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[05:26] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P1620004 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P1620004
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[05:38] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P1730597 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P1730597
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[06:21] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03ALMIGHTYGOD_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ALMIGHTYGOD_chase
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[07:12] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P2730252 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P2730252
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[07:31] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P2720690 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P2720690
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[08:11] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N2120386 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N2120386
[08:24] <Darkside> PE2BZ: i'm around now..
[08:27] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HORUSBINARY after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HORUSBINARY
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[09:07] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P2230664 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P2230664
[09:12] <PE2BZ> Darkside good morning :-) I seem to be totally unable to compile the RS31 4fsk version, either on WIndows wit CoIDE or with LInux
[09:12] <Darkside> well i would expect CoIDE to not work
[09:13] <Darkside> since i havent used it and i've added files to the folder
[09:13] <PE2BZ> There was a statement indeed that it probably would not work with windows. I tried and you where right.
[09:13] <Darkside> well i havent tested it
[09:14] <Darkside> tbh i havent tested it under linux either, i'm building under OSX
[09:14] <Darkside> but it should work fine as long as you have the gcc-arm-none-eabi toolchain in the right place
[09:15] <PE2BZ> The problem is that the cmakelists.txt gave a lot of problems with Linux. So I re-formatted it a bit:
[09:15] <PE2BZ> if (UNIX)
[09:15] <PE2BZ> set(TOOLCHAIN_DIR "/home/pe2bz/opt")
[09:15] <PE2BZ> set (CMAKE_C_COMPILER ${TOOLCHAIN_DIR}/arm-none-eabic GNU)
[09:15] <PE2BZ> set (CMAKE_CXX_COMPILER ${TOOLCHAIN_DIR}/arm-none-eabi GNU)
[09:16] <Darkside> hrm
[09:16] <Darkside> eabic ?
[09:18] <PE2BZ> Sorry, corrected that.
[09:18] <PE2BZ> without the set ( in front of line 2 and 3 it complained that cmake_c_compiler was not recognized
[09:19] <PE2BZ> Should we continue in a private window or is this interersting for all users by the way ?
[09:19] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P2230449 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P2230449
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[09:20] <Darkside> no idea
[09:20] <Darkside> but i dont know much cmake..
[09:20] <Darkside> it worked for me
[09:21] <PE2BZ> -- Check for working C compiler: /home/pe2bz/opt/arm-none-eabi
[09:21] <PE2BZ> -- Check for working C compiler: /home/pe2bz/opt/arm-none-eabi -- broken
[09:21] <PE2BZ> CMake Error at /usr/share/cmake-3.7/Modules/CMakeTestCCompiler.cmake:51 (message):
[09:21] <PE2BZ> The C compiler "/home/pe2bz/opt/arm-none-eabi" is not able to compile a
[09:21] <PE2BZ> simple test program.
[09:21] <PE2BZ> It fails with the following output:
[09:21] <PE2BZ> Change Dir: /home/pe2bz/RS41HUP/CMakeFiles/CMakeTmp
[09:21] <Darkside> er
[09:22] <Darkside> well thats your error
[09:22] <Darkside> youv'e specified "/home/pe2bz/opt/arm-none-eabi" as your c compiler
[09:23] <Darkside> https://github.com/darksidelemm/RS41HUP/blob/master/CMakeLists.txt#L11
[09:23] <Darkside> look closely at these lines
[09:27] <PE2BZ> I am reading now. I guess someone should have installed the Gnu Compiler Collection first ? Before blaming others ;-)
[09:28] <Darkside> the first one is meant to be the path to the binaries of the compiler
[09:28] <Darkside> you dont need to install it
[09:28] <Darkside> it just has to be extracted and located in a directory
[09:29] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P2230442 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P2230442
[09:29] <PE2BZ> Thanks Mark, I will try and get in touch.
[09:29] <PE2BZ> Back to work now, 4 hours to go.
[09:54] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P2230672 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P2230672
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[10:05] <Alex_> Hi
[10:06] <Alex_> Does anyone know any good locations to launch a HAB in the North/North-West of the UK?
