highaltitude.log.20180611

[00:00] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N2040258 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N2040258
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[00:24] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRF-6 after 036 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRF-6
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[00:30] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N2530333 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N2530333
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[00:40] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N2430547 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N2430547
[00:49] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N2050844 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N2050844
[00:49] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P0530141 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P0530141
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[04:55] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P1030469 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P1030469
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[05:02] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N2250328 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N2250328
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[05:32] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P0850386 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P0850386
[05:33] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P0420132 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P0420132
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[05:43] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N2050845 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N2050845
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[06:12] <fsphil> another slow sonde descent last night. maybe it's not a bad batch of balloons, maybe they're doing something different
[06:13] <Mike-SA6BSS|3> thay could have starting using parachutes like they did over here last year
[06:34] <fsphil> they always had parachutes. I wonder if the new batch are bigger
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[06:41] <vaizki> I finally got my island remote HF station set up with all the wifi links and VPNs etc and everything running over UDP .. now I have to learn to use a HF righ :)
[06:42] <vaizki> and make a better antenna and and..
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[06:49] <Mike-SA6BSS|3> what radio do ypu use? building a hf remote site is something of dream for moste hams, and on an island with water around you going to get real god performance
[06:50] <Mike-SA6BSS|3> looking at http://wspr.pe1itr.com/ SM0EPX/RX2 with hid radio on a iland outside Stockholm always tops out on 30m wspr challange
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[06:50] <Mike-SA6BSS|3> he is probably not thta far away from you
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[07:08] <vaizki> TS-480SAT
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[07:09] <vaizki> with remoterig boxes and Teltonika RUT950 for LTE uplink
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[07:11] <vaizki> the TS-480SAT is nice because I can use the radio's own front panel just like locally when remote
[07:11] <vaizki> and I happen to have two front panels (bought the second one for 30 eur)
[07:17] <Mike-SA6BSS|3> I know that radio, was looking in to it when I was upgrading from my ts570 but I got the more universal ts2000
[07:18] <vaizki> well it was offered for 500e barely used so I pounced on it.. even without realizing how nice it is for remote work
[07:20] <Mike-SA6BSS|3> :) there is a similar version of the ts2000 as well, but mostly I like to rx remotley so I looking at setting up a wideband sdr with LTE connecton , have resonbale noise levels at my house but I guess I have about 5-10 db over noise floor, reading a power outage on 20 m
[07:21] <Mike-SA6BSS|3> good luck on the build development!
[07:22] <vaizki> but conditions should be pretty good.. the radio is in a small log cabin where the only electrical equipment plugged in is the 12V power supply which runs the radio, remoterig and LTE
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[07:47] <fsphil> that sounds nice
[07:55] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N2220509 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N2220509
[08:21] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03ALMIGHTYGOD_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ALMIGHTYGOD_chase
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[09:18] <StevieP> Hi all, thanks for the help tracking the Worksop College flight yesterday. The pupils really enjoyed tracking it and learning about the radio transmissions and loved that it was tracked from around Europe! We managed to get close enough to see it land! A first for me on my 9th HAB flight. Recovery was nice and easy, except the last 50m where we had to leave the pupils at the gate and battle 25 very animated young cows. No inci
[09:19] <StevieP> Is there a protocol for adding LoRa tracking details to flight? It would be great to have a standardised way of adding this to payload documents?
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[09:30] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P0420131 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P0420131
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[10:56] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P1030539 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P1030539
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[11:21] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3710672 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3710672
[11:21] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3930462 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3930462
[11:23] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3620678 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3620678
[11:27] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3710041 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3710041
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[11:31] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3820410 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3820410
[11:33] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_L4940350 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_L4940350
[11:41] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RSIST after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RSIST
[11:50] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03G7NSJ_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=G7NSJ_chase
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[12:16] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N2050846 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N2050846
[12:27] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3710107 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3710107
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[12:39] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3820257 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3820257
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[12:46] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N2110158 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N2110158
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[12:50] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N4250532 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N4250532
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[14:25] <PE2BZ> StevieP nice to hear that it was recovered and noticed when landing ! There is no LoRa protocol for the gateway at this moment, could be a good idea to start some ¨discussion¨ on the ukhas group ?
[14:27] <craag> Well it's known what needs doing, just somebody needs to write the extra code for habitat. It's all on github ;)
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[14:54] <habby_> daveake, I'm having trouble disabling the software serial on the Zero W lightweight tracker I've built following your tutorial. I am therefore getting SysRq messages that are killing everything. Please can you help?
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[15:06] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KG5IFR after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KG5IFR
[15:08] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03TST - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=TST
[15:14] <habby> daveake OK, I didnt disable software serial. Sorted. But nothing showing on the gateway...?
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[15:32] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03C4TS - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=C4TS
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[15:41] <Spiruel> Hi everyone - please may someone point me to instructions on how to get a balloon showing on the habhub tracker? We are hoping to launch a balloon (communicating via iridium) tomorrow.
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[15:52] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03U3B-21 after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=U3B-21
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[15:55] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HIRFW-6 after 0312 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HIRFW-6
[15:55] <rd55a> Quick question -- Why was the RFM98 chosen for flights instead of the RFM96?
