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[02:57] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03DD4WV-1 after 0312 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DD4WV-1
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[04:32] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P3020492 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P3020492
[04:48] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_DFM09-17008482 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_DFM09-17008482
[04:53] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P2220942 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P2220942
[05:00] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P2350071 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P2350071
[05:06] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DC2EH-14 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DC2EH-14
[05:37] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N0940045 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N0940045
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[05:49] <cheeseman> Hey kids
[05:50] <SA6BSS-Mike> good morning good day and goodnight
[05:50] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N2230299 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N2230299
[05:51] <SA6BSS-Mike> went for the wx sonde last night but it was stuck up a 17m high tree and it had started to rain so no go
[05:51] <cheeseman> Have you read anything about this alleged green comet that's supposed to be visible from earth after solar transit?
[05:52] <SA6BSS-Mike> nop not heard of
[05:52] <cheeseman> C/2017 S3 nicknamed the incredible hulk
[05:53] <cheeseman> some brainless reporter claimed you'd be able to see it with binoculars on approach and every other news outlet that picked up the story carried on that lie without question
[05:54] <cheeseman> I wish only scientists were allowed to report on these things, but I realize they would be much less traffic inducing if we always told the truth lol
[05:54] <SA6BSS-Mike> hehe, yes, driving trafic is their main intereset :)
[05:55] <cheeseman> I mean the truth is you're not going to see it.. ever again
[05:55] <cheeseman> Because it's just a cloud now
[05:56] <cheeseman> And since I'm in eastern washington and everything is on fire, most nights I can't even see the moon
[05:58] <SA6BSS-Mike> yeah some realy byg fires over at California, I l wait for Novembers Leonid meteor shower before I do any sky watching
[05:59] <cheeseman> Yeah, I'd do more of that if I worked less lol
[06:00] <cheeseman> or if I would put my Yagi back together and start tracking the FM birds again
[06:00] <cheeseman> Outdoor QSOs are no fun in the wintertime though
[06:01] <cheeseman> Do you think it would be a bad idea if my HAB antenna was just a wire that hung out of the bottom of the payload?
[06:01] <cheeseman> Maybe put a little weight on the end
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[06:03] <cheeseman> Sorry, I sound like I have ADD right now. I promise I don't lol
[06:04] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4430284 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4430284
[06:05] <cheeseman> BRB "Safety meeting" at work lol
[06:06] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N2340138 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N2340138
[06:21] <SA6BSS-Mike> had to get the kids ready
[06:22] <SA6BSS-Mike> moste just hang the antenna out the bottom og the payload, many uses guitar strings for elementa
[06:22] <SA6BSS-Mike> s
[06:26] <SA6BSS-Mike> not much info on US wx sondes but it looks like sondemonitor can decode dfm06
[06:26] <SA6BSS-Mike> and it uses wfm
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[06:31] <SA6BSS-Mike> and uses 1682Mhz
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[06:36] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P0650128 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P0650128
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[06:59] <cheeseman> Yeah I'd like to start tracking scientific payloads in my area but I want to get my lab set up first and move all of my equipment
[06:59] <cheeseman> Right now my lab just consists of a work bench in my dining room
[06:59] <cheeseman> feed lines going out the back window
[07:00] <cheeseman> I want to move it all to the spare bedroom, unfortunately that's been used as storage for the past five years so I have to throw a lot of crap away
[07:01] <cheeseman> I also want to switch my APRS station's antenna over to a Cebik crossed Moxon
[07:02] <cheeseman> Where my house is positioned, a good radiation pattern is better than height or power
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[07:09] <cheeseman> Anybody know what the max character count is for an APRS string?
[07:10] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P2950589 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P2950589
[07:13] <cheeseman> Guess I shouldn't worry about this right now
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[07:15] <fsphil> cheeseman: knowing APRS, the limit is probably variable :)
[07:15] <cheeseman> Yeah, I was just reading a very vague description.. Definitely variable.
[07:16] <cheeseman> My assumption is that for a HAB you probably don't need to include a power height gain reading, but it would be interesting to watch the RF footprint get larger and larger as it goes up.
[07:21] <SA6BSS-Mike> it will show on the habhub map and do just this
[07:23] <SA6BSS-Mike> you can ask in#habhub to as it to aprs importer it will show up on the map whenever you decode it, or if you dont ask for import it will automaticly import over 1500m
[07:23] <cheeseman> Does the tracking software normally calculate speed and heading or do your packets have to include that?
[07:23] <SA6BSS-Mike> the tracking sw on Habhub does this
[07:24] <SA6BSS-Mike> it will show Vertical and Horizontal speed
[07:24] <cheeseman> I've got my code throwing lat,lng and alt into an array, I was just wondering how much memory I need to waste throwing floats into an array lol
[07:24] <SA6BSS-Mike> m/s kmh or imperial
[07:24] <cheeseman> Cool, that's good to know
[07:25] <cheeseman> I guess if that's data I wanted to record, I could include it into the SDcardWrite routine, but not transmit it. Probably only useful information for the first few launches though
[07:26] <cheeseman> Might help me calculate how much lift I should use etc
[07:26] <SA6BSS-Mike> there is a calc for that as well :)
[07:26] <SA6BSS-Mike> http://habhub.org/calc/
[07:26] <cheeseman> Yep I know. It would be more for confirming if I did those calculations correctly or not
[07:27] <SA6BSS-Mike> ah, you mean a s crossreferance
[07:27] <SA6BSS-Mike> real worls vs theory
[07:27] <cheeseman> Yeah
[07:28] <cheeseman> This whole thing is going to be shoestring anyway. I don't want to buy a bunch of off the shelf stuff for the first launch
[07:28] <cheeseman> So it will likely be a stripboard laden with solder and hot glue lol
[07:32] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P2520865 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P2520865
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[07:51] <AndyEsser> cheeseman: at EMF Camp 2 years ago I attempted to launch a breadboard with an AVR + NTX2b on it with callsign EMFBREAD or some such
[07:51] <AndyEsser> sadly I never got my code working in time
[07:52] <fsphil> it was toast
[07:52] <chris_99> heh
[07:52] <AndyEsser> fsphil: o crhist......
