] <fsphil> "yeah I think I hear it now" -- while tuned 100khz too low
[13:14] <daveake> using a specially tuned pringles can held to the ear ?
[13:17] <AndyEsser> fsphil: lol
[13:18] <AndyEsser> I'm about half-way between green and blue atm
[13:18] <fsphil> cyan
[13:18] <AndyEsser> not expecting much until I'm within green tbh with the little whip antenna the FT817 came with
[13:20] <AndyEsser> I should find a nearby mountain and drive up it :P
[13:20] <fsphil> still outside blue here. no point in trying
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[13:22] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SGTDUCK_Chase_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SGTDUCK_Chase_chase
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[13:27] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_DFM09-17006575 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_DFM09-17006575
[13:32] <PE2BZ> Good afternoon Robert.
[13:33] <AndyEsser> come on Green Circle!
[13:33] <PE2BZ> Signal degraded a lot over here
[13:34] <AndyEsser> not sure if I can hear it
[13:34] <AndyEsser> or if the noise just seems pattern-y to me :P
[13:34] <PE1MJA-Robert> I am testing my low noise amplifier. What is the tx freq. at the moment?
[13:35] <AndyEsser> 434.17 is the listed frequency
[13:35] <AndyEsser> don't know if it's actually on that though
[13:35] <PE2BZ> 434.173.4
[13:35] <PE2BZ> So Andy must be seeing a noise pattern on 170 ?
[13:36] <AndyEsser> PE2BZ: pretty sure it's just my mind being hopeful :P
[13:36] <AndyEsser> !dial SGTDK
[13:36] <SpacenearUS> 03AndyEsser: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[13:37] <PE1MJA-Robert> Tnx, noisy signal found here now :-)
[13:37] <AndyEsser> popped over to the new office earlier today to sign the lease
[13:37] <AndyEsser> I had originally asked about putting antennas on the roof and was told this was not feasible
[13:37] <PE2BZ> Signal is not very good over here, not at PB0AHX and not at PA3DJR
[13:38] <AndyEsser> the centre manager told me today that in fact it had been designed expressly for that sort of situation and all the vertical runners between the windows running up to the roof were cable trays that tenants can drill into and run their own cabling :D
[13:38] <AndyEsser> so I guess I need to get a drill, and a Genie lift :D
[13:38] <PE2BZ> Bursted
[13:38] <AndyEsser> I GOT 1 BEEP
[13:38] <AndyEsser> ha
[13:39] <PE2BZ> That was left half of Road Runner :-)
[13:41] <AndyEsser> looks like the payload will be staying dry :D
[13:42] <daveake> Yes ... a combination of plenty of gas, and a rather small parachute by the look of it
[13:43] <speedevil> AndyEsser: neat
[13:43] <daveake> I wonder why the map shows "last telemetry 2m ago" when it's just been uploaded
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[13:54] <buzz53> Is it just me or did SGTDK frequency get the wobbles half way up, then come dead stable again after burst?
[13:56] Nick change: speedevil -> SpeedEvil
[13:56] <PE2BZ> No, it´s not you. Same experience over here
[14:06] <PE1MJA-Robert> What kind of antenne is used for this payload? Is that just a piece of wire?
[14:08] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_DFM09-17008862 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_DFM09-17008862
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[14:32] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_DFM06-067590 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_DFM06-067590
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[15:20] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_DFM09-17002552 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_DFM09-17002552
[15:23] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BLL-L - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BLL-L
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[15:49] <daveake> PE2BZ: Which versionb of imagemagick did you install to fix the font problem? V6 or 7?
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[16:37] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BLL-R - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BLL-R
[16:43] <PE2BZ> daveake V6
[16:43] <daveake> ah ta ... am installing V7 at the mo :D
[16:43] <daveake> I'll let that finish and see what happens
[16:47] <PE2BZ> I guess it´s a wild guess, but do you recall any changes in the lora-gateway software which could result in worse LoRa receoption ? LoRa RX is not that good over here in Holland the last weeks, either at 432 MHz and 434 MHz but 2 receivers use the Windows software and they have superb RX.... One tested the same antenna on 2 receivers with the Windows software being about double as much packets.