[10:18] <AndyEsser> How North-West?
[10:18] <AndyEsser> typically you have issues with Manchester/Liverpool airports
[10:18] <PE2BZ> Darkside pe2bz@pogostik:~/RS41HUP$ cmake .
[10:18] <PE2BZ> -- Configuring done
[10:18] <PE2BZ> -- Generating done
[10:18] <PE2BZ> -- Build files have been written to: /home/pe2bz/RS41HUP
[10:18] <PE2BZ> pe2bz@pogostik:~/RS41HUP$
[10:18] <Darkside> yay
[10:19] <AndyEsser> University of Manchester did manage to launch a HAB from a location just inside Wales (Rossett) but had restrictions on wind direction/etc for launch
[10:19] <Darkside> so assuming you're using the right compile, you should be able to buid
[10:22] <Alex_> Also do you know who i should be contacting about getting permission
[10:22] <Alex_> just local councils?
[10:22] <Darkside> the CAA..
[10:23] <Alex_> well yeah i thought the CAA was just for the airspace permission
[10:23] <Alex_> i assumed i'd need permission from whoever technically owns the land too
[10:24] <mfa298> you ought to get permission from the landowner as well
[10:25] <Alex_> so if its public land do you guys contact the council?
[10:25] <Alex_> or do you just get permission from the CAA and assume its OK to launch on the public land?
[10:28] <PE2BZ> Darkside that throws me another error, could you check if (UNIX)
[10:28] <PE2BZ> set(TOOLCHAIN_DIR "/home/pe2bz/opt")
[10:28] <PE2BZ> set (CMAKE_C_COMPILER /usr/bin/gcc)
[10:28] <PE2BZ> set (CMAKE_CXX_COMPILER /usr/bin/g++)
[10:28] <PE2BZ> g++ and gcc both are in /usr/bin
[10:28] <PE2BZ> cmake . works but make complains
[10:29] <PE2BZ> gcc: error: unrecognized command line option -mthumb; did you mean -mtbm?
[10:29] <Darkside> PE2BZ: read the insructions - you cant use regular gcc
[10:29] <Darkside> Grab the latest GNU ARM Embedded toolchain from here: https://developer.arm.com/open-source/gnu-toolchain/gnu-rm/downloads
[10:29] <Darkside> i really hope you didnt install that toolchain to /usr/bin...
[10:30] <PE2BZ> Nope :-)
[10:30] <PE2BZ> that´s in opt
[10:30] <Darkside> then why are you using /usr/bin/gcc as your C compiler!
[10:31] <PE2BZ> I am a noob. Do I need the ARM toolchain because of compiling for the ARM processor in the RS41 ?
[10:31] <Darkside> yes!
[10:31] <russss> the compiler binary should be called arm-none-eabi-gcc
[10:31] <Darkside> look, if you have that toolchain in ~/opt, then you shouldnt need to edit tht CMakeLists.txt file at all
[10:31] <PE2BZ> Now I am a bit less noob. I was assuming (stop doing that... note to self) that it was about the platform I was compiling at, not compiling for.
[10:31] <Darkside> https://github.com/darksidelemm/RS41HUP/blob/master/CMakeLists.txt#L11
[10:32] <PE2BZ> I will restore that file.
[10:32] Action: cm13g09 waves to mfa298
[10:32] <Darkside> the defaults in CMakeLists.txt assume you have the gcc-arm-none-eabi toolchain in ~/opt
[10:32] <Darkside> and hence the binaries are located in ~/opt/gcc-arm-none-eabi/bin/
[10:32] Action: mfa298 waves back at cm13g09
[10:33] <PE2BZ> That was the first problem, the lines 13 and 14 gave an error . But I will try again, tnx again :-)
[10:33] <Alex_> does anyone have any thoughts about my question?
