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[00:22] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N2140892 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N2140892
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[00:32] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03JM8LMF-7 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=JM8LMF-7
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[01:05] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_M4443014 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_M4443014
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[03:49] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Kf5lfq_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Kf5lfq_chase
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[04:04] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_DFM09-640070 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_DFM09-640070
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[04:55] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P1030538 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P1030538
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[05:34] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P1730059 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P1730059
[05:38] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P2240245 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P2240245
[06:08] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4420503 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4420503
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[06:45] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SAFlyerY4L after 0319 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SAFlyerY4L
[06:46] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SAFlyerY4R after 0319 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SAFlyerY4R
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[07:21] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P2241067 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P2241067
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[08:26] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SAFlyer1_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SAFlyer1_chase
[08:39] <trickv> Now I want a Bakewell pudding.
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[08:53] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03U3B-21 after 0314 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=U3B-21
[08:57] <g4ufs> lost RTTY telemetry
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[09:00] <g4ufs> IS LORA still working for SAFlyer?
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[09:01] <g8fjg> I lost lora same time rtty went to carrier
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[09:01] <g4ufs> oh dear
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[09:10] <marsballoon> morning all, is this where I can get a flight doc approval? MARS2018
[09:11] <Darkside> you need to post the flight document ID
[09:11] <Darkside> that needs to be posted into #habhub
[09:11] <marsballoon> ah thanks Darkside
[09:14] <nmcc> My flight, SAFlyers, has gone quiet - not batteries, they were Lithium, last box temp was 15C, both RTTY & LoRa have gone. Any ideas much appreciated
[09:17] <Darkside> no carrier?
[09:17] <Darkside> on the RTTY signal i mean
[09:17] <nmcc> Nope
[09:18] <g8fjg> carrier still there
[09:18] <Darkside> welp
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[09:18] <Darkside> that means power is still OK
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[09:20] <Darkside> daveake: ^
[09:20] <PB0AHX-Herman> !flights
[09:20] <SpacenearUS> 03PB0AHX-Herman: Current flights: 03SAFlyers Y4 2018 10(0c60)
[09:20] <PB0AHX-Herman> !payload 0c60
[09:20] <SpacenearUS> 03PB0AHX-Herman: Payload 03SAFlyers18Y4Lv7 10(0c60) 03$$SAFlyerY4L - no transmissions
[09:20] <SpacenearUS> 03PB0AHX-Herman: Payload 03SAFlyers18Y4Rv7 10(0c60) 03$$SAFlyerY4R - 03PIE with sensors 300 baud - 03434.2 MHz USB 03RTTY 300/600Hz ASCII-8 none 2
[09:21] <daveake> Odd. I ran a test with a removed SD card and it kept running happily for many hours.
[09:22] <nmcc> g8fjg - apologies for the ignorance, if the carrier is still there, are you getting any data?
[09:22] <daveake> If the tracker program crashes (and I've not managed to get it to do that) it gets restarted anyway
[09:22] <g8fjg> no
[09:23] <nmcc> daveake, so if the SD card comes out, it still sends data?
[09:23] <daveake> yup
[09:24] <daveake> Obviously SSDV would stop but tracking still keeps going
[09:25] <nmcc> Understood - everything just stopped that was literally working
[09:25] <nmcc> As you can see on the tracker, multiple receivers all stopped at once
[09:26] <nmcc> I'm guessing LoRa would cease if the CPU isn't running but the Radiometrix would carry on with a carrier
[09:26] <daveake> Yes
[09:26] <nmcc> This is a previously flown rig soak tested over the last few days.
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[09:27] <Darkside> yo RocketBoy
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[09:28] <RocketBoy> yo - thought id see how ha was doing these days
[09:28] <RocketBoy> still plenty of folk i see
[09:28] <Darkside> yep
[09:28] <Darkside> RocketBoy: have you heard about the GST bullshit when shipping to australia?
[09:29] <g8fjg> nmcc ...the fact it stopped at 16k mtrs have anything to do with it?..it was an abrupt halt
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[09:32] <RocketBoy> GST - tax - has there been a change?
[09:33] <Darkside> yep.
[09:33] <Darkside> as Upu about it
[09:33] <Darkside> ask*
[09:33] <RocketBoy> Darkside I know that there was a pretty high bar for tax when shipping to aus
[09:34] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P1730056 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P1730056
[09:34] <Darkside> RocketBoy: thats changed now
[09:34] <Darkside> well, as of July 1st
[09:35] <RocketBoy> in the uk you pay import and 20% VAT over anthing over £18
[09:36] <Darkside> yeah theres now going to be import tax for all purchases
[09:36] <RocketBoy> and the courier collect the tax and charge you about £10 to relieve you of your money
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[09:36] <Darkside> problem int his case is im not sure who collects the money
[09:36] <Darkside> or where it goes to
[09:36] <RocketBoy> what not even a minimum?
[09:37] <Darkside> there may be one
[09:37] <Darkside> im not sure waht it is
[09:39] <RocketBoy> gov probably got fed up with all those cheap chinese imports
[09:39] <Darkside> yep
[09:40] <Darkside> im just hoping it doesnt stop sellers like yourself selling into australia
[09:40] <Darkside> because that would make me sad
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[09:42] <RocketBoy> well perhaps there needs to be a randomaerospace_south importing in bulk and selling from aus
[09:42] <Darkside> perhaps. but i already have a full-time job...