[07:52] <cheeseman> lol
[07:52] <AndyEsser> christ*
[07:52] <cheeseman> Dad joke of the day
[07:52] <AndyEsser> still have no idea why it didn't work :(
[07:52] <AndyEsser> it would transmit the first sentence perfectly, but then just stop.....
[07:53] <AndyEsser> ah well - always time for more hab'ing
[07:53] <chris_99> darn
[07:53] <AndyEsser> was showing an OU friend of mine daveake's LCARS tablet interface
[07:53] <cheeseman> Might have been as simple as a function never returning to the main loop
[07:53] <AndyEsser> then realised the blog post was the launch that I went and 'helped' dave recover :)
[07:53] <AndyEsser> Yea - I'm sure it was something simple that I just couldn't see in the rush to try and get it ready to launch at the last minute
[07:54] <cheeseman> But also, I don't know if I would trust a breadboard to stay assembled under those conditions.
[07:54] <AndyEsser> cheeseman: the plan was to wrap it in a large amount of electrical tape :)
[07:54] <cheeseman> lol
[07:54] <AndyEsser> and I didn't really care if it got recovered/survived or not
[07:54] <vaizki> cheeseman, yes it's likely to crumble
[07:54] <cheeseman> Fantastic
[07:54] <daveake> There are butter options
[07:54] <AndyEsser> and it wouldn't have worked properly anyway, as I didn't have my code enabling airborne mode on the Ublox
[07:54] <cheeseman> ugh
[07:55] <fsphil> o crust, what have I started
[07:55] <AndyEsser> fsphil: I will bap you over the head
[07:55] <cheeseman> Yesterday, it was the bad cheese puns
[07:55] <AndyEsser> they weren't bad
[07:56] <AndyEsser> also this channel does seem to like bad fish puns as well
[07:56] <cheeseman> No you're right, they were terrible
[07:57] <vaizki> so you're not a fan of terrine buns then?
[07:57] <cheeseman> I think I'm going to have trouble with this code. I'm at 61% program space and I haven't written the transmit routines
[07:57] <cheeseman> *facepalm*
[07:57] <cheeseman> I'm not a fan of conversational redundancy lol
[07:57] <AndyEsser> buy more RAM yo
[07:58] <cheeseman> Yeah buy more ram for an ATmega328P
[07:58] <AndyEsser> technically it is possible :P
[07:58] <cheeseman> No what I need to do is stop making arrays of floats
[07:58] <AndyEsser> just don't use floats at all on an atmega 328
[07:58] <vaizki> you need to stop using floats period
[07:58] <AndyEsser> it drags in whole software floating point library
[07:59] <AndyEsser> that bloats your code
[07:59] <daveake> Periods are only part of the problem with floats
[07:59] <AndyEsser> since there is no hardware FPU on the atmega
[07:59] <vaizki> stop using floats, period.
[07:59] <daveake> We got it first time :P
[07:59] <vaizki> there I fixed it
[07:59] <daveake> Well I did :)
[08:00] <AndyEsser> vaizki: don't mix fixed point and floating point numbers
[08:00] <cheeseman> I'll definitely be refining the whole program long before I hook Nigel's transmitter to it. Just trying to get everything carved out right now
[08:00] <AndyEsser> what are you using floats for?
[08:00] <vaizki> yes but seriously no floats
[08:00] <cheeseman> Because.. uh..
[08:00] <cheeseman> Maybe I'm dumb, I dunno
[08:01] <cheeseman> just haven't changed it yet
[08:01] <AndyEsser> highly recommend not using floats :P
[08:01] <AndyEsser> uint8_t, uint16_t and _maybe_ a couple uint32_t's :P
[08:01] <fsphil> int32_t for altitude :p
[08:01] <cheeseman> That's above where my knowledge is currently
[08:01] <AndyEsser> if you want to account for your payload dropping below MSL, then maybe an int32_t for that
[08:01] <AndyEsser> ffs fsphil
[08:02] <vaizki> fsphil: so you put one in the dead sea also?
[08:02] <fsphil> there have been some flights that landed at 65.535km :)
[08:02] <AndyEsser> hahaha
[08:02] <AndyEsser> I hadn't even thought to test that :D
[08:02] <cheeseman> I've watched a few go up to 65535, then drop to zero and go up again
[08:03] <cheeseman> looks really funny on a map
[08:03] <fsphil> on, feet?
[08:03] <daveake> ping sibot
[08:03] <fsphil> 65535 feet
[08:03] <SIbot> In real units: 65535 ft = 20 km
[08:03] <fsphil> nice
[08:03] <fsphil> I want SIbot to follow me around all day
[08:03] <fsphil> like an even more annoying alexa
[08:04] <daveake> In your footsteps
[08:04] <cheeseman> Maybe it wasn't 65535 feet, I want to say it was more like 32k feet when it rolled
[08:04] <SIbot> In real units: 65535 ft = 20 km
[08:04] <cheeseman> I'd have to find that email
[08:04] <cheeseman> where I was recommended to use a double for altitude
[08:04] <fsphil> whaaaat
[08:05] <daveake> There have been payloads reporting altitude in metres to 2 decimal places
[08:05] <cheeseman> I mean, I'm not trying to establish ethos for anybody not present, but if a professor is telling me to use double, I'm going to consider it
[08:06] <AndyEsser> christ - defeinitely don't use a double....
[08:06] <daveake> Some profs don't live in the real world (joke intended)
[08:06] <AndyEsser> definitely*
[08:06] <AndyEsser> daveake: in my experience none do
[08:06] <AndyEsser> or when they did, it wasn't this century
[08:06] <daveake> hah
[08:06] <cheeseman> Maybe I'm remembering it wrong.. I need to see the email again now lol
[08:06] <AndyEsser> so many CS grads I've interviewed and they come out thinking they know everything because they had this great professor
[08:06] <AndyEsser> but he's touching stuff that was going out of date in the 90's
[08:07] <AndyEsser> teaching*
[08:07] <fsphil> hmm, tracker written in cobol
[08:07] <AndyEsser> *shudder*
[08:07] <AndyEsser> punch card tracker
[08:07] <AndyEsser> actually.... I'd be up for 'writing' a rope based tracker for shits and giggles
[08:08] <cheeseman> Oh, the program was returning altitude as an int
[08:08] <cheeseman> and that made it roll at 32k
[08:08] <fsphil> yeah on the avr int is 16-bit
[08:08] <cheeseman> "I need to fix that and change to an unsigned long. However, that again makes assumptions."