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[16:49] <daveake> No ... there's nothing I can do in the code to make it worse
[16:50] <daveake> Swap the LoRa module
[16:51] <daveake> I had one here that I swapped after I noticed a lot of CRC errors using some particular settings. Swapped it and the problem went, and also reception from HABs improved a lot!
[16:52] <PE2BZ> I did, in 2 different receivers board (one for pb0ahx and one for myself) Added 2 diodes antiparallel to the antenna input to be safe for nearby TX but no luck. For the PITS you disable and enable LNA gain so I wondered if there was such a setting changed in the gateway software.
[16:53] <daveake> No, nothings changed in that regard since it was first written
[16:53] <PE2BZ> Ok, thanks for the info.
[16:54] <PE2BZ> Frequencies get quite crowded over here so I even tested at 442 MHz to make shure that was not the problem.
[16:56] <PE2BZ> Do you have experience with the SX1276 type modules if they are comparable for sensitivity ?
[16:57] <PE2BZ> Sorry, SX1278
[17:13] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3650279 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3650279
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[17:36] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4440932 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4440932
[17:37] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KD0AWK-12 after 0321 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD0AWK-12
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[17:50] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N2240669 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N2240669
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[18:43] <PE2BZ> daveake testing with 120 mW in my omnidirectional, PB0AHX with 7 element Yagi. 90 percent errors. After changing the lna_max_gain to -24 dB we have 90 percent OK :-) I guess the sensitivity is to high for a crowded area ? Going to try to find a way to check if with AGC on it also works.
[18:52] <daveake> OK let me know
[18:53] <daveake> I routinely test with tracker and aerial very close and very rarely get a crc error
[18:57] <PE2BZ> Close distance is indeed not the problem. It looks like the RFM module gets lost in the big mass of radio signals which makes it hard for the LoRa signals to get above the noise. I had one Pi with gateway on the QRL (27 m ASL, with Tetra on 390 MHz and Tetra on 428 MHz on 500 m distance) and never received anything else then my own transmissions. We tested with -6 db and -12 which showed improvement but with -24 dB it´s close to
[18:57] <PE2BZ> perfect :-)
[18:57] Nick change: ms7821_ -> ms7821
[19:04] <daveake> You probably need a narrow bandpass filter
[19:04] <daveake> Very narrow :)
[19:05] <daveake> Anyway let me know what works best and I'll add an option - AGC and/or reducing gain manually
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[20:05] <Barny> hi - i understand I need to request that a flight document is approved on the tracker - can anyone help with this?
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[20:07] <daveake> Post the flight doc ID in the #habhub channel, along with a message ... something like "please approve 123455678"
[20:08] Nick change: nullcone_ -> nullcone
[20:08] <daveake> I assume you've tested the payload document ... i.e. uploaded telemetry from the tracker and seen your payload appear on the map?
[20:09] <Barny> yep - the payload doc has been tested and all worked well
[20:09] <Barny> have approval from CAA, for launch in the morning
[20:09] <Barny> will move over to #habhub
[20:09] <daveake> cool. I have to ask as 80% if the time, they haven't been !!
[20:12] <Barny> no probs! have messaged on that channel
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[20:56] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_DFM09-17028064 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_DFM09-17028064
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[21:11] <PB0AHX-Herman> !flights
[21:11] <SpacenearUS> 03PB0AHX-Herman: Current flights: 03HG8LXIR 10(5dc0), 03hullabot_in_space_for_launch 10(95e5)
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[23:06] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IV3SRD-11 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IV3SRD-11
[23:14] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P1110426 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P1110426
[23:16] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_M4010068 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_M4010068
[23:18] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3640260 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3640260
[23:18] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P1750742 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P1750742
[23:18] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3820179 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3820179
[23:19] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P1830128 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P1830128
[23:19] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3910640 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3910640
[23:20] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P2620987 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P2620987
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[23:31] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4010718 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4010718
[23:34] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_L2753816 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_L2753816
[23:35] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P1020068 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P1020068
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[23:39] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4440936 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4440936
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[23:41] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P1620145 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P1620145
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