[09:43] <RocketBoy> strangely Im selling more to China and Japan these days
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[09:43] <RocketBoy> Japanese balloons to china and visa versa
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[09:44] <RocketBoy> (but I have also sold chinese balloons back to china)
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[09:44] <nmcc> Lost mobile data
[09:45] <nmcc> g8fjg, can you give me a bearing at all please
[09:48] <g8fjg> im 200km away best effort is 345deg ..sort of over Lincon
[09:48] <g8fjg> looks from the signal sill going up
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[10:00] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03MARS2018 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=MARS2018
[10:01] <g8fjg> how wrong can I be....signal has just faded out for me,,which at 200km range is les than 3km altitude...or its just "stopped"
[10:03] <nmcc> Predictor says it will have landed by now
[10:04] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P0410456 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P0410456
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[10:05] <g8fjg> I must have been out of shack when it burst,,,i never heard the doppler on the signal at burst
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[10:06] <g8fjg> afk for a while
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[10:10] <nmcc> I've lost signal
[10:14] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03HORUSLORA1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HORUSLORA1
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[10:23] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRFW-6 after 0313 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-6
[10:26] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KC0RPS-11 after 0313 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KC0RPS-11
[10:35] <RocketBoy> darkside: "Overseas retailers who sell goods to Australian consumers and make more than AUD $75,000 per year will be required to register and impose GST." Ha Ha - good luck on trying to impose regulations on companies outside your own legal area.
[10:35] <Darkside> yeah i dont get it
[10:35] <Darkside> and im also not sure what happens for the buyer when a parcel enters the country
[10:36] <Darkside> it hasnt been clear as to if australia post collects it
[10:36] <Darkside> or a courier
[10:36] <Mike-SA6BSS> we have the same here in SWE since 1 of March, 25% vat and 7$ for hadling the goods
[10:37] <Mike-SA6BSS> they reached out to aliexpress, ebay all other to make the tax include in purchase, so far only www.wish.com DOES THIS
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[10:38] <Mike-SA6BSS> probelm is for aliexpress sweden is like a medium size city in china so the dont care :/
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[11:21] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4020398 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4020398
[11:22] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3710053 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3710053
[11:22] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3740582 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3740582
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[11:49] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03MARS_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=MARS_chase
[11:50] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P0530193 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P0530193
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[12:07] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KC1DFW-6 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KC1DFW-6
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[12:47] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4430356 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4430356
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[13:51] <Ian_> In the UK it used to be £8 for the handling charge, but has probably gone up in the ineterim. That was a lot of cash when you consider that the tax migh just be £1
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[13:53] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03C4TS after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=C4TS
[13:57] <russss> I think it's still £8 for Parcel Force but other couriers charge more
[14:05] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P0410463 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P0410463
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[15:11] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03CALLSIGN123_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CALLSIGN123_chase
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[15:34] <Habby> Hi all! SSDV question. With LoRa, is 1028w x 768h a decent setting for High Altitude images, or too large?
[15:35] <PE2BZ> I guess you should run a test, what time does it take to send such an image in that resolution in SSDV mode 1
[15:36] <PE2BZ> Lower resolution (800 * 600) gives much more different images during flight time.
[15:36] <Habby> Will test early tomorrow then. Had issues with camera port on Pi0 today so most of day messing around trying to fix that..
[15:37] <Habby> Thanks, PE2BZ. Good shout.
[15:38] <Habby> Any thoughts on hot gluing electronics? I really want to got glue the PiCam cable in place but worried about damaging things...
[15:38] <Habby> *hot glue
[15:42] <daveake> too large - go for 800x600 ish
[15:45] <Habby> Thanks both :)
[15:46] <PE2BZ> I run 1280 * 1024 when enough receivers available and in hi speed ssdv mode
[15:49] <daveake> Smaller is generally better as you get more images. I like to aim for 5 minutes per image. you can test this before flight. Remember that up high the images have a lot of black, which compresses well, so those images will take approx half the time to transmit.
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[15:54] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KE0OTF-13 after 0312 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KE0OTF-13
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[16:24] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DUCK_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DUCK_chase
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[17:07] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD2KPZ-12 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD2KPZ-12
[17:07] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD2KPZ-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD2KPZ-11
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[17:52] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4530359 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4530359
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[18:01] <PE2BZ> mars
[18:02] <PE2BZ> never mind... wrong console ;-)
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[19:01] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P0430121 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P0430121
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[20:22] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_M2353428 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_M2353428
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[20:31] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KE0OTF-12_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KE0OTF-12_chase
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[20:39] <spav33> dear all, just attempting to set up genpayload and a little stuck on Parser configuration and the 'example telemetry string'... what would the best way of getting this info. Apologies is this is a silly question.
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[21:11] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRFW-6 after 039 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-6
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[21:37] <Mike-SA6BSS> spav33: thats the string you recwive usuly with dl-fldigi
[21:38] <Mike-SA6BSS> ,like this https://hab.uggy.org/data/images/capture-dl-fldigi_-_uggy-playback.png
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[23:03] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KG5IFR after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KG5IFR
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[23:17] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4010647 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4010647
[23:18] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3740013 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3740013
[23:20] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3710102 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3710102
[23:21] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P0520796 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P0520796
[23:49] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P0640027 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P0640027
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