[08:08] <fsphil> stdint.h is a C programmers best friend
[08:09] <AndyEsser> fsphil: yep
[08:09] <AndyEsser> I _never_ use non fixed width types anymore
[08:09] <AndyEsser> Can't believe I ever did :D
[08:13] <cheeseman> So do you guys think using an unsigned long for altitude is acceptable, assuming I'll be measuring in feet?
[08:14] <cheeseman> Or would you still use uint32
[08:16] <fsphil> int32_t
[08:16] <daveake> And don't use feet either :)
[08:16] <cheeseman> I'm 'Murrikan
[08:16] <cheeseman> We like feet and inches and things like that there
[08:17] <daveake> GPS reports in metres so you'd need to convert
[08:17] <cheeseman> We're bunch of damn cowboys
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[08:17] <fsphil> feet and inches are defined in metric anyway, just skip the middle men
[08:17] <cheeseman> GPS reports in whatever I tell it to :)
[08:17] <cheeseman> I can have it report in inches if I want
[08:18] <cheeseman> see also TinyGPS++ kitchensink.ino
[08:18] <daveake> GPS reports in metres the library is converting for you
[08:18] <cheeseman> yes
[08:19] <cheeseman> also I lied about inches
[08:19] <cheeseman> but you didn't call bs
[08:20] <AndyEsser> I still hate that aviation stuff is all in feet :(
[08:21] <daveake> Don't use tinygps
[08:21] <AndyEsser> except in China where they use metres...
[08:21] <cheeseman> Why not?
[08:21] <cheeseman> Seems to work fine
[08:21] <daveake> I mean, *I* don't use it
[08:21] <cheeseman> ok
[08:21] <AndyEsser> cheeseman: NMEA sentences are ridiculously simple to parse :P
[08:21] <AndyEsser> no point dragging in a whole library of extra code to do it :P
[08:21] <vaizki> UBX is even simple
[08:21] <fsphil> not that simple
[08:21] <vaizki> simpleR
[08:21] <cheeseman> I looked at the ublox library and didn't care for it honestly
[08:21] <daveake> hmm
[08:21] <fsphil> nmea has a couple of gotchas
[08:22] <AndyEsser> *glares*
[08:22] <AndyEsser> shush fsphil
[08:22] <fsphil> lol
[08:22] <daveake> I remember my first flight :p
[08:22] <AndyEsser> using off the shelf libraries full of redundant code and doing god knows what have more gotchas :P
[08:22] <vaizki> UBX binary protocol can be directly read into a struct
[08:22] <AndyEsser> vaizki: yea, that's even more preferable
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[08:22] <vaizki> or rather your input buffer cast as a struct
[08:22] <cheeseman> Apparently there was a HAB in my area recently beaconing WIDE2*
[08:22] <cheeseman> what a jerk..
[08:22] <daveake> Always fun when that happens
[08:23] <daveake> Gets certain people very upset
[08:23] <daveake> Out come the virtual pitchforks
[08:23] <cheeseman> There's a lot of hall monitor hams around here, I'm sure he got at least three phonecalls from angry old republicans
[08:24] <vaizki> next time go WIDE3
[08:25] <cheeseman> What is the generally recommended path for HABs? Because I thought it was WIDE2-1 but now I'm not sure
[08:25] <vaizki> no path at all
[08:25] <vaizki> if you ask the aprs grumpy old men
[08:26] <AndyEsser> vaizki: can I do UBX over the UART?
[08:26] <vaizki> yes of course, I do
[08:26] <AndyEsser> just checking :P
[08:26] <cheeseman> Just have it transmit to your own station and do your best to keep that yagi pointed lol
[08:26] <vaizki> hmm sorry actually I don't
[08:26] <AndyEsser> lol
[08:26] <daveake> Remember you can change the path during flight so you might choose something wider when low
[08:26] <vaizki> can't see why you couldn't
[08:26] <vaizki> but why would you use an uart for ublox
[08:27] <AndyEsser> because I prefer UART to i2c and SPI
[08:27] <cheeseman> Should I change baudrate during flight too? :D
[08:27] <AndyEsser> god no
[08:27] <cheeseman> lol
[08:27] <daveake> I have :P
[08:27] <AndyEsser> daveake: how did that go/.
[08:27] <vaizki> AndyEsser, prefer? ok.. I prefer to leave UART for debugging :)
[08:27] <AndyEsser> ?*
[08:27] <AndyEsser> vaizki: why not both? :P
[08:27] <daveake> First Pi flight, on UART, switching between 50 for Tx through NTX2, and 9600 for Rx from UBX
[08:27] <vaizki> I guess you can drop baud rate to 50 when it stops moving
[08:27] <AndyEsser> I remember how I managed to fill up my atmega because I put in a UART command line interpreter :D
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[08:28] <AndyEsser> god this OU assignment due in today is such a bore :(
[08:28] <vaizki> what's wrong with I2C and ublox.. :P
[08:28] <cheeseman> Andy learning doesn't become fun until you're old and you have to work instead
[08:29] <AndyEsser> cheeseman: i am old, and working
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[08:29] <cheeseman> How do you have assignments then?
[08:30] <AndyEsser> because I'm also studying a degree with the Open University
[08:30] <AndyEsser> to get my Masters in Engineering
[08:30] <cheeseman> Hope that works out. Are you paying out of pocket?
[08:31] <vaizki> this is europe
[08:31] <vaizki> oh wait no it's brexitannia
[08:31] <AndyEsser> Yea, I'm paying for it
[08:31] <vaizki> anyway, tuition fees are typically not a problem
[08:31] <AndyEsser> but being in Wales means it's 1/3rd the cost of if I was living in England
[08:31] <cheeseman> Also, I'm planning to order one of these tomorrow --> https://www.argentdata.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=174
[08:31] <fsphil> I need new eyes, I read that as "Monsters in Engineering"
[08:31] <AndyEsser> fsphil: :D
[08:32] <fsphil> which would actually be a pretty cool course
[08:32] <AndyEsser> haha
[08:32] <cheeseman> That sounds like a cool name for a B-movie
[08:32] <AndyEsser> is it about the engineering department at Monsters University?