[10:33] <AndyEsser> Ask the landowners permission
[10:34] <AndyEsser> if it's private land definitely do this
[10:34] <AndyEsser> if it's public land
[10:34] <AndyEsser> proceed.... as you wish
[10:34] <AndyEsser> but technically still get the landowners permission
[10:34] <AndyEsser> I couldn't advise you otherwise
[10:34] <AndyEsser> and don't be stupid about it
[10:34] <AndyEsser> a public park/etc is probably fine
[10:34] <AndyEsser> standing in the middle of a motorway
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[10:34] <AndyEsser> not so fine
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[10:35] <Alex_> so if i was going to do it in a park do you think i'd need to contact people?
[10:35] <Alex_> or do you think it would be OK just contacting only the CAA?
[10:39] <AndyEsser> I can neither confirm nor deny
[10:40] <AndyEsser> the CAA is an absolute - you can't do anything without that permission
[10:40] <AndyEsser> but the CAA permission does not automatically grant you right to launch in the location
[10:50] <mfa298> landowners permission is probably up to you based on what you know of the site, but technically you should probably get some sort of permission.
[10:50] <mfa298> whether thats a sign suggesting you can or talking to a person ...
[10:53] <Alex_> ok thanks
[10:54] <Alex_> also another question i had
[10:54] <Alex_> when i'm testing my PITS, the HABAMP seems to make no effect on the signal strength
[10:54] <Alex_> how noticeable an effect is it meant to make?
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[10:58] <PE2BZ> Alex_ what distance between antenna and payload ?
[10:59] <Alex_> varying from 10m to around 150-200m
[11:00] <PE2BZ> On short distance there would be close to no difference. A radio amateur 16 km north from me with the habamp cought 200 more pacets from a payload travelling south as me, with the same 7 element yagi
[11:00] <PE2BZ> Darkside the unmodified cmakelists.txt gave 2 warnings
[11:01] <PE2BZ> pe2bz@pogostik:~/RS41HUP$ cmake .
[11:01] <PE2BZ> CMake Deprecation Warning at /usr/share/cmake-3.7/Modules/CMakeForceCompiler.cmake:69 (message):
[11:01] <PE2BZ> The CMAKE_FORCE_C_COMPILER macro is deprecated. Instead just set
[11:01] <PE2BZ> CMAKE_C_COMPILER and allow CMake to identify the compiler.
[11:01] <PE2BZ> Call Stack (most recent call first):
[11:01] <PE2BZ> CMakeLists.txt:13 (CMAKE_FORCE_C_COMPILER)
[11:01] <PE2BZ> CMake Deprecation Warning at /usr/share/cmake-3.7/Modules/CMakeForceCompiler.cmake:83 (message):
[11:01] <PE2BZ> The CMAKE_FORCE_CXX_COMPILER macro is deprecated. Instead just set
[11:01] <PE2BZ> CMAKE_CXX_COMPILER and allow CMake to identify the compiler.
[11:01] <PE2BZ> Call Stack (most recent call first):
[11:01] <PE2BZ> CMakeLists.txt:14 (CMAKE_FORCE_CXX_COMPILER)
[11:01] <PE2BZ> -- Configuring done
[11:01] <Darkside> jeez
[11:01] <PE2BZ> -- Generating done
[11:01] <PE2BZ> -- Build files have been written to: /home/pe2bz/RS41HUP
[11:01] <Darkside> didnt have to paste all that in
[11:02] <PE2BZ> Sorry to group this had to be 2 lines...
[11:02] <PE2BZ> If I ignore the warnings and run make I get gcc: warning: -mcpu= is deprecated; use -mtune= or -march= instead
[11:03] <Darkside> yeah but does it still build?
[11:03] <PE2BZ> gcc: error: unrecognized command line option -mthumb; did you mean -mtbm?
[11:03] <Darkside> sigh
[11:04] <Darkside> works for me
[11:06] <Alex_> so PE2BZ what distance would you suggest it would make a significant difference?
[11:07] <PE2BZ> Alex_ is this a lora or an RTTY payload by the way ?
