highaltitude.log.20180727

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[00:15] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P0930464 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P0930464
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[05:05] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PE2BZ-4FSK after 037 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PE2BZ-4FSK
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[05:34] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P1830111 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P1830111
[05:38] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4750195 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4750195
[05:44] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P2720714 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P2720714
[05:47] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P2230353 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P2230353
[05:49] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4410961 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4410961
[05:56] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P0850383 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P0850383
[06:04] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DF9IK-9_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DF9IK-9_chase
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[07:02] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P2231164 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P2231164
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[07:09] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P2740245 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P2740245
[07:43] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HORUSBINARY after 0314 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HORUSBINARY
[08:45] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P2230532 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P2230532
[08:58] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P2230528 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P2230528
[09:00] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03DK0WT after 036 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DK0WT
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[09:09] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03ALMIGHTYGOD_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ALMIGHTYGOD_chase
[09:13] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SKYBLUE1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SKYBLUE1
[09:14] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VK5HS-9_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VK5HS-9_chase
[09:30] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P2230244 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P2230244
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[10:00] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P1730595 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P1730595
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[10:11] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P2230250 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P2230250
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[10:41] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03V3_chase_car - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=V3_chase_car
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[10:56] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03WB8MSJ-3 after 0312 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WB8MSJ-3
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[11:20] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4011021 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4011021
[11:22] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3630286 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3630286
[11:24] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4010384 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4010384
[11:25] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N2120635 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N2120635
[11:25] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P0720386 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P0720386
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[11:30] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4510086 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4510086
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[11:35] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_L3813699 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_L3813699
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[11:44] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P1530695 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P1530695
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[11:48] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4410964 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4410964
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[11:56] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P0850382 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P0850382
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[12:11] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4010390 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4010390
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[12:54] <PE2BZ> !whereis sp9uob-p31
[12:54] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: I haven't got a clue
[12:54] <PE2BZ> !whereis sp9uob
[12:54] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: 03SP9UOB was over 03Turkey 10(41.92236,35.88785) at 035116 meters about 032 days ago
[13:00] <Darkside> yo PE2BZ
[13:01] <Darkside> i've updated the horusbinary config file and the readme to mention that people may need to chang ethe payload_callsign field :-)
[13:01] <Darkside> so we can avoid having HORUSBINARY jump to europe
[13:01] <PE2BZ> Hi Mark, tried to send it back ;-)
[13:02] <PE2BZ> The RS41 did drop from my antenna mast however (sticky tape to hot) and landed on the roof, 55 degrees was to much ;-)
[13:02] <Darkside> lol ok
[13:02] <Darkside> whoops
[13:03] <PE2BZ> But I think we can confirm the improved range for 4fsk compared to rtty
[13:03] <PE2BZ> Laying on the roof, antenna horizontal, PB0AHX could still copy the 12 mW 4fsk @ 7 km distance. The rtty never succeeded horizontal to vertical :-)
[13:04] <Darkside> hehe
[13:04] <PE2BZ> So yesterday we achieved a 100 % raise of receivers over here
[13:04] <PE2BZ> from 1 to 2 in 12 minutes that was
[13:06] <PE2BZ> Currently not on air, monitoring Uccle Ozon RS41 for a radio amateur who is on its way but needs the burst altitude
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[13:12] <PE2BZ> burst @ 34890 meter should save him 5 km drive ;-)
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[13:43] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P1751000 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P1751000
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[14:18] <PE2BZ> Darkside maybe as default you should use payload name ¨changethistoyourwish¨ because I assume there are more people going to run the progam before reading the manual
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[14:20] <craag> hehe cos that works so well for other payload software ;)
[14:38] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03K2ZRO-9 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=K2ZRO-9
[14:50] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DK0WT-4 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DK0WT-4
[14:53] <daveake> craag you beat me to it :)
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[15:09] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03WB8MSJ-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WB8MSJ-11
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[16:16] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03U3B-22 after 0312 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=U3B-22
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[16:42] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3640347 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3640347
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[17:42] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4410952 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4410952
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[17:59] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD0AWK-14 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD0AWK-14
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[18:18] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SB3 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SB3
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[18:40] <LIERO> hello
[18:43] <Ian_> The community listens ;)
[18:44] <LIERO> \o/
[18:44] <LIERO> thanks, community
[18:45] <LIERO> anyway, as we discussed the other day, APRS is one of the popular ways for following a HAB in flight
[18:46] <LIERO> and I will be using my own setup with a yagi along the way, however the ham infrastructure (digipeaters and igates) is quite scarce in this part of the globe
[18:46] <LIERO> digipeaters will be something like 100km apart
[18:46] <LIERO> so in the opinion of the more experienced, should I sacrifice battery life for transmission power?