[08:32] <vaizki> serial killer protocols 101
[08:32] <AndyEsser> (great film, not as good as Monsters, Inc though)
[08:32] <cheeseman> Why are we losing engine power?! There's monsters in engineering captain!
[08:33] <vaizki> why are you ordering an ADS-GM2?
[08:33] <fsphil> I mean, someone's gotta build mechagodzilla
[08:33] <fsphil> giant evil robots don't just appear out of nowhere
[08:34] <cheeseman> I'm afraid to answer that vaizki :)
[08:34] <cheeseman> There's a couple reasons, but I don't know how valid they are lol
[08:35] <cheeseman> Primarily because the firmware means it's not going to stop working above 60k feet
[08:35] <cheeseman> Also, It's not real expensive
[08:35] <cheeseman> and... It was recommended to me
[08:36] <vaizki> I'm not doubting your decision, just asking why that one :)
[08:36] <cheeseman> It's better than the $15 one I'm using for development
[08:36] <cheeseman> much better
[08:38] <cheeseman> The best part of remote programming is when my RDP session hangs..
[08:39] <vaizki> just.. no.
[08:40] <cheeseman> You know I'm going to ask you why
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[08:40] <vaizki> I have a couple of these https://store.uputronics.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=83 and they are just great.. wonder what happened to their availability
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[08:41] <cheeseman> 3v version unavailable
[08:41] <cheeseman> do better uBlox
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[08:42] <cheeseman> I'm not interested in flying a gigantic battery pack when everything else in the payload is running at 3.3v
[08:42] <AndyEsser> my ublox max breakout board runs happily at 3.3v :D
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[08:43] <cheeseman> I'm sure they're nice
[08:44] <cheeseman> but that's $52 USD and not at all what I want :)
[08:44] <vaizki> ublox runs on 1.8V fine also but Upu's store doesn't have stock in modules
[08:44] <Upu> I don
[08:44] <cheeseman> Yeah I see that
[08:44] <Upu> I do
[08:44] <Upu> Max-8C's run at 1.8V
[08:44] <vaizki> oh right
[08:44] <Upu> as supplied on the chip antenna board
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[08:44] <Upu> if you want the bare modules just search for MAX
[08:45] <cheeseman> Also I hate that antenna but I realize that's a stupid reason to not use the board
[08:45] <Upu> Ublox asked us not to advertise we sell them
[08:45] <vaizki> mmm
[08:45] <vaizki> nice
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[08:45] <Upu> afk !
[08:45] <vaizki> cheeseman, you hate good antennas or just ones that look like that?
[08:46] <cheeseman> Let's pretend that it's somehow superior
[08:46] <cheeseman> if that were the case, yes, I hate phallic plastic antennas
[08:49] <cheeseman> Here's the terrible code I've been working on in case anybody still has doubts about how bad of a programmer I am :D https://pastebin.com/w3bgy5v4
[08:50] <AndyEsser> o christ, tinygps puts ++ in the filename?!
[08:50] <fsphil> do you accept comments? :)
[08:50] <cheeseman> Yeah
[08:50] <cheeseman> comment away
[08:51] <cheeseman> that triggered me too fsphil
[08:51] <cheeseman> "cactus_io_BME280_I2C.h" bothers me also though
[08:51] <fsphil> so many brackets. DateTime = (RTCinfo(0)) + (" ") + (RTCinfo(1));
[08:51] <cheeseman> Yeah, brackets are fun
[08:51] <fsphil> not wrong, just weird
[08:52] <cheeseman> I'm still learning this type of handling, well, re-learning, so I tend to overuse it a lot
[08:52] <cheeseman> Kinda like my overuse of commas
[08:53] <fsphil> lines 9-14, better to have the initialisation inside setup()
[08:53] <cheeseman> Why would that be better?
[08:53] <AndyEsser> cos global state is nasty af
[08:54] <AndyEsser> global initialisation is even worse :P
[08:54] <cheeseman> Only if you make a mistake
[08:54] <AndyEsser> You've admitted yourself you're a bad programmer
[08:55] <AndyEsser> what does this do: bme.setTempCal(-1);
[08:55] <AndyEsser> }
[08:55] <AndyEsser> lcd.init();lcd.backlight();lcd.clear();
[08:55] <AndyEsser> new line characters don't take up space in compiled code
[08:55] <cheeseman> No idea, I just copied that out of the BME example
[08:55] <AndyEsser> do Serial.begin(), ss.begin() and rtc.begin() have return values? if so you should probably check them
[08:55] <cheeseman> Yeah, I like to put those three on one line because they take up less space on the screen
[08:56] <fsphil> cheeseman: oh it seems C++ allows that
[08:56] <fsphil> which is kind of horrible
[08:56] <fsphil> but hey
[08:56] <fsphil> I don't know C++ very well
[08:56] <AndyEsser> float LAT,LNG,AltFeet;
[08:56] <cheeseman> Pretty sure python allows it too
[08:56] <AndyEsser> 1) don't use float
[08:56] <AndyEsser> 2) always initialise your variables
[08:57] <fsphil> pfft, python's not a language
[08:57] Action: fsphil hides
[08:57] <AndyEsser> fsphil: :D
[08:57] <AndyEsser> had to use it at my last contract for the ETL scripts
[08:57] <AndyEsser> I hated it with a passion
[08:57] <fsphil> C++ or python?
[08:57] <AndyEsser> python
[08:57] <fsphil> ah
[08:57] <fsphil> it's super handy for some things
[08:58] <AndyEsser> I love using jupyter notebook tbh for doing actual notebook style stuff
[08:58] <cheeseman> I started using python because of BenzoBot
[08:58] <AndyEsser> like calculations and charts etc
[08:58] <AndyEsser> but screw using it for actual 'work'
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[08:58] <chris_99> What do you use?
[08:59] <AndyEsser> bme.readSensor();
[08:59] <fsphil> cheeseman: lines 34-35
[08:59] <AndyEsser> cheeseman: does this require a certain amount of time to finish doing it's thing?
[08:59] <fsphil> did you mean to put { } around there?