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[15:59] <rd55a> for LoRa*
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[16:52] <Mike-SA6BSS|3> rd55a: on what flight? my thoughts always been that RFM96W was the most common one as many have antennas covering this freq
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[17:05] <rd55a> Mike-SA6BSS|3 I was looking at PITS for reference. Both the 98 and 96 cover the same frequency (70cm), they're very similar
[17:05] <rd55a> Mike-SA6BSS|3
[17:05] <rd55a> I was looking at PITS for reference. Both the 98 and 96 cover the same frequency (70cm), they're very similar
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[17:16] <Mike-SA6BSS> are you sure pits use rfm98?
[17:17] <Mike-SA6BSS> stil quite a diference in antenna, both are 70cm but the common ham radio antenna loose alot of tuning beyond 450Mhz
[17:18] <Mike-SA6BSS> so the obvius shoise is rfm96
[17:20] <rd55a> Yeah I'm pretty sure
[17:22] <PE2BZ> I allways use RFM98 on the lora and rtty arduino and Pi trackers. They are ¨best available¨
[17:23] <Mike-SA6BSS> ok, easiest to get hold of on ebay?
[17:24] <rd55a> PE2BZ How are they better than the 96s? I recall we discussed the differences a few days ago but I'm struggling to see how they actually translate to performance
[17:25] <PE2BZ> Sorry, not meaning they are better, they are the most easy to become on ebay and the dutch store
[17:25] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N2050847 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N2050847
[17:26] <Mike-SA6BSS> hmm, on the datacheet it says rfm98 as 470 but on ebay they are sold as Rfm98w-433s2 HopeRF 433mhz Lora Radio
[17:26] <PE2BZ> My first pits board had the rfm98w module, so I ordered one more to receive 2 channels.
[17:26] <PE2BZ> The lora module is usable for 470 MHz, however the bandpass on the pcb is optimized for 433 MHz
[17:27] <rd55a> Ahhh
[17:27] <PE2BZ> Then I blew up the 2 modules with my 50 Watt transmitter on 1 meter distance on 70 cm
[17:27] <rd55a> Hahahahaha
[17:27] <PE2BZ> Then I ordered a 10 pack of the rfm98w
[17:28] <PE2BZ> and now, I have added 2 BAT85 / 1n4148 diodes antiparallel to the receiving lora modules and ¨the other pits board¨ has no power and no antenna connected by default
[17:30] <PE2BZ> For all my arduino trackers and for the Pi Zero with the camera I use the 98w-433 and they do (all) transmit from 140 to 920 MHz with reduced RSSI / SNR
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[17:34] <rd55a> I see
[17:34] <rd55a> Good to know
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[17:52] <rd55a> More noob questions -- In the PITS LoRa script (https://github.com/PiInTheSky/pits/blob/master/tracker/lora.c), why are there 2 LoRa channels? Does that represent the two potential LoRa boards, or does 1 board have 2 channels?
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[17:53] <PE2BZ> the pits board for the standard Pi has space for 2 lora modules, CE0 and CE1 corresponding with these settings. The Pi Zero board fits one module, selectable for CE0 or CE1 and allows stacking 2 boards, appearing as CE0 and CE1
[17:54] <rd55a> Gotcha. So when the PITS script references Channel, is it referencing the ability to use either of two boards?
[17:54] <PE2BZ> For RX I use 2 modules. For TX I only use one module. I have both the omnidirectional and the 70 cm yagi attached to 2 RX modules
[17:54] <rd55a> RX == ground station?
[17:55] <PE2BZ> Either of two rfm modules
[17:55] <PE2BZ> indeed, ground station
[17:55] <rd55a> Understood
[17:55] <rd55a> But just to 100% make sure I'm understanding this, LoRa channel == different LoRa board, yes?
[17:55] <rd55a> Or chip, to be more exact*
[17:55] <PE2BZ> 100 %
[17:56] <rd55a> Awesome. Thank you so much
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[19:03] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_M1453661 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_M1453661
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[20:23] <cm13g09> mfa298: everything OK over there?
[20:24] <mfa298> sorting out my irssi config after a reboot. Seems the /save didn't keep the correct set of channels in the right places (or I forgot to /save)
[20:25] <cm13g09> ah lol
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[22:41] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SP5YAM-1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP5YAM-1
[22:42] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SP5YAM-2 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP5YAM-2
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[23:03] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SH06 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SH06
[23:07] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3620713 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3620713
[23:19] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3710676 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3710676
[23:19] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N2050849 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N2050849
[23:19] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P0610209 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P0610209
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[23:20] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3710052 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3710052
[23:21] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N2140866 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N2140866
[23:26] <rd55a> Hello all, another question. I'm trying to figure out everything in the PITS script and I wanted to ask what the variables "DIO0" and "DIO1" mean in regards to LoRa
[23:26] <rd55a> First declared here: https://github.com/PiInTheSky/pits/blob/master/tracker/misc.h
[23:26] <rd55a> And then used here: https://github.com/PiInTheSky/pits/blob/master/tracker/lora.c
[23:26] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_DFM09-17031505 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_DFM09-17031505
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[23:40] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_N3820256 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_N3820256
[23:41] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RSIST after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RSIST
[23:43] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P0310724 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P0310724
[23:46] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RS_P0910018 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RS_P0910018
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