[18:46] <LIERO> basically I can transmit at 1W or 7W
[18:47] <LIERO> once we (I) set up the first iGate in town next week, I can make a test at about 20km line of sight with both and see how things go
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[18:50] <bertrik> typically people transmit at something like 25 mW in 70 cm band, RTTY at 50 bps
[18:51] <LIERO> wow, no kidding
[18:51] <bertrik> really :)
[18:51] <LIERO> yeah, I was leaning toward 1W
[18:51] <mfa298> LIERO: power won't help much if the receiver is past line of sight
[18:52] <LIERO> but I´ll see how things go when I do the line of sight test
[18:52] <LIERO> mfa298, right, with 7W I can hit a repeater 10km away in between 10 story high concrete buildings
[18:52] <LIERO> and nothing at 1W
[18:52] <LIERO> so maybe I can get more igates to pick up the 7W in flight and get a stronger signal upon landing
[18:53] <mfa298> at altitude you'll have great line of sight to things, as it comes down that will reduce and 7W won't make much difference over 1W
[18:55] <LIERO> I´m considering a redundant mobile network solution for after landing
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[18:56] <LIERO> it will probably be much more reliable than 2m APRS
[18:57] <LIERO> I can set a timer for 4 hours, it will be completely legal and everything
[18:57] <mfa298> what country are you in ?
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[18:58] <LIERO> Bulgaria
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[18:58] <LIERO> good point, no need to care about the laws anyway :P
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[18:59] <LIERO> the weight difference will be miniscule
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[19:00] <mfa298> that's a bit away from where there have been trackers before, there's a few people around Poland
[19:01] <mfa298> it's potentially worth contacting local hams, you might find some that would be happy to try setting up aprs receivers or trying something else (rtty on 70cms is fairly well documented)
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[19:02] <LIERO> right, I´ll try
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[19:02] <LIERO> I´ll be setting up the first igate in town (city of 400k)
[19:02] <LIERO> so APRS is not really that popular
[19:02] <LIERO> but as you said, line of sight the scarce infrascture will suffice
[19:03] <LIERO> but after landing I think mobile network is a wise choice
[19:03] <LIERO> there´s coverage almost everywhere other than remote mountain areas
[19:03] <LIERO> not a bad option for redundancy
[19:05] <mfa298> unscientific guess work says it works about 50% of the time or less. You usually try and get payloads to land on the ground away from built up places. The sort of places mobile networks don't target as much, they're expecting most people to hold the mobile 1-2m above ground and usually somewhere more built up
[19:06] <LIERO> fair comment
[19:06] <LIERO> I´ll be waiting for eastern winds in order to land in what is essentially the flattest part of the country, exactly after all harvest activies have finished
[19:07] <LIERO> but I´ll be in the fields soon, I´ll check how the connection is on the ground
[19:07] <LIERO> perhaps I can get a GSM shield with an external antenna
[19:12] <mfa298> talking to some local hams would probably be worthwhile annd see if they'de be interested in helping out by receiving something.
[19:22] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Valdi3_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Valdi3_chase
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[22:29] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_DFM09-17028092 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_DFM09-17028092
[22:32] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HORUSBINARY after 0312 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HORUSBINARY
[23:07] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DO1JOM_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DO1JOM_chase
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[23:10] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03dh5wm_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=dh5wm_chase
[23:17] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4010385 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4010385
[23:17] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3910474 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3910474
[23:18] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N1730504 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N1730504
[23:19] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3640339 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3640339
[23:25] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N2430184 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N2430184
[23:32] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IV3SRD-11 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IV3SRD-11
[23:33] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_L3813612 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_L3813612
[23:41] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4410954 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4410954
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