[08:59] <cheeseman> Benzo was an irc bot that uses markov chains to "Learn" to speak by evesdropping
[08:59] <fsphil> the indentation is confusing
[08:59] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03CALLSIGN123_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CALLSIGN123_chase
[08:59] <AndyEsser> chris_99: current contracts are all golang
[08:59] <AndyEsser> embedded I use c or c++
[09:00] <fsphil> cheeseman: even worse on line 36-37
[09:00] <chris_99> Ah, I've not used go but like rust atm
[09:00] <cheeseman> So are you saying the code is confusing or that it's incorrect?
[09:01] <fsphil> possibly both
[09:01] <fsphil> pretty sure 36-37 is definitly an error
[09:01] <fsphil> your if(); statement does nothing
[09:01] <fsphil> the code following will always run
[09:02] <fsphil> the while loop will only run the single line following it
[09:02] <fsphil> where the indentation suggests you meant it to run the block of code below it
[09:02] <cheeseman> the if seems to work to me
[09:02] <daveake> vaizki: The problem with UBlox and i2c is clock stretching. OK, more correctly, the problem with UBlox and i2c and the Pi is clock stretching :/
[09:02] <cheeseman> that's also verbose of the example code
[09:03] <fsphil> unless C++ is different, if(); will do nothing with the result of the test
[09:03] <fsphil> you need to remove the ;
[09:03] <cheeseman> oh hell whats that semicolon doing out there
[09:03] <cheeseman> ugh
[09:03] <fsphil> lol
[09:03] <chris_99> What is the advantage of i2c over UART for GPS?
[09:03] <cheeseman> ok i concede that the if isn't working lol
[09:04] <AndyEsser> fsphil: nice catch
[09:04] <fsphil> and the while loop is definitly wrong too
[09:04] <fsphil> it'll probably work though
[09:04] <AndyEsser> yea, you need your braces for it to work as indented
[09:04] <cheeseman> I don't think I need either of those while loops do I?
[09:05] <AndyEsser> you'll find it's falling through ito the while(true) until your 5000 is up, and not looping around the isValid() stuff
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[09:06] <fsphil> this makes no sense: if (millis() > 5000
[09:06] <fsphil> you need to have a time to reference against
[09:07] <cheeseman> I could probably use the RTC for that right?
[09:07] <fsphil> sorry for focusing on the negatives btw :) I do this to my own code too
[09:07] <cheeseman> focusing on the negatives is what I wanted you guys to do
[09:08] <cheeseman> I wasn't after a pat on the back, I want to know what parts of my code suck lol
[09:08] <fsphil> but yes the while() loop in loop() is probably unnecessary
[09:09] <cheeseman> Wow every time i hop APs my RDP session flips out, I just had desktop icons on top of the browser window for a second lol
[09:10] <fsphil> yeah currently enduring the pain of visual studio over a slow RDP connection
[09:11] <AndyEsser> I'm so glad I don't have to touch windows anymore :D
[09:11] <AndyEsser> fsphil: and code reviews should focus on the bad stuff
[09:11] <AndyEsser> no point commenting "O well done, that's a beautiful bit of code" :D
[09:11] <cheeseman> I'm walking around a datacenter, logged into a laptop, then a VM, talking to you through an RDP session to one of my machines at home
[09:11] <cheeseman> I think my favorite part of that code is my LCD print routine
[09:12] <cheeseman> I've used it in a lot of practice programs recently
[09:13] <cheeseman> I like that it gives me serial output that matches exactly what the LCD will be showing, since I'm about 80 miles from the LCD..
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[09:15] <cheeseman> also got the misses at home chewing up bandwidth with netflix lol
[09:17] <AndyEsser> this is why I have 2 internet connections at home
[09:17] <AndyEsser> one for office, one for kids tablet, netflix, and fiancees phone :D
[09:17] <vaizki> this is why we have unlimited 100Mbps 4G in Finland
[09:17] <Darkside> :<
[09:17] <AndyEsser> shush you
[09:17] <AndyEsser> with your civilisation
[09:17] <Darkside> no fair
[09:17] <AndyEsser> Darkside: hahaha
[09:17] <Darkside> 10/1 on a good day here
[09:18] <fsphil> lol
[09:18] <AndyEsser> my office in bangor has like 4 mbit ADSL :(
[09:18] <cheeseman> My kids don't use the internet
[09:18] <AndyEsser> the new office gets a share of a 100/100 leased line :)
[09:18] <vaizki> let's just say you are not aware of them using the internet
[09:18] <cheeseman> No, I'm certain
[09:18] <cheeseman> my kids are dogs
[09:19] <AndyEsser> I think vaizki's comment still stands :D
[09:19] <cheeseman> Much more practical than tiny humans
[09:19] Action: mfa298 wishes for 10/1 - it's more like 10/0.8(sync rate) for me on a good day (yay for living in a city)
[09:19] <AndyEsser> cheeseman: wish I could trade
[09:19] <cheeseman> No tradsies lol
[09:20] <AndyEsser> probably cheaper as well tbh
[09:20] <cheeseman> definitely
[09:20] <AndyEsser> and doesn't wake me up at 6am standing at the door to their room shouting "juice!"
[09:20] <cheeseman> no school supplies/clothes, they don't bitch, I don't have to insure them..
[09:21] <AndyEsser> I don't really insure my kids.... :P
[09:21] <AndyEsser> "Third Party Insurance for Kids" - payments for when they break other peoples stuff :D
[09:21] <vaizki> cheeseman, again this is europe :)
[09:21] <cheeseman> All I have to do is feed them and make an honest effort to prevent them from dyeing lol
[09:21] <vaizki> we don't have to pay for education or insure humans
[09:22] <vaizki> of course doing so may make things smoother or somewhat better
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[09:22] <vaizki> but it's not a must-do
[09:22] <cheeseman> I'll be off the keys for a minute, replacing a couple of array controllers..
[09:23] <vaizki> off the keys, rolling upgrades, degrading volumes, flushing caches and spinning dem disks
[09:23] <vaizki> I need coffee, badly
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[09:26] <cheeseman> More coffee or a break from work lol
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[09:37] <cheeseman> waiting for a server to initialize 2tb of ram is my least favorite part about this cluster..
