highaltitude.log.20180628

[00:19] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P0530287 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P0530287
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[00:40] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3140153 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3140153
[00:44] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N2140354 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N2140354
[00:45] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03CANYONERO - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CANYONERO
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[00:57] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N2150616 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N2150616
[01:04] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4240854 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4240854
[01:20] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03U3B-21 after 0315 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=U3B-21
[01:25] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03ALMIGHTYGOD_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ALMIGHTYGOD_chase
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[02:09] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03U3B-20 after 0317 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=U3B-20
[02:24] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03U3S25 after 038 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=U3S25
[03:08] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_DFM09-16001438 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_DFM09-16001438
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[03:54] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRFW-6 after 0317 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-6
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[04:07] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HORUSBINARY after 0317 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HORUSBINARY
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[04:23] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P2440018 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P2440018
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[04:54] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P0930729 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P0930729
[05:05] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P2140364 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P2140364
[05:14] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P1750004 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P1750004
[05:19] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4730527 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4730527
[05:38] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P1610233 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P1610233
[05:39] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4020573 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4020573
[05:41] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N2050258 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N2050258
[05:49] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4430440 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4430440
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[06:45] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N1043331 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N1043331
[06:54] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N2140355 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N2140355
[06:58] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N2210237 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N2210237
[06:58] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P0950308 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P0950308
[07:06] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_K4640445 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_K4640445
[07:25] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P0440577 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P0440577
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[07:50] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N2020450 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N2020450
[07:55] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P2150225 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P2150225
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[08:19] <fabhab> trickv: will send a story and pics. thank you so much for tracking out balloon. It was incredible to see so many following us. We were chuffed that so many people we helping us.
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[08:28] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P0440598 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P0440598
[08:55] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N0943396 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N0943396
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[09:11] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03U3S25 after 037 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=U3S25
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[09:28] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P1610230 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P1610230
[09:30] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SITS5 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SITS5
[09:36] <PE2BZ> fabhab was it recovered ?
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[09:51] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N2050261 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N2050261
[09:53] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_DFM09-17008959 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_DFM09-17008959
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[10:41] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P2130921 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P2130921
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[10:44] <ImaginativeName> Hi all, wondering about LoRa recommended settings for transmit power, spreading factor and bandwidth - I haven't found any on the wiki.
[10:45] <ImaginativeName> I assume I should use max tx (17dB for what I'm using) and min spreading factor due to the small amount of data sent and to maximise packet size
[10:45] <ImaginativeName> I wasn't sure if there were any tradeoffs on bandwidth though?
[10:46] <ImaginativeName> (using LoRa RFM98 and arduino-LoRa library)
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[10:57] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_K4420195 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_K4420195
[11:00] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P1030494 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P1030494
[11:07] <mfa298> as a first step check what's legal for where you are, you may not be able to use the full power at 100% duty (or even at all)
[11:08] <mfa298> for a simple guide look at the modes that have been defined for PITs, they cover various tradeoffs between range and througput and should all be legal for the UK (and probably most of EU)
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[11:17] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3550434 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3550434
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[11:21] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3920733 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3920733
[11:21] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4010420 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4010420
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[11:27] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P0640441 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P0640441
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[11:27] <mattb2> hello - seems the web chat interface doesn't show who's in the channel - anyone around that could answer a habhub tracker question?
[11:28] <PE2BZ> mattb2 you should always drop your question and see who´s able to answer :-)
[11:29] <PE2BZ> 159 users online at the moment
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[11:30] <mattb2> thanks, just wanted to check I wasn't speaking to myself... is there a way to show the payload information (mainly frequency) online? I know I can use dl-fldigi but that doesn't seem to show the active flights all the time, and I seem to need to download a fairly big file each time when I press payload refresh too?
[11:31] <mattb2> for example right now, is there a way to see which frequency to try tuning to to pickup SITS5?
[11:31] <PE2BZ> That´s an easy answer. No
[11:31] <PE2BZ> It´s on 434.550 by the way and has bursted
[11:32] <PE2BZ> The sits team / operator does not make a payload document. No flight document either. As soon as the payload doc is created you can use
[11:32] <PE2BZ> !payload FLORA1
[11:32] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: There are no flights currently :(
[11:33] <mattb2> ah ok, thanks - I thought a flight would only show-up on habhub if they'd uploaded a payload+flight document
[11:34] <PE2BZ> If you once create a payload doc with callsign and you use the same callsign again (even a year later) you will appear on the map.
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[11:35] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N0943402 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N0943402
[11:35] <mattb2> if they had done so, I can use the IRC bot to get the payload info then? That's handy.. any other way other than dl-fldigi? Only other issue with dl-fldigi is it seems to need me to bring my station online to download the payload info... for example if just looking on a web SDR
[11:36] <mattb2> ah ok, thanks again PE2BZ
[11:36] <mfa298> mattb2: if they had a flightdoc then there's a calendar it will show up on as well.
[11:36] <PE2BZ> and the calendar would show the frequency and parameters
[11:37] <ImaginativeName> thanks mfa298 for the answer, will do.
[11:37] <mattb2> ah I see, I didn't know if the calendar entry was optional for this or not - that's another good way then too, thanks
[11:37] <ImaginativeName> Where can I find the PITs modes?