[11:08] <Alex_> RTTY
[11:09] <PE2BZ> At the bottom of dl-fldigi there is an S/N indicator. I think that when there is about 2000 meter distance between rx and tx you should clearly see the S/N improve with the Habamp
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[11:17] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4011028 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4011028
[11:21] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3630289 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3630289
[11:25] <dbrooke> PE2BZ: seems to build OK for me on Linux, all I changed was TOOLCHAIN_DIR to match my install - https://stuff.dbrooke.me.uk/sp-eydUYE
[11:27] <PE2BZ> dbrooke thanks for testing, do you also get the The CMAKE_FORCE_CXX_COMPILER macro is deprecated. Instead just set
[11:27] <PE2BZ> CMAKE_CXX_COMPILER and allow CMake to identify the compiler. messages ?
[11:30] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4010467 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4010467
[11:31] <PE2BZ> Sorry, answered allready in your message
[11:35] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IV3SRD-11 after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IV3SRD-11
[11:35] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_L3743826 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_L3743826
[11:37] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P0920991 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P0920991
[11:43] <dbrooke> Yeah, the warnings don't prevent it from building.
[11:44] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_M4343874 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_M4343874
[11:45] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4440004 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4440004
[11:46] <PE2BZ> Is your linux 32 or 64 bit ?
[11:46] <dbrooke> 64
[11:46] <PE2BZ> Mine too.
[11:47] <PE2BZ> moved the /pe2bz/opt contents to /opt and changed the cmakelists.txt accordingly but same errop appears.
[11:48] <PE2BZ> Found 2 questions about the same error message but both unanswered so far.
[11:49] <dbrooke> the error you reported would suggest that it's not using the arm compiler so I'd check that the CMakeLists.txt only has the one line changed
[11:51] <PE2BZ> Would you check with me ? https://pastebin.com/pCuWiYFk
[11:52] <Darkside> can you run the command /opt/gcc-arm-none-eabi/bin/arm-none-eabi-gcc --version
[11:53] <PE2BZ> Ahum ... /opt/gcc-arm-none-eabi/bin/arm-none-eabi-gcc --version
[11:53] <PE2BZ> bash: /opt/gcc-arm-none-eabi/bin/arm-none-eabi-gcc: No such file or directory
[11:54] <Darkside> well thats not good
[11:54] <Darkside> is there anything at all in /opt/gcc-arm-none-eabi/bin/ ?
[11:56] <dbrooke> my CMakeLists.txt has a bunch of extra stuff after line 22 so as long as you only pasted the top of it it looks OK pending ^^
[11:58] <PE2BZ> the folders where in /opt and not in /opt/gcc-arm-none-eabi
[11:58] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P0850359 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P0850359
[11:59] <Darkside> PE2BZ: so you just has /opt/bin/arm-none-eabi-gcc ?
[11:59] <PE2BZ> I had, I now created gcc-arm-none-eabi and moved all files folders to that
[12:00] <Darkside> ok
[12:01] <PE2BZ> One moment, I am starting from scratch again. Screwed things up I guess.
[12:03] <dbrooke> you need to point at the bin directory in the top level of the unpacked archive and not the one within the arm-none-eabi-gcc directory which also exists at the top level
[12:04] <dbrooke> sorry arm-none-eabi directory
[12:16] <PE2BZ> pe2bz@pogostik:~/RS41HUP$ /home/pe2bz/opt/gcc-arm-none-eabi-7-2018-q2-update/bin/arm-none-eabi-gcc --version
[12:16] <PE2BZ> arm-none-eabi-gcc (GNU Tools for Arm Embedded Processors 7-2018-q2-update) 7.3.1 20180622 (release) [ARM/embedded-7-branch revision 261907]
[12:16] <PE2BZ> So its extracted in /home/pe2bz/opt and it exists
[12:17] <PE2BZ> set(TOOLCHAIN_DIR "/home/pe2bz/opt/gcc-arm-none-eabi-7-2018-q2-update/bin")
[12:17] <PE2BZ> CMAKE_FORCE_C_COMPILER(${TOOLCHAIN_DIR}/arm-none-eabi-gcc GNU)
[12:17] <PE2BZ> CMAKE_FORCE_CXX_COMPILER(${TOOLCHAIN_DIR}/arm-none-eabi-g++ GNU)
[12:18] <PE2BZ> should be right ?