[09:39] <cheeseman> That and bitlocker.. yeah, i'm done here
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[09:52] <cheeseman> Has the pre-lunch silence fallen over the channel?
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[09:53] <Darkside> post-dinnertime here
[09:57] <cheeseman> 3am here
[10:01] <fsphil> was away burning some toast
[10:01] Nick change: Kryczek_ -> Kryczek
[10:03] <cheeseman> Is this going to become another bread joke rant?
[10:04] <Darkside> cheeseman: this channel is filled with poms. they like their puns
[10:04] <daveake> Not at all.
[10:04] <daveake> Howdy doodly do. How's it going?
[10:05] <Darkside> meh
[10:05] <chris_99> i want naan of that cheeseman
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[10:05] <cheeseman> lol
[10:05] <fsphil> no, we're butter than that
[10:06] <daveake> did that one :)
[10:06] <cheeseman> oh jesus christ..
[10:06] <fsphil> aah
[10:06] <Darkside> i'd breader not get involved in this
[10:06] <vaizki> jesus christ on a piece of toast
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[10:06] <daveake> Look, I don't want any toast, and he doesn't want any toast. In fact, no one around here wants any toast. Not now, not ever. No toast.
[10:06] <Darkside> daveake: how about a muffin?
[10:07] <daveake> thankyou :D
[10:07] <AndyEsser> daveake: what's that from?!
[10:07] <Darkside> AndyEsser: red dwarf
[10:07] <daveake> Red Dwarf, you heathen
[10:07] <AndyEsser> sorry :(
[10:07] <fsphil> get him!
[10:07] <cheeseman> no toast? know toast.
[10:07] <Darkside> daveake: i was brought up correctly
[10:07] <daveake> Aah, so you're a waffle man.
[10:07] <cheeseman> Isn't that a song?
[10:07] <cheeseman> Waffle Maaaaan...
[10:08] <vaizki> ...
[10:08] <cheeseman> It's your fault..
[10:08] <vaizki> I think the whole conversation has gone stale
[10:08] Action: Kryczek sounds the trumpet for crumpets
[10:09] <Darkside> cheeseman: no escape.
[10:09] <cheeseman> yeah
[10:09] <cheeseman> i messed up
[10:09] <vaizki> you yeast can't help yourselves
[10:10] <daveake> doh!
[10:10] <Steffanx> Stroooop waffles 4 life.
[10:11] <cheeseman> Okay.. just write em all down.. https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/topics/food/bread/
[10:11] <cheeseman> Put them all together, like, in a backpack or something, so it's all together..
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[10:13] <Kryczek> cheeseman: ok if you carry the cheese backpack
[10:13] <cheeseman> Yeah cool, I'm on it. Should we invite HamMan and the condiment kid?
[10:13] <vaizki> I need to find my loafers and leaven for lunch
[10:13] <cheeseman> To go with all these damn bread puns
[10:14] <vaizki> have fun with the buns
[10:14] <Kryczek> :D
[10:15] <cheeseman> It's hot out here, I wish this server would boot faster
[10:16] <cheeseman> No errors, it's not hung, it's just in a state of perpetual derp
[10:16] <Kryczek> Windows server?
[10:16] <cheeseman> Yeah
[10:17] <cheeseman> HPE hardware
[10:17] <cheeseman> hasn't gotten to array init yet
[10:17] <cheeseman> still initializing all of the ram
[10:17] <cheeseman> 2tb
[10:18] <cheeseman> Actually, I have an idea.. hold my beer.
[10:19] <Kryczek> but... with cheese you should be having wine?!
[10:23] <Steffanx> welcome cpctr
[10:23] <cheeseman> Yeah I don't drink beer that often
[10:24] <cheeseman> wine even less
[10:24] <cheeseman> I dislike wine
[10:25] <cheeseman> Went on a tasting tour, sipped, swished, did not spit
[10:25] <cheeseman> bad plan.
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[10:51] <cheeseman> Well it's close enough to lunch time.. Off I go a foraging..
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[11:07] <AndyEsser> holy crap
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[11:40] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P0930747 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P0930747
[11:44] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4440959 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4440959
[11:48] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P1720145 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P1720145
[11:50] Nick change: BitEvil -> SpeedEvil
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[11:57] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3920566 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3920566
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[12:18] <cheeseman> I'm so full of tacos...
[12:18] <cheeseman> bleh
[12:20] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P0350350 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P0350350
[12:28] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P0910995 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P0910995
[12:29] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_DFM09-17043963 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_DFM09-17043963
[12:32] <AndyEsser> I can't tell if I'm actually hungry, or just want to eat some junk food
[12:34] <fsphil> I was very hungry, then ate half a sandwich and now full. my stomach tricked me
[12:35] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N2230329 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N2230329
[12:35] <AndyEsser> I stopped by the cafe on the way from dropping the kids off and got myself a couple sausage + hash brown baps for breakfast
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[12:36] <AndyEsser> should tide me over for a bit
[12:36] <cheeseman> I was hungry
[12:36] <AndyEsser> as soon as I make myself some food, I'll have the eldest asking if she can have some, and then it'll all be gone
[12:36] <cheeseman> then home girl Maria showed up with all of the tacos
[12:42] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P0620677 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P0620677
[12:48] <cheeseman> Have you guys ever had home cooked mexican food?
[12:48] <cheeseman> You need to
[12:48] <fsphil> I've never had mexican food
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[13:01] <cheeseman> How have you never had mexican food?
[13:02] <daveake> fsphil: You should try it - it doesn't all have onions in it :)
[13:02] <daveake> OK it does :D
[13:02] <cheeseman> Most of the time it does
[13:02] <cheeseman> and peppers and garlic and all the goodies
[13:02] <daveake> I jest with fsphil who has an irrational dislike of those lovely things
[13:03] <cheeseman> Sometimes you don't even know what kind of animal is in it
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[13:05] <AndyEsser> my fiancee loves onions and peppers in stuff
[13:05] <AndyEsser> I don't mind it as an actual ingredient in stuff (and cut up in small pieces)
[13:05] <AndyEsser> but she has it as a side.... like giant cooked peppers just right ther
[13:05] <AndyEsser> no
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[13:06] <cheeseman> My fiance is Spanish and hates beans :)
[13:06] <g4ufs> Any LORA on scrapydoo?