[11:37] <mfa298> you can get the ics file from http://habitat.habhub.org/calendar/
[11:37] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3720062 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3720062
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[11:48] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P0630593 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P0630593
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[11:54] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4440941 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4440941
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[12:04] <ImaginativeName> Ok so in this document: https://www.ofcom.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0028/84970/ir-2030-july-2017.pdf the highest transmit power allowed for "non-specific devices" and "model control" is 10mW (10dBm) for 434MHz.
[12:04] <ImaginativeName> Is that high enough for ballooning?
[12:04] <PE2BZ> If you go higher as 1000 m more then enough :-)
[12:05] <PE2BZ> With 8 mW ¨we¨ have been received over 400 km at 11 km altitude
[12:06] <ImaginativeName> Great thanks, is it reliable? I'm going max 30km
[12:08] <PE2BZ> Reception range increases with altitude. If your transmitter, battery and connections and antenna are reliable, it will work.
[12:08] <PE2BZ> Don´t get fooled with wifi like antenna´s wit reverse polarity connectors by the way
[12:09] <PE2BZ> You will receive yourself at 50 m distance but as soon as the balloon goes up the signal is lost.
[12:10] <PE2BZ> So check, check double check for the right type of antenna connector. (I mostly fly trackers with 16 cm wire soldered to the center of the antenna output )
[12:20] <ImaginativeName> Ok thanks very much (I've got SMA connectors everywhere, 1/4 wave ground plane transmitter using wires and straws, and I'm going to go for a car mount antenna for the tracking)
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[12:31] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KD0HIP-7 after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD0HIP-7
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[12:53] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N2430529 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N2430529
[13:00] <fsphil> it's quite amazing what can be done with 10mw on 434mhz
[13:07] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N2620562 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N2620562
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[13:32] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N1043304 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N1043304
[13:39] <PE2BZ> g8fjg spotted our FLORA1 last sunday at 470 m altitude in his waterfall :-)
[13:40] <PE2BZ> But that one was 12 mW ;-)
[13:42] <PE2BZ> Atm receiving weathersonde ¨behind¨ birmingham, 500 km distance, 6700 m altitude. Tropo assumed
[13:42] <PE2BZ> 404.200
[13:43] <craag> radio conditions are widely reported to be 'excellent' across the uk at the moment
[13:45] <PE2BZ> Can´t disagree that :-)
[13:46] <cm13g09> craag: I was receiving French radio in Bracknell on Tuesday!
[13:47] <craag> how terrible for you cm13g09
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[13:50] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N2050268 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N2050268
[13:53] <PE2BZ> The weathersonde from Ekofisk oil platform had a last fix at 348 m 1 minute ago, Above the norhtsea, 525 km distance.
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[14:19] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_J4710146 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_J4710146
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[14:36] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P0440576 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P0440576
[14:41] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD0ZTV-2 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD0ZTV-2
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[15:35] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03W7BLO-1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W7BLO-1
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[15:50] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03W7BLO-2 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W7BLO-2
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[17:11] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KC9LHW-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KC9LHW-11
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[17:25] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N2140359 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N2140359
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[17:30] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03MedicDivone_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=MedicDivone_chase
[17:31] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03MedicDivine_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=MedicDivine_chase
[17:33] <FU> 6b36593d5a0d39ee31c31b09c480d0ee
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[17:38] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4430401 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4430401
[17:53] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KG5JUT-2 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KG5JUT-2
[17:58] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KG5JUT-3 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KG5JUT-3
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[21:01] <chris_99> is that an md5 hash
[21:02] <Mike-SA6BSS> !flights
[21:02] <SpacenearUS> 03Mike-SA6BSS: There are no flights currently :(
[21:03] <mfa298> a flightdoc id they then posted in #habhub
[21:04] <chris_99> ahh
[21:04] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 031fadp3f24el154567_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=1fadp3f24el154567_chase
[21:04] <chris_99> does anyone use the ublox m8n out of interest
[21:20] <vaizki> lots of people here
[21:22] <vaizki> oops.. too small font.... M8N not sure.. M8Q yes.. is there a difference except no backup battery?
[21:24] <Mike-SA6BSS> volyage?
[21:24] <Mike-SA6BSS> voltage?
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[21:25] <chris_99> https://www.u-blox.com/en/product/neo-m8-series says the n has flash
[21:25] <chris_99> apparently
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[21:26] <Mike-SA6BSS> yep, NEO-M8N includes SPI flash memory
[21:27] <Mike-SA6BSS> so you can for example set flight mode and store that in flash insted in code running the tracker
[21:28] <chris_99> oh neat. i was looking for some info on the F9 recently, but i'm assuming that's going to be insanely expensive
[21:30] <vaizki> I'm assuming the flash can also store ephemeris and almanac data for a warm start even after power outage?
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[23:06] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3530057 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3530057
[23:16] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4250377 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4250377
[23:17] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4020557 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4020557
[23:18] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4020246 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4020246
[23:18] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3920735 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3920735
[23:20] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N2430167 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N2430167
[23:22] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4720595 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4720595
[23:24] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P0640435 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P0640435
[23:36] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_M5033403 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_M5033403
[23:36] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3710947 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3710947
[23:37] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N2140360 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N2140360
[23:39] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4430402 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4430402
[23:40] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P0430598 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P0430598
[23:55] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N2150615 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N2150615
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