[12:18] <dbrooke> look good
[12:19] <PE2BZ> still no luck with make however.
[12:21] <dbrooke> maybe make sure there's no old stuff - rm CMakeCache.txt Makefile RS41HUP.bin RS41HUP.hex RS41HUP.map cmake_install.cmake ; rmdir CMakeFiles
[12:22] <dbrooke> after that a git status should show only modified: CMakeLists.txt and no untracked files
[12:24] <Darkside> sh cmake-clean.sh
[12:25] <PE2BZ> CMakeFiles and all its contents should be removed ?
[12:25] <Darkside> run the command
[12:26] <Darkside> sh cmake-clean
[12:26] <Darkside> within the RS41HUP directory
[12:26] <Darkside> that will clean out all the cmake autogenerated files
[12:26] <dbrooke> hadn't spotted that 8-)
[12:29] <PE2BZ> config.h is modified (makes sense) and the is one untracked file .CMakeLists.txt.swp
[12:31] <PE2BZ> modified: CMakeLists.txt
[12:31] <PE2BZ> modified: config.h
[12:31] <PE2BZ> no changes added to commit (use "git add" and/or "git commit -a")
[12:31] <PE2BZ> (removed the swp file also)
[12:31] <Darkside> sure, now try running cmake .
[12:31] <Darkside> and then make
[12:34] <PE2BZ> CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:22 (project):
[12:34] <PE2BZ> The CMAKE_C_COMPILER:
[12:34] <PE2BZ> home/pe2bz/opt/gcc-arm-none-eabi-7-2018-q2-update/bin/arm-none-eabi-gcc
[12:34] <PE2BZ> is not a full path and was not found in the PATH.
[12:34] <PE2BZ> Is it me or is it hot here....
[12:34] <Darkside> er
[12:34] <Darkside> hrm
[12:35] <dbrooke> missing leading / somehow
[12:35] <Darkside> and does that directory in the error you just pasted exist?
[12:36] <PE2BZ> I love you all !!
[12:36] <PE2BZ> Building /home/pe2bz/RS41HUP/RS41HUP.hex
[12:36] <PE2BZ> Building /home/pe2bz/RS41HUP/RS41HUP.bin
[12:36] <Darkside> yay
[12:36] <dbrooke> \o/
[12:36] <PE2BZ> Thanks for you patience :-)
[12:36] <Darkside> also if you'r eusing the 4FSK mode, i'd suggest disabling the RTTY transmission
[12:37] <Darkside> as the performance of the modem is a bit better if the 4FSK transmission is continuous
[12:37] <PE2BZ> I was going to try the 4FSK indeed. So I have to cmake again ;-)
[12:37] <Darkside> the frequency estimation gets a bit confused with the RTTY tones
[12:38] <dbrooke> and it is hot here ... just waiting for the car to cool down before I go out
[12:38] <Darkside> ugh i really need to add in the list of IDs
[12:38] <PE2BZ> and dbrooke indeed the / at home/pe2bz was missing
[12:38] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SITS-1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SITS-1
[12:38] Action: PE2BZ now also thinks he can build the RS41 beacon and put it on the roof of his work at 52 m asl as radio beacon :-)
[12:39] <Darkside> i dont want HORUSBINARY to show up in the middle of europe during one of our flights~
[12:39] <PE2BZ> I would not mind. Requested altitude 13 m at 52 n 4.2 East please :-)
[12:40] <LIERO> hello
[12:40] <LIERO> I´m planning on using APRS for tracking, I assume that´s common enough in continental Europe?
[12:42] <dbrooke> if you have an amateur radio licence and your country permits airborne use
[12:42] <PE2BZ> 2 meter APRS is quite common, 70 cm aprs not 20 % of the 144 MHz coverage
[12:42] <LIERO> yes, we only do 2m APRS here, afaik
[12:43] <LIERO> and I couldn´t find anything in the relevant laws or ham regulations forbidding airborne APRS, so I think I´ll stick with that
[12:44] <PE2BZ> No problem, but a reprogrammed RS41 can only do APRS on 432 MHz and we found out that´s a waste of battery power....