[13:07] <cheeseman> Huh?
[13:07] <AndyEsser> g4ufs: believe it's just RTTY
[13:08] <g4ufs> ty
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[13:08] <AndyEsser> no, rtty
[13:08] <AndyEsser> not ty :P
[13:08] <g4ufs> ouch :)
[13:08] <AndyEsser> yea, that was bad
[13:08] <AndyEsser> sorry
[13:10] <daveake> Stupid decoder missed the "rt"; try typing $$$$$$$$rtty
[13:12] <cheeseman> I've never gotten to play around with ritty
[13:14] <cheeseman> Did JT65 for a couple of days.. then my dog chewed up my ladder line..
[13:14] <cheeseman> Cheeseman is too lazy to order more
[13:15] <daveake> You can get another one at the nearest dog shelter
[13:15] <AndyEsser> daveake: :P
[13:15] <AndyEsser> ha!
[13:17] <cheeseman> Nah my dog is cooler than most people, I wouldn't replace em
[13:17] <fsphil> daveake: not liking onions is not irrational
[13:17] <fsphil> it's perfectly sensible
[13:17] <cheeseman> This is where I would make up a bunch of obvious lies about how cool my dog is if I knew you all better
[13:17] <cheeseman> Hey Phil
[13:17] <cheeseman> onions called
[13:18] <cheeseman> yeah they wanted me to let you know they don't like you
[13:18] <fsphil> good
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[13:18] <cheeseman> They said some things about your personal character I won't repeat on the air too. You should probably call her this weekend..
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[13:20] <g4ufs> umm is the camera on scrappydoo supposed to be upside down?
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[13:20] <fsphil> haha
[13:20] <fsphil> that's weird
[13:20] <AndyEsser> I blame the person that wrote SSDV
[13:21] <fsphil> guess they didn't read the man page for the --dont-randomly-flip-image flag
[13:21] <daveake> heh
[13:21] <daveake> Or the PITS manual
[13:21] <daveake> -hf -vf
[13:21] <fsphil> nice picture though. clouds are kinda neat when viewed from above
[13:21] <daveake> Still, at least he changed the callsign this time
[13:21] <fsphil> ooh yes
[13:22] <cheeseman> What is this scrappydoo you speak of
[13:22] <daveake> The payload formerly known as CHANGEME
[13:22] <fsphil> current flight: https://ssdv.habhub.org/SCRAPP
[13:22] <nmcc> Current flight in the north of England
[13:22] <fsphil> !track SCRAPPYDOO
[13:22] <SpacenearUS> 03fsphil: Here you go - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SCRAPPYDOO
[13:23] <cheeseman> And it's got SSTV?
[13:23] <fsphil> huh, that's not too far away from me
[13:23] Action: fsphil remotes into home station
[13:23] <nmcc> yes, slow slow sstv via 300baud rtty
[13:23] <fsphil> ssdv, it's like sstv but packetised jpeg
[13:24] <cheeseman> Yeah digital QSL that's cool
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[13:24] <mattbrejza> huh its upside down
[13:24] <mattbrejza> shame there isnt a feature in pits to flip that... ;)
[13:25] <cheeseman> No it's right side up, your head is on wrong
[13:25] <nmcc> The payload has some thrusters so it can loop whilst taking pictures
[13:25] <mattbrejza> hmm i should probably get that looked at...
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[13:27] <fsphil> top: don't start SDR software with headphones up full
[13:27] <fsphil> tip too
[13:27] Action: fsphil gives up
[13:30] <AndyEsser> lol
[13:32] <cheeseman> I wonder how much of a logistical nightmare it would be to try and fly an FM repeater
[13:32] <cheeseman> One that would stay up a few weeks and float around
[13:34] <nmcc> To what end?
[13:34] <AndyEsser> repeating FM, obvs
[13:34] <fsphil> lol
[13:34] <fsphil> there have been a few repeaters flown, but only on short 1-2 hour flights
[13:36] <cheeseman> I'm talking more like weeks, global drift
[13:36] <fsphil> it would have to be very light weight
[13:36] <fsphil> a heavy payload would need a very heafty balloon to keep it up several days
[13:37] <PB0AHX-Herman> !flights
[13:37] <SpacenearUS> 03PB0AHX-Herman: Current flights: 03atc 10(0030)
[13:37] <fsphil> i thought there was a doc
[13:37] <AndyEsser> think he said in his email the flight doc hadn't been approved
[13:37] <cheeseman> Yeah big mylar envelope
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[13:38] <fsphil> I can't hear scoobydoo
[13:38] <AndyEsser> da342e286384a4b2da8decd6eeb67441
[13:38] <cheeseman> Or mylar tubes in a pyramid configuration
[13:38] <daveake> Where are you!
[13:38] <mfa298> I think atc (030) is his flight
[13:38] <cheeseman> I'm thinking lightweight PVs and a supercap bank for power
[13:38] <fsphil> over here
[13:39] <PB0AHX-Herman> !payload 0030
[13:39] <SpacenearUS> 03PB0AHX-Herman: Payload 03SCRAPPYDOO 10(0030) 03$$SCRAPPYDOO - 03PRIMARY - 03434.25 MHz USB 03RTTY 300/600Hz ASCII-8 none 2
[13:39] <fsphil> !dial scrappydoo
[13:39] <SpacenearUS> 03fsphil: Latest dials for 03SCRAPPYDOO 10(0030): 03434.25 MHz, 434.250298 MHz
[13:39] <fsphil> huh
[13:39] <cheeseman> Gotta bail guys, staff meeting
[13:39] <cheeseman> 73
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[13:40] <PB0AHX-Herman> lot of qrm on 434.250 here
[13:40] <PB0AHX-Herman> but i try
[13:40] <fsphil> nope, no signal at all
[13:40] <fsphil> must be behind a hill
[13:40] <AndyEsser> I wish I'd had more notice - my radio and antenna are in bangor
[13:40] <AndyEsser> I should be able to get it quite clearly here
[13:41] <AndyEsser> was in talks with a guy about buying a trailer mounted extendable mast
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[13:41] <AndyEsser> but then....wedding planning happened and I'm not sure becky would appreciate me forking out money on masts :D
[13:42] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N2530385 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N2530385
[13:44] <fsphil> you may now raise the mast
[13:45] <nmcc> Hmmm, hastily setup mobile kit has just started decoding after 20 minutes of crap - odd
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[13:53] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P0410247 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P0410247
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[14:03] <PB0AHX-Herman> !dial 0030
[14:03] <SpacenearUS> 03PB0AHX-Herman: Latest dials for 03SCRAPPYDOO 10(0030): 03434.25 MHz, 434.250298 MHz, 434.652 MHz
[14:04] <PB0AHX-Herman> total nosignal here
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[14:07] <PB0AHX-Herman> not yet
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[14:22] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 032200DF_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=2200DF_chase
[14:23] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P0350311 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P0350311
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[14:31] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_DFM06-067580 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_DFM06-067580
[14:33] <daveake> hmm wonder if I should add auto-flip code to PITS :)
[14:34] <fsphil> how much would the sensor be? :)
[14:37] <fsphil> ah I can hear scrappy now
[14:38] <fsphil> not strong enough to decode
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[14:48] <mattbrejza> hmm ive just noticed the two national parks with 'york' in their name are on each side of the country, and not really near york
[14:48] <fsphil> $$SCRAP`yDO
[14:48] <fsphil> eh close enough
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[14:54] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SSTAR0255 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SSTAR0255
[14:56] <russss> mattbrejza: yorkshire is big (and it used to be bigger)
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[14:59] <mattbrejza> huh, so it was
[15:00] <mattbrejza> so yorkshire isnt actually a county anymore
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[15:18] <FuzzyLemon> http://www.tao-group.de/ what do people think of this stratospheric sperm whale?
[15:20] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P0410242 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P0410242
[15:36] <daveake> fsphil I was thinking more of looking for the black sky then inverting the image :)
[15:37] <daveake> scrappy is looking close to floaty
[15:37] <fsphil> what if it's night time? :)
[15:38] <daveake> nobody would know :D
[15:38] <fsphil> hah
[15:38] <daveake> If only they'd had someone experienced at the launch to avoid a floater
[15:38] <fsphil> FuzzyLemon: they really need to paint some eyes on it
[15:39] <daveake> Hey it's heading west might get over to you :)
[15:39] <daveake> spoke too soon
[15:40] Action: fsphil starts unpacking the car
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[15:43] <daveake> Maybe it'll invert itself during descent
[15:45] <daveake> Maybe darkside should put a camera on upside-down just to troll any flat-earthers watching
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[15:48] <mattbrejza> looks like he got lucky, its coming down
[15:48] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03UKHAS-2018 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=UKHAS-2018
[15:48] <fsphil> lol
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[15:49] <fsphil> UKHAS-2018 moved at the last minute
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[15:50] <fsphil> PLHAS
[15:52] <nmcc> Doesn't Darkside have to put his camera on upside down so he gets pictures the right way up anyway? Isn't that how the Giant Turtle works?
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[17:01] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_M4010288 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_M4010288
[17:05] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3920573 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3920573
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[17:23] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N2230330 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N2230330
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[17:32] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KC9LIG-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KC9LIG-11
[17:32] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03WB9SKY-11 after 037 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WB9SKY-11
[17:38] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4430291 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4430291
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[18:16] <m0nba> We're launching a balloon in South Africa (YOTA2018) and we need an interesting experiment to run at high altitude. --> https://imgur.com/a/TMIczcZ <-- any thoughts?
[18:17] <Kryczek> m0nba: a braai? :P
[18:17] <nmcc> SCRAPPYDOO landing place was found via a Spot Tracker - SMS I presume
[18:18] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_M2013298 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_M2013298
[18:19] <nmcc> 16 payloads with 11 trackers should be enough of an experiment!
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[18:22] <m0nba> Hahaha, a little crazy. The majority of the radios are for a multi-band repeater
[18:22] <Kryczek> m0nba: joking aside, maybe something to do with humidity? I hear you had huge droughts
[18:23] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P0650741 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P0650741
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[18:44] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BONZO9 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BONZO9
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[19:03] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3930479 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3930479
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[21:04] <Steffanx> Wherw is Laurenceb ?
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[21:26] <cpctr> I think he is preparing the morning memes
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[21:33] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_DFM09-17029266 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_DFM09-17029266
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[21:36] <fsphil> he is becoming one with gpsd
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[21:41] <DJ3LE> Hi all. Can someone please approve our planned flight for tomorrow for DL0FAF-11 (last documents)? Thank you very much. Regards, Hans DJ3LE from DL0FAF-11 team
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[21:54] <SA6BSS-Mike> DJ3LE: if you have a flightdoc paste it in #habhub channel
[21:54] <SA6BSS-Mike> 3
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[21:55] <DJ3LE> SA6BSS Mike. Thank you very much for the info. It's first time we are here ;-) 73s de Hans DJ3LE
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[22:10] <DJ3LE> Hi again. Can please anyone give me a hint how to join the habhub channel 3 to ask for approve of our flight documents on habhub? Thank you.. I'm too old for this tool ;-)
[22:11] <cpctr> Come back for more have you?
[22:12] <DJ3LE> We need to have approved our flight for DL0FAF-11
[22:12] <mfa298> you should be able to use /join #habhub (or click on the link that probably gave)
[22:13] <mfa298> however due to irc spam you probably need to authenticate with the IRC servers first.
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[22:14] <DJ3LE> Thanks a lot for the infos I will try my best.
[22:18] <mfa298> if it doesn't let you join post the flightdoc id (long string of letters and numbers) here and someone might try and help (I'll be here for a little bit)
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[22:53] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KI7CUX - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KI7CUX
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[23:18] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N0810012 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N0810012
[23:19] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3310209 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3310209
[23:19] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3920613 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3920613
[23:20] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4010386 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4010386
[23:21] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P1830121 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P1830121
[23:24] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P1040754 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P1040754
[23:26] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3710282 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3710282
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[23:36] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_L2753790 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_L2753790
[23:37] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P1020291 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P1020291
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[23:47] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P1620132 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P1620132
[23:50] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N2330410 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N2330410
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[23:53] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N2430355 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N2430355
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