[12:44] <PE2BZ> 140 km between mid Netherlands and mid Germany with no covearage at all.
[12:44] <LIERO> I see
[12:45] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P2230243 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P2230243
[12:45] <PE2BZ> Darkside O Mark ? Did you ever find a way to tune the RS41 in not reprogrammed mode to 70 cm frequencies ?
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[12:53] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03DUNA-RS41 after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DUNA-RS41
[12:54] <Darkside> PE2BZ: no
[12:54] <PE2BZ> to bad ;-)
[12:55] <Darkside> you would have to get hold of one of the RS41 ground sttions and figure out how the NFC communication works
[12:55] <Darkside> im sure its not proper NFC, and is just some basic 13.56 mhz communication to the sonde
[12:56] <Darkside> but trying to reverse engineer it without a ground station unit would be... extremely difficult, if not impossible
[12:56] <PE2BZ> I was thinking like an arduino setting the radio chip and not informing the STM32F100 about it...
[12:57] <Darkside> maybe, but you'd have to inhibit communications with the STM32 somehow
[12:57] <Darkside> and that just sounds difficult
[12:57] <PE2BZ> The ground station does not allow out of band programming ( > 400 < 406 MHz )
[12:57] <Darkside> would be better to spend the effort reverse engineering the temp and humidity sensor circuitry
[12:57] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_L5033504 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_L5033504
[12:57] <Darkside> as it looks like its using an external ADC
[12:59] <Alex_> does anyone have experience launching balloons on 'open access land'?
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[13:00] <gonzo_> I've done some pico flights on the local palying fields
[13:00] <gonzo_> playing
[13:01] <Alex_> pico flights?
[13:01] <gonzo_> you just have to make sure you have enough lift that it doesn't float into the footballers
[13:01] <Alex_> did you contact anyone (other than CAA) before doing so?
[13:01] <gonzo_> pico, usually means, balloons small enough to not need a NOTAM/CAA permission
[13:02] <gonzo_> these were 36" foil balloons, and 100gm latex
[13:02] <gonzo_> which you can fill at home and walk over to the field, or put in the back of the car inflated
[13:03] <gonzo_> then just release
[13:03] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P2230306 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P2230306
[13:03] <gonzo_> craag may know more about full size launches. I have a feeling that the souton unit release site is public
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[13:21] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SSTAR0250 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SSTAR0250
[13:32] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03K2ZRO-9 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=K2ZRO-9
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[13:57] <PE2BZ> 2018-07-26 15:57:20,926 INFO: Habitat - Uploaded sentence to Habitat successfully
[13:57] <PE2BZ> 2018-07-26 15:57:23,526 INFO: Hexadecimal Sentence: 017E020D391363F74F42685D8640120000081B8E7918
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[14:27] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P1830112 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P1830112
[14:34] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PE2BZ-4FSK - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PE2BZ-4FSK
[14:38] <PE2BZ> !payload PE2BZ-4fsk
[14:38] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[14:44] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P2230395 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P2230395
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[15:40] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_DFM09-17028038 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_DFM09-17028038
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[16:08] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03WB8MSJ-3 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WB8MSJ-3
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[17:11] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03U3B-22 after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=U3B-22
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[17:41] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3630284 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3630284
[17:45] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4411004 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4411004
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[19:52] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_M2853141 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_M2853141
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[21:04] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SB2B - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SB2B
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[23:17] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4010927 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4010927
[23:18] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4010465 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4010465
[23:19] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N1720673 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N1720673
[23:19] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3710294 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3710294
[23:20] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N2430197 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N2430197
[23:23] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P1040174 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P1040174
[23:36] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IV3SRD-11 after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IV3SRD-11
[23:37] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P1930235 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P1930235
[23:38] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_L3833262 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_L3833262
[23:42] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P0850358 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P0850358
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